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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:12 PM
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Gallup: Most Americans say capture won't affect their vote for president
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 03:17 PM by seventhson
This was just reported on CNN. This is the subheadline as the other was too long.

Good news

http://www.gallup.com/poll/releases/pr031215.asp

The Sunday CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll did include one basic question designed to tap into Americans' immediate feelings about the capture's impact on their potential vote for Bush in the forthcoming presidential election.

The results show that most Americans say the capture won't affect their vote: 45% of those interviewed said they were planning on voting for Bush even before the capture, while almost as many, 43% said they were planning not to vote for Bush and that the capture would not change their opinion. That leaves just 3% of Americans whose immediate reaction was to admit that they have become more likely to vote for Bush as a direct result of the capture of Hussein:

Which of the following comes closest to your view -- ?


Planning to vote to re-elect even before capture 45%
Not planning to vote to re-elect, more likely now 3%
Not planning to vote to
re-elect, mind not changed 43%



NOT VOTE (vol.) 1%



No
opinion 8%


2003 Dec 14
45%
3
43
1
8

(vol.) Volunteered response

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:15 PM
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1. No, not consciously
I believe it will affect them more than they will admit or are aware of.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:17 PM
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2. This is just the test run
the capture of Usama is scheduled for late October of next year.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:28 AM
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18. No point in "worrying,"
if that's the right word, about that. If it happens, we're done.

But, hey, at least we'll be safer (hopefully).
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:18 PM
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3. This is great news! Also, I thought it was interesting that 54%
thought we would now find WMDs! Unbelievable. Well, they ain't there and this whole "feat" will backfire on the thugs like all their stunts.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:36 PM
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5. yup
I was amazed by giddy the whores were yesterday... totaly over-hyping the significance. Judy Woodruff even implied that Gen. Clark should recent his recent questioning of *'s competence in light of catching Saddam. Amazing.

But this is good for us in the long run, the higher and more unrealistic the expectations are the bigger the crash when reality sets in. And yes we should push the WMD thing. They have no excuse now, they ahve all the major players, the weapons scientists, the military people. Now apart from the fact that they all have told the same story, that the WMDs were destroyed and the programs shut down more than 10 years ago, they should be able dig up whatever evidence that there might be, however flimsy, to support their orginal reasons to invade Iraq.
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formactv Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:47 PM
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12. There they are! The WMDs!
In his pockets. Look in Saddam's pockets.
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:25 PM
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4. Convention Prop
Does anyone really believe our Supreme Leader, Karl Rove, is going to allow Sadaam to be tried by the Iraqis? No way. He's way too valuable for something as just as a trial by the very people he tortured and murdered.

Rove plans to have Sadaam in a cage or chained to a stake in New York City at ground zero the first day of the neocon convention. Bush will cinch up his parachute, jump out of a plane, and while he's descending to a cheering adoring crowd he'll put about a hundred holes in the former Iraqi leader with an M-60 machine gun from the hip.

I'm so proud to be an American with Rove, uh, I mean Bush in command. sniff.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 03:52 PM
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6. Hi jmcon007!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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clspector Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:23 PM
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7. This is good news . . .
and it's interesting that the last three publicity stunts having to do with the war have backfired giving them no help in the polls.

The "Mission Accomplished" nonsense is now a liability (whoops, guess the White House did make that sign after all). George's Excellent Turkey Adventure gave them only the barest of upwards bumps. And now Saddam's capture hasn't budged their “re-elect” numbers over 50%. . . Presidents with re-elect numbers under 50% are in trouble.

I think this actually shows a real deep-seated reluctance to "re"-elect the chimp. And maybe even a gradual awakening on the part of the electorate that the actions of the cabal are motivated not by what’s best for the country but what makes good PR for the Chimpster.

It seems to me that the earlier they have to trot out these big plays, the better for us. Look for Osama to be captured sooner rather than later. Look for an invasion of Syria, maybe even another big terrorist attack (depending on how tin-foil hat you want to be). In short, this poll may be good news after all.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:25 PM
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8. Hopefully, three strikes and you're out, eom
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 04:53 PM
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9. Most people expected Saddam would be captured
shortly after "major combat" ended. I mean, who would have thought it would take this long?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 05:05 PM
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10. Don't see why it matters so much.
It's not like they caught OBL.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:51 PM
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11.  I don't expect this to matter much....
Catching Saddam isn't a measure of a successful foreign policy-it was just a matter of time. What may hurt them is the raised expectations and cheering about it like it was a bigger deal. When the news shows him as a pathetic figure it makes me wonder how this guy was such a treat to a nation like ours. That's what the dems should be saying: this was the guy bush was so afraid of??? This was the guy we lost 440+ soldiers for? This was the guy we killed 10,000+ Iraqi's for? This was the guy we lost our friends and good standing in the world for? Excuse me????
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GreenGreenLimaBean Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:14 PM
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13. Saddam captured and *bush can't even crack 50%
Unless he's got Osama locked up and is gonna pull him out
next November, *bush is goin down.
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dax Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:39 PM
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15. They probably have Osama in a freezer, or a hospitol, with Cheney's docs..
I have felt that the compulsion of this Administration with timing and photo-ops is driving policy decisions with disasterous results.
I predicted they had Saddam about a month ago or whenever Cheney made that speech to a conservative group that "something would happen to help their plans. I don't remember what he said exactly, it also made me think we might get another terrorist direct attack of scale but hopefully, all he meant was that they could pop Saddam out if they needed a distraction, say when it became clear that they outed an undercover agent to try and discredit an HONORABLE public servant who had received a medal of honor for actually RESCUING people.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 09:18 PM
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14. It's hard to believe that 45% like fascism?
If you read the info on the 10 factors that are present in a fascist society you will see how our country is slowly changing....many evidently don't care!
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:57 PM
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16. This says it all about the capture of Saddam...
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 02:29 AM
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17. Do you really think
that our fearless leader wants SH to testify in some world court or even in an Iraq court.

Questions about the missing WMD:
do they exist?
where did you obtain them from?
when were they destroyed?
did your government attempt to seek a peaceful resolution
prior to the US attack on Iraq?

And speaking of OBL - come on, they can't afford to capture him alive. He might share his family business relationships with the Bush family. That would bust the Bush myth of being a straight shooter. Even worse, it might lead to Saudi Arabia - and there is that ugly question of when did Bush know of the potential threat - that resulted in 9/11; Was mr. Bush warned by the Saudi government of a threat prior to 9/11;

Too many questions - and our government, today, cannot stand the light of truth.

Having said that, I am glad of the capture of SH, I hope he has a fair trial in a world court, rather than under an Iraq/American court. And that the trial will be a shining example of what Bush and his administration can expect, when Bush is removed from office and the real investigations begin.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:43 AM
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19. If FAUX would play this five minute video, junior would fall like a rock,
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:11 AM
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20. So Sunday's gloatfest was a flop?
It was sickening Sunday to listen to some of the talking heads spouting their crap. How the Dems might as well just forget about even nominating someone to run against their great, victorious, fearless leader. How this capture proved all those terrorist loving antiwar folks were wrong. How this was suddenly going to make Iraq and the US safer. How W's re-selection was assured by this event. Amazing how it took less than a day for the shine to come off of this one. I guess most Americans are becoming just as cynical as a lot of us at DU and can see through W's bull much more quickly then when he pulled the Mission Accomplished stunt. The more Bu$hCo tries to take political advantage of a situation, the more it seems to backfire. Just imagine in the next couple of weeks when more details come out about the circumstances around Saddam's 'capture' leak out, I think that some of these folks will be wearing egg on their faces.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:52 AM
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21. I would say so
As I predicted, the news is all about how this is not really hurting Dean at all. Bush gets a tiny bounce and then begins to freefall again (ubless the prtess can cover up the insanity and daily death tolls for 9 months)
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