President Bush to hold news conference at 11:15am Eastern time

[leftward]

from TV news

[qanda]

1. Well, there goes the idea of the "gloat-free zone"

eom

[mmm]

3. Why not gloat when you have absolutely nothing to gloat about

The US had no right to capture Saddam;
has no right bringing him to the world court.
His capture will do nothing to quell the violence in Iraq
and will have no effect whatever on the war on 'terrorism'
(a fiction if ever there was one).

[Rainbowreflect]

5. Of couse we had the right to capture Saddam.

We brought him into power & we can take him out again.
:-)

[aquart]

16. The US giveth and the US taketh away?

Golly, we're like God.

[Frances]

2. Is he holding the news conference

hoping to get more bounce out of Saddam?

40 years ago, my father told me a joke about a politician who came to a voter's house asking for his vote. The politician listed the things he had done for the voter. The voter looked at the politician and said, "I know you did those things. But what have you done for me lately?"

I think Bush held off till now really going after Saddam to get more political benefit. I expect the trial to take place and then an execution in late October. It's all about politics.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. Re: Bush and the Saddam capture story...

Cows can empty out too, Shrub...

[peekaloo]

6. I'll bet the "media" gives him a standing ovation

Our Savior!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hawkeye-X]

7. Prediction: *'s new conference

will only incite and anger the insurgents in Iraq and increase the casualities in Iraq for Americans.

Hawkeye-X

[Skittles]

47. you are correct, Hawkeye

just like after the Sept 11 attacks, Bush Inc will piss away and goodwill and endanger our troops even more. He is an incompetent BOOB.

[Paulie]

8. This will be a good test

for the "Pie Hole Effect", whenever * has a conference, the market dives. :eek:

[Khephra]

9. on now

[hlthe2b]

10. Can you say: "milking it for all it is worth?" ..........

I guess Rove saw the minimal bounce overnight..

[Poll_Blind]

11. What does Saddam have to do with "healthy forests", George?

And like 2 minutes into it, Bush changes it into a campaign speech. I'm suprised he waited that long.

[peekaloo]

12. "I got some ideas"

:eyes:

[SOS]

104. Makes you wonder

where he puts 'em!

[Khephra]

13. Man, he's not thrilled to be there today, is he?

It's like Rove told him to come out and act exactly the opposite of what he did during the "Mission Accomplished" day.

[stevedeshazer]

14. The smirk is on now n/t

[KoKo]

15. It's "Quiet, Thoughtful Chimp Today...although he says He won't say

what "HE" thinks ought to happen to Saddam, because it's up to the Iraqi people, but he repeated "...I won't say what I think should happen to this brutal dictator who gassed and tortured his own people."

Now he's rambling on about "Iraq transforming the region in a positive way (straight PNAC crap).

Now Bush says "Good Riddance to Mr. Saddam....you dug your hole and you crawled in it.." He kept snuffing his Chimp snarf. Now saying he doesn't trust Saddam and he isn't going to change his ways and the Iraqi system to work so all the atrocities come out."

[KoKo]

17. Chimp saying over 60 Nations participating in Iraq. Now he says France

& German. He says it's in our interest to work with them and going on praising Germany and saying they had a "disagreement" about Iraq. He says they differed on how to accomplish things after 9/11.

Now he says Baker going to encourage them to help with debt relief. Now he wants the French and Germans to work on Iran. He's threatening Iran but saying they were with him.

[KoKo]

25. He's saying that we have deficit because of Recession and War and we

will grow out of it with plans laid out by Bolton. He's stumbling over his words about his "Tax Relief." He says he's holding the line on spending, and working on it with congress.

[KoKo]

28. Reporter saying no WMD found so was your plan Democratization in

Iraq. He stumbles while he thinks up a lie to tell. He does his snarky laugh and says "you got me" to reporter. He's now saying it was 9/11 that changed it and he began to "access threats." He's kind of leading that he's admitting that PNAC decided it not WMD! He's going on about "Evil Saddam" again, defiant, deceiver, murdered his on people, ignored UN resolutions and he says UN agreed Saddam was a threat. He's backtraking on WMD, mentioning David Kay's inspections trying to trump up that Saddam had something.

[KoKo]

45. Did you see his expression when asked about his resposibility for 9/11?

He refused to answer it. When reporter mentioned Dean's comment about Bush and 9/11. It was creepy! I think he's covering up.

[Carni]

106. Yeah, I saw it...

And he could barely stammer out a reply, looked down...stammered some more and then eventually dismissed it as ridiculous (or whatever)
I thought for a minute that he was going to try to defend himself about knowing!

[lightbulb]

107. Here's a link to that defining moment

http://images.indymedia.org/imc/washingtondc/media/video/6/9_11laugh.mpg

His expressions and body language speak volumes.

[Thor_MN]

52. Stumbling over his words? He sounds like Porky Pig

aBeaBeaBe, that's all folks!!!

[Whoa_Nelly]

18. Bush doesn't believe Saddam will tell the truth

So much for any credibility to SH stating there were no WMD...Georgie has set the stage for disbelief on that "evildoer" not being believed for anything he will say, and for the BushCo Regime to appear credible. Whatever happens to SH after today will all go to support the rethefting of the WH. :grr:

[stevedeshazer]

19. "Lesson of 9/11"

Here we go again, linking with Saddam.

[southpaw72]

21. "my job is to protect the country, and uh................................"

how many times did he say that?

[Retrograde]

99. Not according to the Constitution

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Article II, Section 1

A silly difference some may say, Constitution vs country, but I happen to think if he defended the first the second would follow.

linda

[Timefortruth]

20. He is going on about Saddam/9/11 again.

What a pig. Would someone please ask him a question pertaining to homeland defense and the stressed National Guard? Or protection at the ports? Or stockpiles of antiviral medicines?

His lies aren’t anywhere nearly as bad as the fact that the “press” lets him get away with it

[dweller]

42. Did he just say

Saddam was given a clear choice by the UN and he (SH) considered the UN nothing more than a debating society?

:wtf:

dp

[Sideways]

48. Sorry He's Too Busy Talking About Rape Rooms And Partial Birth Abortion

:wtf: This is a farking campaign speech pure and simple. His fucking attempt to lure the freeper death crowd with his snide comment "I know how I would deal with Saddam, but hey it's up to the Iraqi people" was quite simply GROSS.

Pandering to the kill Saddam crowd and then acting coy and cutesy like what he didn't say was intentional. BARF.

Fucking disingenuous twit. If he had long hair he would be flipping it like some craven junior high school girl.

What a shitdustbucket. After that I stuck my ass to the TV and farted in his face then shut the fascist off.

[Cooley Hurd]

78. Mary, have I mentioned lately that...

...you're my hero? You do and say the things I can only dream of doing. :thumbsup:

And thank you for your many entries of words into the DU lexicon my favorite: Fuckwittage!

P.S. Are you still in the middle east? What was the reaction on the ground to Saddam's capture?

[Sideways]

86. Still Here In The ME And Most Thought This Was A BS PR Stunt

Nobody here takes Bush seriously. This isn't out of love for Saddam but out of loathing for "The Bush" as they are wont to call him.

Moving from Oman to the much more upscale digs of UAE (Abu Dhabi) next month. But I will still be calling it like I see where Bush is concerned. A great deal of Omanis now refer to Bush as the Fuckwittage after my 20 months here.

A tall attractive blonde with a potty mouth and a sincere conscience has won the hearts and minds of many here in the ME.

Thanks for the love and I :loveya: too.

[hlthe2b]

90. Good for you Mary T.... How's your arabic coming?

Perhaps you and JMach1 can get together in UAE?

[glitch]

88. Thanks for the first LOL of the day

Laughter keeps you young and healthy, so double thanks!

[KoKo]

22. Now he's into confrontational, quiet, thoughtful Chimp saying

PNAC talking points over and over and over and over. He's saying that Saddam is "through." People don't have to hold back their sentiments for living in a free society. He's now talking about Saddam being a murderer and torturer, and he ruled by fear. He says he will follow his objectives to make America more free. People won't agree with him, but he's going to keep making the decisions. He looks forward to making his case to the American people. He says Press is "jumping the gun" about the election. He takes his job seriously. He will politically debate at press conferences next year.

He says he doesn't bother with politics but he wants it to be a secure and better country.

[Cocoa]

27. that's where someone should ask about his fundraising

why let him get away with that obvious lie, that politics is something other people do.

He said he's got "a job to do" and it's pretty obvious his job is to stay in office, everything he does with our govt. is dedicted to that, including anything that happens in Iraq.

[SammyWinstonJack]

36. Can't stand to watch or listen to that smirking chimp

But from what I am reading in your post, it sounds like he is describing his rule over us. It takes a murderer and a ruler-by-fear to recognize another of such similar traits. Chimpy looking in the mirror while giving this speech?

[Junkdrawer]

23. Wow. I've never heard him more defensive and confused...

And that's saying something. In his moment of triumph???? :wtf:

[Cocoa]

35. very legalistic in his WMD answer

didn't make a whole lot of sense. Said he likes David Kay more than Hans Blix.

[Bossy Monkey]

24. 9/11, I'll protect America, blah blah blah

"My strategy: I will keep America more secure, more prosperous and a better country" Very close to a direct quote, when he got annoyed about reporters implying that his Iraqi "strategy" might be uh, electorally inspired.

Okee, I've had enough, back to cartoons.

[area51]

94. promises, promises

George W. Hoover said:

"My strategy: I will keep America ... more prosperous and a better country."

Being unemployed in this dying economy, I don't think I can stand much more of his "prosperity".

[karlschneider]

26. Jesus, what a babbling fucking moron...said "commiserate" twice,

mispronounced it both times and wrongly in place of "commensurate" and "stimulate."
:eyes:

[LEW]

31. Says he is looking forward to the debate

closer to election time.

Hey, duby, we're looking forward to the debate also!!!!!! Better be better prepared than you are today!

[Retrograde]

100. that means there won't be one!

Using the simple rule of thumb that this administration does the opposite of whatever it says, I took this to mean that there would be no debates next year - at least not ones with a Republican candidate.

C'mon, prove me wrong.

linda

[stevedeshazer]

29. Anyone else notice the flag placement?

The flag behind him with the presidential seal is juxtaposed with the camera angle such that the stars appear above his head, like a crown.

[Cooley Hurd]

33. In the cartoons, stars around one's head means...

...someone smacked him. Oh, if only...

[LEW]

38. Oh my goodness, the flag

they will never stop stooping to the lowest levels!!!

[webaacc]

30. Does anybody think he has made us any safer?

How has the war in Iraq made us safer?

[stevedeshazer]

39. That's exactly the question

that should be asked. Welcome, BTW.

[smirkymonkey]

32. Nothing short of an act of god can

stop this f**ktard now! I am really so disheartened - it's bullshit, but everyone is cheering * because he "got" one of the "evildoers".

Total insanity.

[aquart]

44. "Everyone"? Not according to the overnight polls.

Lotta no cheering going on.

[smirkymonkey]

103. Good to hear, but when I woke up to

NY1 this am, they were interviewing people on the street who were just awash in joy that our fearless leader had "captured" Saddam - they were gushing!! It made me absolutely sick.

Bush did nothing whatsoever to inspire such glowing commendations.

[Skip Intro]

34. There it is - the wmd queston

"um.. uh... 9*11 ....gathering threat...oceans protecting us no longer...bla bla bla..." nothing about his own wmd claims...

You were asked about wmd, moron. Where are the wmds you said justified your bloody invasion?

now saying saddam had "arms..." "programs" "in breach of resolutions" "lot of diplomacy before military action" "we tried all options"

and he babbles on...

[underpants]

41. "If David Kay had been the lead inspector..."

Implying that Kay would have found PROGRAMS that put Iraq into Material breach.

His description of Saddam does sound eerily similiar.

He is full on lying. They polished off the oldies but goodies.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

37. OMG

He can barely speak! Seems to take a major effort on his part just to get the words out. Can we please have a president who can formulate a sentence? I can't even listen to him,.

[0007]

93. What I gather, junior must think he's talking to Raygun

Raygun could probably make more sense than this fucking idiot! David Kay BS - must have got this from Blair.

[qanda]

40. This is AWFUL

I'm actually embarrassed for him.

[underpants]

43. W-much diplomacy in this White House, use of force is last resort

Total BS.

[KoKo]

46. Did you see the look on his face when asked about 9/11 Complicity?

unbelievable! And, his "non-answer."

[Cocoa]

50. I'm listening on the radio

he sounded suddenly drunk, slurring his words: "it'sh an abshurd inshinuation."

[Cooley Hurd]

55. His mispronunciations speak volumes about his sincerity...

...bet the guy's a shitty poker player, too.

[Sideways]

89. Ah Fuck This Asshat Isn't Equipped To Play "Go Fish"

Narcissist are so consumed with self they just aren't able to play. Playing takes some semblance of cooperation. Twitsters like Bush just throw their cards in the faces of others and declare they have won.

"Crazy Eights" does him in as well.

[KoKo]

59. He's getting tired now, and bored with the reporters, raving about Saddam

again. He tried to trash one of the reporters for asking "A trick question."

He's a disgrace, this guy. He doesn't know anything. He can barely speak unless it's to spew hate and use death and destruction.

[SOS]

105. From this months Harpers index:

Number of press conferences at which President Bush has referred to a question as "a trick": 11

[Sideways]

81. Coward Bully Victim Hey He's The Complete Narcissist

Coward: a person who runs from a fight, discussion whatever....Bully: gets defensive and hostile whatever when someone calls him on this behaviour....Victim: I wasn't trying to be an asshole, jerk, whatever and may shed some tears to prove his sincerity....=NARCISSIST.

Bush is a MALIGNANT, spiteful, injurious, baneful, pernicious, baleful, malevolent, venomous, maleficent, wicked, evil, malefic, sinister, virulent, bad, harmful, ominous, black-hearted
NARCISSIST. Barb musta been one hell of a fucking mother eh?

[webaacc]

49. Should the UN have enforced the resolutions?

?

[Cooley Hurd]

62. They tried! The weapons inspections took place...

...and, for the most part, they were effective - we have since found that out. 460 dead US servicemen later, we still haven't found WMD's.

Sounds like the UN did their job without one loss of life.

BTW - Welcome to DU :hi:

[ze_dscherman]

63. UN had enforced the resolutions

WMDs were destroyed, nuclear sites sealed. Nothing left of that stuff, nothing found even after many months of search and interrogation.

How can you enforce disarmament when these arms have already been destroyed? Iraq repeatedly told they had complied, inspectors found nothing, but it was the U.S. and their allies that insisted that Iraq had violated regulations and needed an invasion. Remember?

[Cooley Hurd]

53. That IS total BS!!!

This adminstration quashed every attempt by the State department to make things work thru the UN (including what they must've done to Colin Powell to make him do a 180 on the WMD issue - one minute, he's at odds with the PNACkers in regards to Iraq and weapons inspections, the next minute, he's their biggest whore).

They wanted war so bad, they could taste it!

[Snellius]

51. He's really beginning to lose it. Reminds of Nixon.

Nixon gradually encircled himself in`secrecy and absolutism until his fears and manias got the best of him. It's interesting the way he projects onto Saddam "He rules by fear."

[aquart]

60. And how many times can we hear "gassed his own people"?

When was that? TEN years ago?

What's he done lately, folks.

[Cooley Hurd]

65. And WHY did the Reagan adminstration remain silent about it?

WHY did it suddenly become an issue 14 years later?

[ze_dscherman]

87. Because it's not even evident the Iraqis did it

The situation in Halabja is not as clear as it is always stressed.

Halabja was between the front lines of the Iraq-Iran war, both sides using chemical weapons. People in Halabja most likely died from choking agents, the kind of stuff Iran used at that time. Iraq preferred mustard gas. However, looks like the Kurdish population in Halabja was not deemed worthy of consideration.

There are later reports on gassed Kurds and destroyed villages. But who cared what NATO member and US alley Turkey did to them in a civil war that cost about 30.000 lives? Big silence on this, too.

[KoKo]

83. Yes, Snellius, I had dejavu of Nixon. And even a little of Johnson about

Viet Nam in his last days before he dropped out of the Campaign. Too defensive and prone to attack the reporters.

[Snellius]

92. It's true about Johnson before he resigned

Weird about Bush. There is obviously a part of him that craves the attention and power, but I've always had this feeling -- and he's even hinted at it a few times -- that he hates being president and would rather be back in Texas playing Gameboy and watching baseball on TV. He's just the opposite of Clinton who loved being POTUS, especially the endless policy meetings and deal making. He has as little vision as his father. What does he come up with today for the economy?: easing malpractice insurance and tort reform. Wow. Big ideas?

In Bush's victory, there must be a certain emptiness too. Much of his personal mission in Iraq -- and perhaps a reason for seeking the presidency -- had to do with revenging his family honor. And now that motivation is gone.

[Habibi]

97. Interesting take!

If you're right, maybe W's lack of interest in being prez will help us a lot in the general election.

I can hope.

[pinto]

98. notice how often he said "I've gotta job to do, I've gotta a job to do"?

I think the guy's a little fried with it all...

[stevedeshazer]

54. More tax cuts

Trick question? Stretch?! What an ass.

[webaacc]

57. Where the tax cuts a bad thing?

?

[stevedeshazer]

66. I was referring to his response

to the tall gentleman asking the question.

[Cocoa]

69. not big enough

should have gotten rid of all taxes, then we'd be living in a Freeper paradise.

[aquart]

80. Yes, dear. The tax cuts were a very bad thing.

George gave away the wealth of the United States to already wealthy corporate contributors, the people who do NOT have sons or daughters in uniform or in Iraq.

That's why your property taxes are going up, all your state and federal fees are increasing, and the sales tax is thru the roof.

So Ken Lay can have another multimillion dollar mansion.

Basically, selfish won. The answer to "Am I my brother's keeper?" in the BushCo administration is "Absolutely not!"

[Sideways]

91. I Just Might (BARELY) Take You Seriously If You Could Spell Were

But then again I don't think I could ever take you seriously. Isn't "I Swear I Didn't Know She Was My Sister" on tonight?

[aquart]

56. "Strong dollar policy," my ass.

Either they're deliberately trashing the dollar or they're too dumb to be let out without a leash.

[Thor_MN]

61. If you have a strong dollar policy, mr. pResident, you are failing!!!

What an idiot.

[underpants]

72. Pro-Growth: Strong Dollar, less regulation, Tort reform

We tried to get tort reform through Congress this year but it was BLOCKED

[Khephra]

58. Wow!

He IS drunk. Everyone should check out his facial motions during this speech. He's really out of it.

[KoKo]

64. Do you think he's Drunk or just Mentally Challenged? He seems to

"get off" on Saddam and ramble on, but everything else he drifts off into some other place in his brain trying to figure out which lie he can tell.

[Khephra]

68. Drunk or on something

As a recovering alchy, I recognize his speech patterns...and even when you're drunk or stoned, you can often concenrate on things that interest you.

If this is what Bush looks and acts like when he's "winning" then he's in major trouble.

[KoKo]

76. Well I guess they had to drug him to get him out there, if he's drinking I

hope someone in the WH will leak soon. But, I guess since Cheney is the real P-Resident no one cares to check out the "bottles hidden in the bedroom" or the pills under the mattress.

Thanks for the insight Keph.

[KoKo]

70. If "Freedom is God's Gift to the World" why are Americans freedom's

being taken away by this administration. Did you hear him warn the press not to "take any silverware?" Good Grief! He thinks like a gangster. He projects his own problems and criminality onto others and only knows berating, and belittling people who aren't in his exhaulted Bush Empire.

He's a piece of work.

[Junkdrawer]

67. LOL. "Wow" was my reaction too. NPR just cut away.

Rove has to be looking for a hook. ;)

[Timefortruth]

71. He seems to become more drunk as the "press conference"

goes on, now what would cause that?

He went to bed early but complained about being awakened at 5:15? How much sleep does he need, he must have needed to sleep a big one off.

Chimp realized how bad he was starting to slurr because he ended the conference.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a free press to look into these things?

[underpants]

73. Did you know that W CUT discretionary spending?

That is non-military non-Homeland defense spending. See that (very specifically) is only grown by 6% in THIS administration and by 15% in the previous administration.

[BigBigBear]

74. Wow - sorry I'm missing this

Please, someone tell me there'll be a transcript. Sounds like buckets of Bushlexia fun.

[underpants]

75. “Freedom is the almighty God’s gift to everyone in this world”

Near the end when talking about talking to his Dad yesterday.

[Skip Intro]

77. Dan Rather: "...his strongest perfomance in a news conference.."

DR said most if not all reporters would call this the dope's strongest news conference performance of his residenecy.

:wtf:

[Fenris]

82. That really isn't saying much, is it?

:D

[Junkdrawer]

95. Dan really needs to stop reading the lines prepared for him BEFORE...

Bush's events. As in this case, sometimes Bush's performance is so off-the-wall that reading them only make him and Bush look stupid.

[Whoa_Nelly]

79. Freedom is a gift from the Almighty???

As if Smirk is the one who is omniscient...forget the framers of the Constitution and the precepts set forth by Locke. I really hope that in the debates next year that the Dem who takes him on reveals the truth on every point to pound this creep into the ground and beyond.

[Patriot_Spear]

84. Pontifex Maximus Rex Americanum

The Priest King of America. Let the crusades begin...

[bobbieinok]

85. DEBATE......from the reports on this thread

AWOL said, a poster wrote, that he was looking forward to the debate.

PLEASE NOTE;

He only mentioned one debate. BUT HE DID SAY IT.

The probable spin.....

....debate with Sadaam.....with reporters

....only one


and later.... <a leader at war cannot waste time on trivial things like politics>

.....just money raising

[MaineDem]

96. Such a hypocrite

At one point he chastised a reporter for "prejudging". In the next sentence * talked about SH as a murderer. Who's doing the prejudging???

This was a very poor performance by the BoyGeorge. Slurring, stammering, and stuttering.

I seriously wonder if the pauses and "umm"s were used to kill time waiting for the answers to be fed to him through an earpiece.

[Timefortruth]

101. BINGO! He was being fed the answers!

That is the answer! He had these loooonnnngg pauses, which I thought was just to kill time, so they could say the "press conference" lasted longer than it did. But that wasn't it at all.

The only problem with the theory is that the answers sucked so badly. Maybe he tried to make them his own.

[pinto]

102. no obvious earpiece, but yeah, he is totally programmed,

those long pauses may have been to recall the "flip chart"..(so when they ask about a reason to go to war say Saddam was a dictator and "he killed a lot of people".) killed a lot of people...LBN? LOL!

[Stephanie]

108. I think he has a screen in his podium

* pauses while waiting for the notes from Condi & Karl to appear on his cheat-sheet screen. Watch how he vamps for a minute, then looks down, then comes up with a whole new take on the question, complete with key words.

[lebkuchen]

109. In Germany, we were driving while listening to *'s incessant chatter

When Bush said he had a "strong dollar policy," my conservative friend's automatic reflex was, "What a liar!"

The dollar is at an all time low against the euro. It's laughable that Bush could call it "strong."

At least he admits that he was the reason we have such a huge national debt: recession, which he caused, the war with Iraq, which he started, and tax breaks, which he has fought for every year and will the next.

That was, by far, his worst press conference. If it gets any worse, he'll have to be carried out on a stretcher.

I enjoyed Bush's silence when the reporters started laughing at him. I would have loved to see the chimp's expression.