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EarlG ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:26 PM Original message |
Senate rejects effort to pass minimum wage bill without additional tax cuts |
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E-Z-B (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. That must mean a dem crossed party lines? |
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EarlG ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Edited |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I think they needed |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. that would mean the bastards fillibustered the min wage bill. |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Bingo |
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Springster (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
109. That was only proposed for the "Executive Calendar", never for the |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. No. 48 Dems voting aye, 49 Pukes voting no. Where were the other 2 dems? |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I think there's 49 Democratic Senators |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
84. Edit self delete |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
120. This was the cloture vote. If Sanders and Lieberman voted with |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
121. Yes, and with Lieberman and Sanders we got 48 votes. Who did not |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. . |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Republicans filibustered it. 60 required. (nt) |
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Casablanca (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Hmm, no "nuclear option" hanging over _their_ heads, I see. |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
80. The "nuclear" option . . . |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. There's two independents... |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
118. All Dems voted yes, Lieberman is independent and voted yes, 4 repubs voted yes |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. Dems are missing Sen. from SD |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. Johnson is in the hospital. I'm not sure where Carper is |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
102. Carper is a big time DLCer who strongly supported Lieberman over the Democrat. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. No, it means that not enough Repubs (or none) ... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. This was the vote against cloture. n/t |
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No DUplicitous DUpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm sick of this crap. I hope their is a Hell, cause that's where they are going. |
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DemKR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tax cuts while in a deficit (Thank Max Baucus) |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Welcome to DU |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
68. I want to see the tax increases that will support George's waste. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. i really want to see the roll call on that one. it's not available yet |
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Taoschick (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Here you go... |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. thank you. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Snowe, Specter, & Warner. |
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PaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Collins and Coleman also voted yes |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
61. Both up for re-election in '08 n/t |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #61 |
124. Coleman |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Well, Voinovich (OH-R) is up next year. |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
79. He isn't up until '10 |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #79 |
119. dammit |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
57. Hagel voted no |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
60. The two indys voted with the dems, both Leibermann and Sanders. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Carper is from Delaware - he sat out on this vote |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:57 AM Response to Reply #71 |
103. Carper should be challenged in his next primary. He's a big DLCer. (nt) |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #103 |
130. Agree that he sucks |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. 2010 is a good year for that since it will be a midterm election and there won't be a Presidental |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
76. Thanks. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. the vote wasn't *too* partisan |
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Randy Ranger (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
82. I see McCain hasn't changed. Still an ass. N/T |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
99. Why the fuck is lieberman listed as an "ID"? |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:21 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. ID = Independant Democrat |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
10. Very small Reuters article:US Senate Republicans block minimum wage hike |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yeah, sure... but first, define "small business". n/t |
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aggiesal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. McFranchise of course. n/t |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. Any one with 500 or less employees is considered a small business. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
87. You're right, 500 is too large. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #87 |
116. there's nothing small about a business with 500 employees on its payroll. |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #116 |
123. Any company with 500 employees... |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. the democrats need to get all in the press and scream how the |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM Original message |
I know my two senators voted against it w/o even seeing a roll call |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. 54-43. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. Associated Press: Minimum wage bill stalls in the Senate |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
14. What the hell... |
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OregonBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
18. Where do we get the roll call? |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Here |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. AP: Tax breaks sidetrack minimum wage bill |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. What a crock! |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Yes it is a crock! |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
88. I've heard many bad things about Golden Coral. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. As a small biz owner, wages I pay are already deductible, if I pay |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
96. When the good buddies of WalMart start talking about concern for small businesses, do you |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
23. Too bad the minimum wage isn't tied to congressional pay raises |
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klook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
132. Best idea I've heard all day. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
24. Surprise not |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
26. I understand there are quite a few GOP Senate seats up for re-election in '08 |
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hashibabba (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. Both of my senators voted yes. Even that repuke, John Warner. |
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ItsTheMediaStupid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Warner is looking over his shoulder, with Allen losing |
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Springster (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
110. Warner has always been his own man - I remember when he opposed |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
29. If Republicans hope to win their next elections, they really need to rethink |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. That was my first thought. The bullshit about how great the |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. And there's more of us than them. nt |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. I wonder if this presages all the votes to come on the Democratic agenda? |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
40. What did Joey lieberman vote? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. With the Democrats, of course! |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
94. SURPRISINGLY with the Democrats, not "of course".. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #94 |
112. He votes with the Demcorats more often than not |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
41. It'll pass... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
44. Fine. Now Play Hardball. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. What's wrong with giving small business owners tax relief if it means passing a veto proof bill |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. It then has to be offset by revenue from somewhere else |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Coorrect. n/t |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
134. What exactly is wrong with that you ask? |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
45. Time to declare full-on war. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. We don't have absolute power in the Senate. We have to accept compromise there |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. No, there are options available to us. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 09:13 AM Original message |
Really? What options are those? |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
133. We give 'em hell |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
115. Double post |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. No we don't. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. Yeah, actually, we do. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Not much meaningful or controversial legislation made it throught the Senate |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
64. I Hate Them! |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
89. Spoken like a pre-2006 Republican. n/t |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. That's right. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #95 |
129. Spoken like a pre-2006 Republican. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
97. Without 60 solid votes, we have a guaranteed deadlock |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
47. I'm just shocked that WE stuck together! Hooray for us! |
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Red1 (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
48. ? |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'm not entirely opposed to providing tax relief to small businesses |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Something gives me the impression that the tax breaks that the republicans |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yep |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Their small business never means small businesses |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. I believe they classify "Small business" |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
62. Given that a minimum wage increase is widely popular among voters |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
67. So what now? Is there still a way we can get the min. wage increased? |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. The way to get an increase in the minimum wage... |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
73. Hmmm looks like some good ammo |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
78. congress critter pay needs to be reduced to minimum wage to set fire to their butts |
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blondie58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
81. I am so disappointed |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
83. Brand them with the tag: Republican OBSTRUCTIONISTS |
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Maryland Liberal (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. I'm a little confused |
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HappyWeasel (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Agreed. They are more like workers than WALMART!! |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #86 |
108. It has to do with the rider |
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classysassy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
90. Must |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
92. Senate GOP will be one big fillibuster from here one out. Will lose seats in 2008. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-24-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Or perhaps, the Senate GOP will be one big fillibuster |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #93 |
104. You guys said the exact same thing. (nt) |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. my bad - misread |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #92 |
107. oops |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #92 |
122. Why didn't Dems do more of this when they were the minority? |
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Jesterstear (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
98. What's wrong with small business tax relief? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Nothing is wrong with small business tax relief, but |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #98 |
127. How many employees do you have? |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 05:20 AM Response to Original message |
100. Want to raise the minimum wage? Forget about it.......... |
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Springster (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:59 AM Response to Reply #100 |
111. Maximum wage? Just look at actors & jocks. Then compare what |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-26-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #111 |
135. My concern is CEO's that make more in one day than |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
105. This bill needs to be re-introduced and made into a national debate |
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dapper (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
114. Getting back to what "small business" means. |
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PunkPop (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
117. If your business doesn't make enough money to pay a decent wage |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
125. Lets remember every rethug that voted NO |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-25-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
126. this is sickening |
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