Newsweek: Rove, Bartlett Subpoenaed

[Nitrogenica]

"The president's political guru—and counselor Dan Bartlett—have been subpoenaed by Scooter Libby's lawyers. What it means for the most-watched trial in Washington—and who's next on the witness stand."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16832257/site/newsweek/

[sakabatou]

1. .

[Bjorn Against]

15. Have you ever noticed that Burns looks a lot like Dick Cheney?

And his politics are very similar to those of Burns as well. The similarities are remarkable. I could even see him putting his hands together like that and saying "excellent". Although he is certainly not going to do that now that he has to testify however.

[0007]

55. I thought junior looks a lot like George Burns during the State Of the Union Adress

[deadparrot]

2. Well, this was expected, wasn't it?

Here's hoping it continues going badly (and goes worse) for the BushAdmin.

[katty]

3. yes, but it sure is great to see a headline

[NI4NI]

4. Can Fitz kill two tirds with one stone?

Libby's on trial for perjury, not that he outed Mrs. Wilson.
So, will Fitz allow Libby's attorney plenty of leeway in questioning Rove (or Chaney)about who actually outed Wilson without objecting due to relevance?
Man, this is gettin' good!

[katty]

5. we shall see...go Fitzy!

[Gman]

6. Rove gets thrown under the bus too

bodies everywhere, tire tracks, etc.

[ixion]

8. stuffing people under the bus faster than the bus can run over them

...or so it would seem. :evilgrin:

[SquireJons]

10. Actually, it was Air Force One.

I remember seeing the video on CNN about two years ago, after shrub won re-election. It was some inside joke that never got explained, but Rove went out in front of the jet and laid down right in front of the giant tire. Too bad the plane didn't somehow lurch forward a foot or two.

[Catherine Vincent]

26. ....

[SquireJons]

27. I love you cat_girl!

Thanks ever so much. I didn't have a copy of the video nor any pics of it. Hallelujah.

[Catherine Vincent]

50. Thanks sugar!

:hi:

[Fovea]

34. Throttle Up!

Boy, that would have been nice.

[calimary]

37. Yep. I remember that photo, too. What I thought at the time was that

rove was playing some sort of farcical "you bet your life" with bush, telling him something like - "if I'm lyin', I'm dyin' - you ARE gonna win the election. So help me God. I'll lay down right here and let AF1 run right over me if I'm wrong."

I saw speculation elsewhere here (pure speculation, but fun-fun-fun) about how this evidently is a modus operendi of Fitzgerald's, and how he finally nailed his way up to indicting, trying, and convicting then-Governor Ryan of Illinois. Took him 50 convictions, working his way up the food chain, but that's how he did it. The speculation fantasized about the ultimate objective being bush. Wouldn't that be something!?

[ShockediSay]

40. After the results of the LASTelection,

I don't think KKKarl would play in that

traffic again.

[NI4NI]

21. What's even better

is they're getting thrown under the bus just as the wheels are all coming off.

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

29. Some poster on firedoglake said:

"It must be tough to get thrown under the bus at precisely the time the wheels come off."

[Ian David]

7. I hear they subponaed Steve Bridges, too

Just because Karl thinks the jury will get a big kick out of him.

[Straight Shooter]

9. "guru" must be Repub-speak for "conniving snake-oil salesman"

Rove will not come across well to the jurors. He thinks they're beneath him, and the contempt is going to show.

As for Bartlett, what a sleazy little wimp he is. Fitzgerald is going to wipe the floor with him.

Ever so steadily climbing up the ladder to the higher levels of the White House. I can't wait for Snarlin' Dick to be seated in the witness chair, swear to tell the truth, and then start lying his fat ass off.

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. The Clash of the Titans.

You know, I've noticed this about local good ole boys. You can never get them by yourself, the little guy against Goliath and his brothers. Frontal attacks, like civil lawsuits, don't really work unless you have lots and lots of money. However, if you convince one that the others are bonking his wife behind his back, maybe, just maybe you'll get to see them air their dirty laundry when they attack each other.

[bleever]

12. You mean Rove didn't outsmart Fitz?

It's a proud day for people with trust in our legal system.

[Garbo 2004]

17. Rove's been subpoenaed as a witness for the defense. Not the prosecution.

As to whether or not Libby's team will actually have him testify, that remains to be seen. It could be a feint. Or not. I rather doubt Rove's possible testimony as least as reported in the Newsweek article would be of significant help to Libby by the time the prosecution has rested its case. Additionally, I suspect having Rove on the stand overall is a potentially greater risk than help for Libby. We'll see.

[bleever]

19. Understood; I was speculating

as I did when I replied to your post over here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=50534&mesg_id=51137

It's fascinating, isn't it? Especially being able to discuss it like this.

[Garbo 2004]

22. Yeah, it is fascinating. One thing I remember is when Joe Wilson said in his book he was told that

Rove was furious with Libby/Cheney when it came out that the leak was seriously illegal and the problems that created for him and the White House. Rove supposedly turned on Libby and told him he wouldn't take the fall for the OVP's scheme.

IF Libby did indeed lie to Rover about how he learned about Valerie Wilson's employment and led Rove on to get him in on the game, how risky would it be to have Rove on the stand? And subject to cross by Fitz?

Since they're all snakes, it may be fun to find out. :)

[bleever]

25. The big double-cross:

Libby sets up Rove. Rove finds out he might be in legal deep shit, tells Libby he won't take the fall.

Rove is on the verge of indictment, and makes a deal with Fitz. Libby alone remains on the hot plate.

Team Libby needs to exonerate Scooter any way possible, which ends up being: make the water as muddy as possible. Drag Rove into it, and say he did bad things too. Rove has a deal with Fitz, but he ends up under oath, subpoenaed by Team Libby, and is forced into jeopardy he thought he had avoided by turning on Libby.

So: who double-crossed who?

:)

[Garbo 2004]

28. No doubt Libby's team wants to muddy things as much as possible. But pointing the finger at Rove

doesn't absolve Libby from charges of lying and perjury. And by the time the defense gets to present its case, it's going to look even worse for Scooter than it does now I figure.

I just don't see how Libby can really go after Rove without further incriminating himself. What's Rove going to do? Admit that he and Libby conspired to leak Plame's employment to the media? That doesn't help Libby at all.

Man this is better than the Sopranos. :D

[bleever]

30. When all the snakes are turning on each other,

my money's still on Fitz. He's done this before.

You're right: it's The Sopranos, The Untouchables, and Watergate rolled into one!

[Patsy Stone]

46. I think Karl was subpoenaed "in case of emergency".

Since Walton said that the "memory defense" would only be admitted if Scooter took the stand, and Wells seems to want to get around him taking the stand, I think Wells is keeping all of his options open. It seems to me (and IANAL) that in the opening he laid out all possible defense "strategeries", and the "not taking the fall for Rove" tack will be his last ditch effort.

I can't see how Karl's testimony would help him out either. Just because "Karl was doing it too", it doesn't exonerate Scooter.

[Garbo 2004]

48. Yeah, strategery. All Libby has is the memory defense and distraction.

Well I've sorta missed seeing old Gold Bars, I mean "a lawyer close to the case," in the papers. Wonder how his cat is doing? ;)

[Patsy Stone]

53. Exactly.

The first thing I thought was, "Look who's back!" Then I second-guessed myself for a minute, because the article didn't have a Jim VandeHei byline.

"...according to lawyers close to the case who asked not to be identified talking about sensitive matters." :rofl:

[texpatriot2004]

36. Bleever you are brilliant! Indeed, who is the double-crosser in

this scenario? :evilgrin:

[bleever]

39. I'm trying

to keep up with the brilliance in play.

And it's fun!

[Toots]

45. I think Rove will be incapable of telling the truth so maybe more perjury charges

Anyway it is just one more snake thrown in the den of vipers..

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

24. All of this testimony is going to come in handy for the Wilson's civil suit

The vendetta is going to be laid out in bold print and living color.

[Gman]

31. They defense better be ready for the onslaught of hell

on cross-examination.

[orleans]

13. k&r

i laughed out loud when i heard this--actually it was more of a smile and giggle

however--to anyone who might know, i have a question:

if the defense doesn't call rove can the prosecution call him even tho the defense has subpoenaed him? (or is the defense subpoena just a way to not let fitz call rove?)

[fNord]

14. WE ARE......

ON OUR WAY!!!

[lyonn]

32. Thanks for pic.

Someone mention earlier on this post of this stunt and wondered if it had anything to do with having just won the election. Something about being thrown under the bus/wheels. Makes sense.

[Stinky The Clown]

16. In my more wild dreams, Rove gets into a prejury trap and Bartlett squeals like the wuss he is

I have to admit ..... I had no hope at all for this trial .... but its getting gooooood!

[goforit]

18. Hmmmm.....Is this getting interesting?

Why would Libby's deffence want Rove and Bartlett?

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

20. Rove subpoenaed? Damn, where's the champahnyah?

:toast:

MKJ

[fNord]

23. I'm with you!!!!!

:toast: :beer: :beer: :puke: :beer:

[jazzjunkysue]

33. "not a scenario that anybody at the White House can be looking forward to"

But we are!

To quote my favorite speaker of the house: "Drain the swamp!"
:toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast:
:bounce:

[catzies]

35. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you define "Friday Bad News Dump."

:woohoo:

[Kurovski]

38. K&R(nt)

[wiley]

41. Maybe Fitzmas is March 17th?

You say, you say, Rove told the truth? Oh Sean H, you pudgy little sewer urchin!

:rofl:

[fooj]

42. The treasonous, rat bastards are going down!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Go Fitz!

[Countdown_3_2_1]

43. I don't think Rove is scared at all.

Rove is intelligent. He will manipulate this trial to go the way he wants it to go.
When Rove gets on the stand, he won't say anything to incriminate himself.

Come ON you guys! We KNOW Rove! This is not the end of him. This is just a game to Master Planner Rove.

[Frank Cannon]

44. Bush will give out pardons no matter what happens.

So I don't understand why anyone bothers to follow this giant handjob of a trial.

[halobeam]

47. The truth needs to come out nonetheless.

I'll take that. Wouldn't you?

[Frank Cannon]

54. Don't count on the truth coming out

Every single "investigation" this administration has been subject to has been a dog-and-pony show designed to sweep the truth under the rug and convince the masses that everything's okay. This trial may be in a different venue, but I have no reason to believe that this will end up any different. Scooter will be made the scapegoat for the whole thing, and then he'll be pardoned.

No way in hell will Dick Cheney let the real truth come out. It just won't happen.

[cassiepriam]

49. Yes, I agree. He is too smart by far.

He has it all worked out.

[trudyco]

52. But I think the prosecutor knows what he's doing, too...popcorn time

[alcibiades_mystery]

56. "Master Planner" Rove...who lost the popular vote by 500,000 in 2000

And just got his ass handed to him with one of the most devastating losses in Congressional history (his Master Plan cost the GOP six (!) Senate seats, and the House majority).

Yeah, what a genius...:eyes:

If you think Rove is a Master Planner, then YOU are the fucking idiot in the room.

[AngryAmish]

51. This is a distraction from important Edward's house issues

[Marie26]

57. It means that

Rove is not currently under double-super-secret indictment!