Growing Fury and Unrest in Iraq...Dec 16

[tlcandie]

http://electroniciraq.net/news/1268.shtml

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Hamudi, what is wrong? You look very tired."

He slowly looks up at me and responds.

"You want the truth? I am very, very scared."

He tells me he fears civil war now in Iraq. Within two or three months if things continue like this.
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Later we are watching some footage from demonstrations, and a funeral service in Al-Aahimiyah today. The funeral service was for an Iraqi killed, one of many, a few days ago by Americans. Last night the locals report 24 Iraqis killed for demonstrating.

On BBC we watch footage of Americans gunning down Iraqis as they ran from the armor clad vehicles. Gunned down in the street as they tried to run away, red tracer bullets leaving laser-like trails as they flew past bodies falling upon the cement. This was told to be in Ramadi, by the BBC, then later the same footage was told to have occurred in Falluja. As usual, the truth is hard to come by, even here, unless it is witnessed personally -- or residents of an entire neighborhood or city are all telling the same story.

This when, according to Iraqis converging around journalists today at the scene amidst pools of blood and pieces of US military uniforms, remnants from the night before when the fighting commenced in earnest. Pent up rage towards the occupiers was being released in the form of RPG's and machine guns firing towards the Americans. Three Hummers are reported to have been destroyed. Black scars mark where they were hit, burned into the pavement.

The US military have reported no deaths from this area last night.
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Alaskan freelance journalist in Iraq to document the untold story... you decide if we are hearing the whole truth...he made this chilling statment within the story..

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I stand in utter disbelief in what the military from my country is doing before my very eyes here.
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Mods I am sorry this violates the 4 paragraph rule; albeit I hope you will give me a bit of leeway as there are several one sentence statments which I felt very pertinent to this story as all that is here to give them a good idea of what the story was about. Thanks ahead of time for your understanding.

[Military Brat]

1. All those who understand Iraq's history fear civil war may erupt

That is why the situation was so touchy about removing Saddam. But bush isn't thinking about what's good for the Iraqis, not really. He's thinking about oil, his ratings, American dominance of the Middle East.

"Capturing" Saddam might have been a good thing, or it might have been the spark which ignites a powder keg. Bring our troops home, now!

[tlcandie]

2. I believe it is not no holds barred...again catalyst that may bring it

to a head...bad for Iraqis no matter how it goes down IMO. Did you look at this article? Very interesting factual disputes. Great source to reconcile our medias lack of integrity.

[Sugarbleus]

5. In agreement MB.

I don't know what the hell is going on over there but it ain't good for anybody..them or us.

BRING OUR TIRED,STRESSED,DISILLUSIONED,ANGRY,FRIGHTENED
SOLIDERS HOME NOW!

Piss on the illegal "mission".

Damn Bush's soul to hell :grr:

[Gloria]

3. Excellent report on ABC Australia this AM from a reporter with guerillas

Weapons are pouring in across the border. He reported seeing weapons with English language markings and some Russian weapons. He said there were inumerable weapons caches all over Iraq, no one knows how many.

He said that the guerillas he was with thought the capture of Saddam was OK, but their concern is the line they've drawn, that the Americans MUST go...they want a "free" Iraq.

Awesome report...

[tlcandie]

4. Do you have a link or was it here earlier?

If so I must have missed it and will search...thanks!

EDIT: Either way, the story we are getting doesn't even pale in comparison to the truth IMO after reading this guy's stories and others we have heard.

One man in this story says he's told 100s of reporters his story and not one of them has printed or told his side of the story; hence, they all lie.

[leftchick]

6. Why would the US steal Iraqi bodies?

<The next day we watch as a man holds up a US MP armband, then throws it to the ground and stomps on it angrily. He picks it back up, holds it in front of the camera, then throws it back down for the stamping of the crowd.

Other pieces of US soldiers gear and provisions are scattered about on the ground.

Young boys stand over a pool of what they say is American blood, spitting in it and hailing Saddam.

Do we need yet another reason for Iraqis who have been attacked by US soldiers to be enraged? Unfortunately, there are more. One being that the Americans sealed off the hospital in Al-Aadimiyah today after removing all the bodies of Iraqis killed last night in the fighting. The wounded were taken directly to prison. No journalists were allowed inside.>

....This is one scary article. The truth about the horror in Iraq will probably not be seen mainstream in the US for many years, if ever. thank you for posting this tlcandie.

[reprobate]

7. not be seen mainstream in the US for many years

There IS one factor that mitigates in our favor. That is the medium that we are using to talk with each other right now: The Internet.

I believe ( and polls seem to agree) that more and more people in the US are abandoning the network media and turning to the internet for their information. Just look at the impact that groups such as moveon.org are having, and you see that they are backed by millions of americans. In the past there was no place to turn for alternative news sources. Today there are many, and they are growing at the same pace that dissillusion with the network media is growing.

This is a factor that KKKKarl ignores at his peril. I believe it will bring down the administration.

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. To bring to the mass graves?

This is turning into such a horror.

How did W manage to turn our military into a bunch of war criminals in just 2.5 years? I knew things would be bad, but I never dreamed that it would be the US troops who would behave worse than Saddam's SS.

[ithacan]

9. just like in Panama: to remove the evidence, yes, to mass graves

this is standard operating procedure as far as I can tell.

[0007]

10. For you folks that have NewsInternational - start watching

'Tis getting ugly and is spreading all over Iraq

[leftchick]

11. do you mean News World International?

I watch it occasionaly and have not seen it lately. I will make a point to tune in....

[0007]

15. Yes that's what I mean, I'm sorry I make so many mistakes -

[leftchick]

16. don't be sorry...

we all do! :)

[sistersofmercy]

12. The trouble here is that the misadministration has hammered over

and over again that the resistance fighting has been Saddam loyalist mainly and our troops see these demonstrations as a large gathering of would be attackers, whether it was true before these events took place it does not matter because this surely has added to the growing number of nationalist resistance fighters. From my understanding most of the pro Saddam rallies have been by former government employees who find themselves frustrated without a job or at least that is how the began.

[Barrett808]

13. Let's find this video footage

Sounds like the kind of thing you have to see for yourself to make a judgement.

[loudnclear]

14. "Killed for demonstrating?" Some example of democracy...

What would you feel if your role was reversed with Iraqis?