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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:15 AM
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NYT/CBS Poll Shows Bush Losing Support of Republicans
NYT: Poll Shows Bush Is Losing Support of Republicans
By MARJORIE CONNELLY
Published: March 2, 2007

In the months since the Congressional elections, President Bush has lost substantial support among members of his own party, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.

Mr. Bush’s approval rating dropped 13 percentage points since last fall among Republicans, 65 percent of whom now say they approve of the way he is handling his job as president, compared with 78 percent last October.

Over all, Mr. Bush’s job approval remains at one of its lowest points, with 29 percent of all Americans saying they approve of the way he is doing his job, compared with 34 percent at the end of October. Sixty-one percent disapproved, compared with 58 percent in October, within the margin of sampling error.

Twenty-three percent of those polled approved of the way Mr. Bush is dealing with the situation in Iraq. Twenty-five percent approved of his handling of foreign policy.

Even the president’s campaign against terrorism, long his signature issue, is seen positively by only 40 percent of those polled, while 53 percent disapprove....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/02/washington/02approve.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1172812226-qY4VosM+VlTHI9XhF2Ey1g
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:30 AM
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1. EVERYbody knows he sucks!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:36 AM
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2. I strongly suspect that those who approve are unaware of current events.
They get a phone call and just automatically give answers to support him.

Then there are those who think speaking out against bush is emboldening the terrorists.

It's all so very sad. His numbers should be down in the single digits, and that would be the pity votes.
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:55 AM
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3. I love seeing that 29% approval rating, but just as important...
...is that 61% disapproval rating; it means only 10% are undecided or unwilling to say they disapprove, and I think that category is bound to shrink even further. If Bush gets to a 66% or 2/3 disapproval rating, only cowards and Christofacists would oppose impeaching him; at that point, there can be no valid argument re: political/electoral fallout against impeachment
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-03-07 07:58 AM
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38. This actually upsets me.
I'd be most happy if the Republicans cannot get the necrotic stink of Bush off them for a generation or two.
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:58 AM
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4. Even the purple KoolAid drinkers are getting a clue!
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:59 AM
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5. Even the RW radio hatemongers are hard pressed to say anything positive.




They weren't listening when we kept saying what a miserable failure this asshole is.





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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:09 AM
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14. They weren't listening because they
were too busing saying "BUT Clinton......!"
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 01:25 AM
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6. The repukes could win big if they turn their backs on Bush and start the impeachment process
but I'm day dreaming again.
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PFunk Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 02:19 AM
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8. May be. But I think that's going to happen.
Especially when they relalize that this idiot will all but hand the election to the Dems if he (and the war) are still active by election time.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 03:36 AM
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10. "If"???
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:26 AM
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11. Republicans will never impeach Bush
They don't have to. Look what happened with Nixon: they gave him a choice and he picked the least painful option.

Even though Bush makes Al Capone look law-abiding and Nixon look honest, the Republicans will never impeach him.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 02:03 AM
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7. They neglect to cover an important point-
A substantial portion of publiclown disapproval comes from those who think he's too librul!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 02:30 AM
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9. and the Senate is still stumped (ruled by Repugs)-----go figure.
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Jacklyn75 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:29 AM
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12. I think it's actually lower than that! I just don't understand
republicans! Most of them will tow the party line and support bush - no matter what!
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 06:33 AM
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13. Very Nixonesque
Sorry for the insult Tricky dick.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:27 AM
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15. 65% of Repukes STILL approve!!??
... of the way he is handling his job as president.

That's really a shock. What is WRONG with these idiots? No American with more awareness than pond scum should be approving how he's doing. Uhh, I guess I answered my own question.

I live in rural upstate NY surrounded by Pugs. A few years ago they were all gung-ho for Bush, now even they're badmouthing him freely.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:54 AM
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21. I know what you mean
At first, I thought, "Yay. Maybe now we'll get somewhere." But two thirds of them still think he's doing a good job. :wow:

I honestly thought that after the drubbing the R's took in November, the ones remaining would realize that continuing to support Bush would COST THEM THEIR JOBS and they'd start acting like human beings. It seems to have moved only a handful of them. Maybe it's this 65% that keep them from doing what's so obviously right.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:55 AM
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22. sheer stubbornness
See my post below (#20). My republican dad even admitted it was stubbornness.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:48 AM
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16. Hurray for our side! Let's get that number even lower!!
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 08:53 AM
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17. low, yes, but it still boggles the mind
that "Twenty-three percent of those polled approved of the way Mr. Bush is dealing with the situation in Iraq."

That is a LOT of people! Some 75 million or so.

Maybe the poll included people in dementia care centers,who thought they were being asked about WWII.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:34 AM
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18. Actually I work with one of those nut jobs
He still believes there were weapons of mass destruction, and insists they were moved before we invaded. Everything we've done, we "had" to do.

:banghead:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:46 AM
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19. don't you just love it when
someone with no "intel" whatsoever has figured it all out, just "knows" what "really happened"

a not-insignificant portion of the population is so detached from reality that they can readily believe anything that comes into their minds. Reminds me of my Dad in his last days. One evening he had "sundowner syndrome". Woke up from a nap and insisted there was a building next door to the hospital with a military HQ; that he needed to get over there and report for duty. I tried to gently chide him out of it, told him he'd had a dream, but he would have none of it. He KNEW what was there, had details, was totally lucid. The human brain creates a reality - this is fact. The "knowledge" that is in there is only that which has been assembled and stored there over time. There is no control that says the zeroes and ones must be organized consistently with ANY outside confirming entity. No "peer review". Dad was an example of what goes on throughout all our lifetimes when we dream, and for many, when awake.

I guess we are lucky that at least a small portion of the population actually seeks to sort out concrete facts and give them priority.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:43 AM
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26. I know what you mean...
Edited on Fri Mar-02-07 11:45 AM by NewJeffCT
I was on a business trip in Freeperville a while back, and was stuck in a room surrounded by a bunch of them (cue the music from "Deliverance")

One guy started up saying how, "We had to go into Iraq. We had to."

No reason, other than "We had to."

Then, the rest of the guys all nodded their heads in agreement.

Same thing when they brought up Clinton. "we had to impeach him. We had to."

Again, no reason other than "we had to" and the rest of them just nodded in agreement.

I mean, how can you argue with logic like that?
That's like when I talk with my 3 year old daughter and tell her that she can't have something that is dangerous. She'll still demand it, and I'll ask her why, and her answer is "Because!"







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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:54 AM
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20. Even my evangelical lifelong republican dad
Even my dad, a life-long republican and evangelical Christian has stopped supporting Bush. Finally. He said it would've come sooner but he didn't want to admit his kids had been right all along. So that's why there's still hangers-on; stubborn and unable to admit they were wrong.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:34 PM
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34. Robert MacNamarra
said that they knew the Vietnam war was unwinnable in 1967, yet support for it continued up until 1975 because staying in that quagmire was somehow saving face so people around the world wouldn't see the U.S. as quitters.
I got sent over in 67 and wish someone would have chosen to quit when they knew it was a loser. It was the worst year of my life and the effects are still with me. It's harder to forget than remember.
So what are these crackpot Bush supporters going to do for returning GIs, cut their benefits and pray for the best?
Anyone still supporting these criminals is dishonest or stupid or both.
Religious fundamentalism is a bad excuse for shirking responsibility. Attributing everything to an unknown entity is a second hand excuse for being fearful and lazy.
From the time we entered Iraq to the time we leave will be an exercise in pissing into the wind.
Admit the mistake and move on. It will save life and limb.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:06 AM
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23. Can someone email this to Harry Reid? Or is he giong to do another non-binder?
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:11 AM
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24. About damn time
They need to take their heads out of his ass. They've been blinded by their loyalty to party for too long.

Sonia
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 11:37 AM
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25. That 65% is further proof that Repug BizzaroWorld need not deal in facts or truth.
I also have to agree with the many comments on the 'stubbornness' factor that exists in this country among the true believers in Bushco.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:17 PM
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27. Something that immediately caught my eye...
His approval rating is described as being "at one of its lowest points, with 29 percent..." Does that mean that he has been at or below 29% before? If so, I don't think the Liberal Press ever told us. Did they just let something slip here in their effort to mitigate the impact of that 29% number?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:18 PM
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28. Funny. I was having a glass of wine at a hotel bar after work last night,
CNN was on, and the guy next to me struck up a conversation on the day's events. He was really well spoken and well versed in history. At one point in our conversation he smiled, shook his head, and said, "I'm so embarrassed to be a Republican right now."

I smiled and said, "I don't blame you."
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:26 PM
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32. I sure wish Repubs like this would act on their embarrassment and re-register
Doesn't have to be Democrat. They could re-register as Independents or Libertarians. Just vote with their feet. Let the Repo party know they're not happy. Help the country. Help us recover from their mistake.
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:56 PM
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29. A Testament to Brainless Partisanship
Those people who 'approve' of Bush would do so no matter what...which should be obvious at this point. Problem is, if Congress doesn't bitchslap the executive branch when the general public is demanding it, then we again have lost our voice in Washington.

Bushco relies on this. That's how they maintain their little quasi-fascist regime, remain unaccountable to the electorate, and do it with a smirk.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:00 PM
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30. Well, Duh. 58% of Americans want his Presidency over now.
Newsweek Poll, http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-27-2007/0004514285&EDATE=">27-Jan-07
"At this point in time, do you personally wish that George W. Bush's presidency was over, or don't you feel this way?

58% Yes, wish it was over

37% No, do not

5% Don't know/refused
The breakdown by Party found that 21% of Republicans, which constitutes 7% of all Americans (see chart below) "wish it was over"

Tragically, 12% of Democrats, which constitutes 4% of all Americans (see chart below) "do not" want it over.

Note: The question, "do you personally want it over" strips out all the impeachophobic rationalizations, and thus captures the actual level of support for impeachment.

_________________________
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dicknbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:26 PM
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31. Big Fucking Deal THE DAMAGE IS DONE YOU IDIOTS!
What now you get a brain after he is elected twice NOW YOU GET A BRAIN when there is nothing short of Impeachment to get rid of the idiot? THanks alot go back ot your stupidity and please stay away from voting machines especially every four years!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:31 PM
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33. Translation: 2/3 of Republicans are rightwing zealots
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 04:48 PM
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35. Why do Republicans hate Amurika?
:cry:
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 07:33 PM
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36. Shocker...
:eyes:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:38 PM
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37. Almost 3/4 of rethugs
still support him...no matter what he does they still support him...what is wrong with them?!? :wtf:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-04-07 12:36 AM
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39. By the end of his term, only his parents and wife will be supporting him
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