Poll: Ohioans favor Clinton, Guiliani for president

[Algorem]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3086524

1/30/2007, 6:06 a.m. ET
By JULIE CARR SMYTH
The Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a strong lead over other Democratic presidential contenders in a new poll of voters in Ohio, the closely divided swing state that tipped the 2004 election for President Bush.

Former New York Mayor Rudy Guiliani, who appeared in TV ads and at fundraisers during last year's gubernatorial race, is the favorite among the state's Republican voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday. He is favored by 30 percent of voters surveyed compared to 22 percent for Sen. John McCain, 11 percent for former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and 4 percent for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Among Ohio Democrats, 38 percent pick Clinton, 13 percent pick Sen. Barack Obama, 11 percent pick former vice presidential candidate John Edwards, and 6 percent would vote for former Vice President Al Gore. Ohio's own Rep. Dennis Kucinich gets just 2 percent of the vote, or less than the survey's margin of error.

"Those who say Sen. Hillary Clinton can't win the White House because she can't win a key swing state like Ohio might rethink their assumption," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute...



Tuesday, January 30, 2007

Hillary could win Ohio (if election held today)

http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/openers/index.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_openers/archives/2007_01.html#231106


Ohioans who say that Hillary Clinton could never win the presidential election might want to rethink. A new survey of Ohio voters, just out this morning from Quinnipiac University, puts the New York senator ahead of all probable competitors -- even Rudy Giuliani and John McCain.

The poll's margin of error, however, shows either man might win, too, if the election were held today...

* Clinton, 38 percent
* Don't know, 17 percent
* Barack Obama, 13 percent
* John Edwards, 11 percent
* Al Gore, 6 percent
* John Kerry (who announced while the poll was in progress that he won't run), 6 percent.

A lot of Ohioans don't know much about Obama yet, the poll shows. A lot of Ohioans don't like Clinton -- especially Republicans -- and her unfavorability rating statewide is 49 percent, compared with a 38 percent favorable rating...







Brown is all business in talk to City Club

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1170151945119120.xml&coll=2

Tuesday, January 30, 2007

...Reiterating many of his campaign proposals, Brown said Ohio's economy will benefit from rewriting trade policies, turning Ohio into the "Silicon Valley" of alternative energy and working with business groups to promote health care and biotechnology companies...


During one of his answers about the Iraq war, Brown predicted that Congress will pass a nonbinding resolution against President Bush's proposal to send more troops to Iraq.

He then jabbed at Republicans who don't support the war in Iraq but are afraid to say so, claiming that the resolution would pass 90 to 10 if it were taken by secret ballot.

"Because it's not a secret ballot, I think it will be much closer," he said.




Looking out for the middle class

http://www.crainscleveland.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070129/FREE/70129017/1008&Profile=1008

By JAY MILLER

3:23 pm, January 29, 2007

Sen. Sherrod Brown made clear at the City Club of Cleveland today, that he will continue to press for reform of trade and health care laws and other measures he believes will bolster the American middle class.

And he reiterated his opposition to the war in Iraq.

He and the other nine freshman senators elected to Congress last fall — giving the Democrats a majority in the upper house — were victorious, he said, because, “for too long our government has betrayed the middle class.”

“No society,” he added, “has survived without a middle class.”...

[lancdem]

1. The ratings for Hillary are reversed in the story

She has a 49 percent favorable rating, not 38 percent. I hope it's an innocent mistake on the reproter's part, and he's not channeling Fox's John Gibson.

[HockeyMom]

2. As a New Yorker

who has seen both of them "up close and personal", I am not particularly happy with either choice. However, I still would go with Hillary, which according to the last New York State Poll I read, the majority of New Yorkers would too.

Sorry, St. Rudy would not win his own State.

[lancdem]

3. I think the last GOP presidential candidate to win NY

in the general election was Reagan.

[The Count]

4. Or, for that matter, his own city

[sm409]

5. useless

these early polls of primary states are useless.

[cmd]

6. I disagree

True, they are meaningless in predicting the future. However, they validate a candidacy; and Hillary looks like a valid candidate at this time. Her strong showing surprised me.

[LibDemAlways]

7. Hillary has gained "front runner" status by virtue of

a combination of name recognition and the corporate whores pushing her candidacy. A year before the first of the 04 primaries, Lieberman was in a similar spot and look where his campaign ended up. All of this is way too premature. Give it a year and see what happens.

[Zodiak]

8. Yeah...that was a low point.

The Iraq war had started, Bush was at the height of his power, the public was drinking the kool-aid.

....and Leiberman was the frontrunner for 2004.

A nadir, indeed.

[rinsd]

10. It is premature but the comparison with Lieberman is a bit off.

Clinton has even more name recognition than he does and she actually had a formidable war chest.

She has been rumored to be running for President as early as 2000.

Check out this early polling. Even with Lieberman near the top Gore and Clinton are the top getters before the field became settled. They were in some cases doubling Lieberman's numbers.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem2.htm

Clinton has since 2002 been viewed as a formidable and popular candidate.

[LibDemAlways]

11. Formidable...yes...because of her $$. Popular?

With who? The only people I've spoken with who are confident Hillary will be the nominee are repukes - who've bought into the corporate media spin. I don't know a single person who thinks she's our best bet for success in 08. She's way down on my list.

[rinsd]

13. Yes, popular.

I don't know if she will be the nominee. Obama is putting together quite a campaign team. Edwards is a great campaigner.

But whether she is popular or not?

"The only people I've spoken with who are confident Hillary will be the nominee are repukes - who've bought into the corporate media spin."

This always cracks me up. The disdain for corporate spin I understand. The simultaneously ignoring of the reality of said corporate spin is funny. Yes on DU Clinton is slightly more popular than most Republicans which are about as popular as an STD. But in the real world she is quite popular. One could even say she is incredibly popular in terms of the actual numbers of people that know her and have a favorable opinion of her.

"I don't know a single person who thinks she's our best bet for success in 08. She's way down on my list."

I think she certainly has a good shot.

[LibDemAlways]

18. It's a given that Hillary is well known.

However, she's the candidate the right most loves to hate and she'd energize the opposition like no one else.

I want to see a Dem victory in 08 which means nominating the strongest possible ticket with the most national appeal and the least negatives overall.

She may well have a good shot at the nomination, given her money and connections, but winning more states than Kerry or Gore in a close election, I doubt it. (And I do believe both the 2000 and 2004 elections were stolen simply because they were close enough to steal. Never underestimate the dirty tricks capacity of the republican party.)

[RiverStone]

16. Agreed. The tail is going to wag the dog...

For a while yet. Thats the MSM and Hillary is their media darling.

I'm both hopeful and confident the landscape will look very different a year from now.

My wish list - GORE/CLARK 08! :)

[LibDemAlways]

17. Your wish list and my wish list are the same.

A Gore/Clark ticket would kick ass.

[dysfunctional press]

9. Poll: ohians consider Clinton, Guliani to have most name recognition.

nt

[brentspeak]

12. Anyone else get the feeling the media is trying to pick the candidates for us?

[OhioChick]

14. You got it. (Media Choosing)

From what I hear through conversation here, much of the public seem to like Kucinich or Edwards on the Dem side. As for the Repub., McCain. I haven't heard too many positive comments regarding either Hillary or Guliani.

[MasonJar]

15. As a Kentuckian who worked diligently in Ohio for Kerry, since my

own state was a loser for sure, I know that Ohio and the chairman of W's campaign/state employee in charge of fair elections really cheated the election into the Bush column. May they both burn in Hell...along with Jeb and Katherine.