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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:05 PM
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Libby found GUILTY on 4 counts.
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:06 PM by Auntie Bush
Announced on most TV Channels.

count 3 not quilty
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:06 PM
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1. not guilty on Matt Cooper charge
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talksabout Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:07 PM
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5. It's a start.
Wake me up when we get to the bush=GUILTY, cheney=GUILTY verdicts!!
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:23 PM
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54. Welcome to DU, talksabout!
:hi: Good to have you here. And yeah, I'll be waiting for those verdicts as well.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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189. The Juror spokesman said
they were sorry for Libby because it was apparent that the higher ups put him up to it. The columnist, Sidney Shanberg (NY Observer) wrote from the trial that the Libby trial was really was the subtext for an impeachment of Cheney.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:58 PM
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216. Yeah, chain of command will get Cheney/Bush. . .
wondering. . .doesn't this conviction make it easy for Madame Pelosi to reconsider and say impeachment investigations are BACK ON THE TABLE?

Or am I jumping the gun here. . .need a criminal case first against Cheney?

And which insider is Fitz aiming to pressure next to "spill the beans"?

Really nice job, Mr. Fitzgerald. . .and I send you good fortune for the rest of the job. . .ASAP!

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:26 PM
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245. DING DING DING! Lena, you're our grand prize winner!
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 05:30 PM by rocknation
...Doesn't this conviction make it easy for Madame Pelosi to reconsider and say impeachment investigations are BACK ON THE TABLE?

It would be more about inevitability than ease. Madame Peolsi may no longer have a choice but to put impeachment back on the table--after all, it's her Congressional DUTY...

:evilgrin:
rocknation
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:53 PM
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264. Madame Speaker is even LESS able to do so now than before
because SHE is 3rd in line for the job herself. There's no way the GOPers would let that little factoid not destroy her and the effort.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:38 PM
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267. Nancy is SECOND in line
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 09:39 PM by rocknation
Bush isn't first in line for the presidency--he's already there.

1 The Vice President
2 Speaker of the House
3 President pro tempore of the Senate
4 Secretary of State
5 Secretary of the Treasury
6 Secretary of Defense
7 Attorney General

:headbang:
rocknation
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:30 PM
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272. LOL -- ya got me
And sheesh. I knew I was math challenged, but even I didn't realize HOW math challenged.

:rofl:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
225. And Rumsfeld=guilty and Wolfowitz=guilty and Feith=guilty!!!
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MarkR1717 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:11 AM
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287. So who leaked.....
Plames name? Armitage. And was she covert at the time? No. So why was the investigation continued? Fitz already knew Armitage did it.?
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:07 PM
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2. whhoooooo hooooo! n/t
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:07 PM
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3. MSNBC: Libby found guilty on some charges in CIA leak case.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:18 PM
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242. 4 out five of the charges isn't SOME of them, MSNBC!
It's MOST of them!

Now the fun REALLY begins--let's see how the media plays this...

:headbang:
rocknation
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:59 PM
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252. SOME?!? -- how about almost ALL
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:07 PM
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4. Awesome!!! NT.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:08 PM
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6. FITMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:applause: :bounce:
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:09 PM
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7. Excellent !!!!
:toast:
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:09 PM
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8. MERRY FITZMAS!!!
FINALLY IT HAS COME!!! WOOHOO!!!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:24 PM
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55. Oh, you took the words out of my mouth! CHENEY NEXT!!!!!!!!!
YES, I STILL BELIEVE IN FITZMAS!!!!!

Oh, gawd what a relief!!!!!!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:29 PM
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232. It was a long wait....
but at long last someone, SOMEONE in the Bush administration is being held accountable for one of their multitudinous crimes. It's only the start, I hope, of what will become a total draining of the Bush White House swamp. There are so many crimes yet to answer for but for now... :toast: EAT ME, SCOOTER! :rofl:
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:10 PM
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9. I hope they cut his balls off...well maybe not that.
but this is an amazing development!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:21 PM
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112. He would need a medical shot to get his balls to come out of hiding
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:10 PM
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10. Yes!
:kick:
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:10 PM
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11. YES!!!
Go straight to jail, loser. No get out of jail free card.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:21 PM
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45. Except for the pardon that is n/t
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #45
250. No pardon because this will bring attention to * and Deadeye.
At least until Xmas 2008.
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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:02 PM
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237. probably not
Unfortunately scooter is probably not looking at any slammer time until the appeals process has been drug out for as long as it possibly can be.And you can be sure you'll hear no wingnuts complaining about that process.
Dailykos has(d) a diary up on the freepers reaction to the verdict. It's the end of western civilization as we know it. I tell you the republic is lying in ashes and Osama Bin Laden will probably be taking up residence in the white house in the next few days.For anyone with a strong enough stomach to stand a distilled sample of freeper madness I recommend that you take a look.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:11 PM
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12. I stood on my front porch and howled!
Merry Fitzmas!!!:toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:11 PM
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13. I am mentally hugging each and every one of you
Good day for America. Good day for DU!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:patriot: :grouphug:
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:20 PM
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43. Hugs all around!
:grouphug:
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:12 PM
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14. Yesssssssssssssssss! I never use the bouncy smilies, but:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:09 PM
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262. Ditto!!!!!!!!
After suffering so long, revenge is sweet!!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:12 PM
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15. Damn, we are good. Our poll on the verdict was spot on!
YIPPEE! ! ! ! !
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
263. do you have a link to that poll, antifaschits ?
I need to bookmark it. :)
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 PM
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16. In the immortal words from "Doonesbury"
GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:21 PM
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46. Exactly what I was thinking of.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 PM
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17. NEXT!!!!!!
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:21 PM
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44. fuckin eh
Which crook goes down next ?
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 PM
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18. I want more more more!
With a rebel yell!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 PM
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19. But what were the four counts?!
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:16 PM
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33. The four counts were:
Obstruction of Justice
False Statements to FBI Investigators about Russert conversation
Perjury to the Grand Jury about Russert conversation
Perjury to the Grand Jury about Cooper conversation
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:17 PM
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35. TWO count of Perjury!
YES!!!

:happydance:

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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 PM
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20. Let the pardon countdown begin!
Son like father!

A true Bush legacy. (The true Nixon legacy "reward our friends and punish our enemies)
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:13 PM
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21. FINALLY
NOW will he start talking....I hope, I hope????

:bounce: :toast:
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #21
268. I kinda hope
he sings like a canary, that would be music to my ears....
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:14 PM
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22. It's Fitzmas! It's Fitzmas!!!!!!!
Justice is served!!!!!!!
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gratefultobelib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:14 PM
Original message
I can hear all of you whoopin' and hollerin'!!! I wish we could have a group hug. Woooooooooooo!!!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:18 PM
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38. Here's a group hug for everyone.
:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #38
92. YES!
YES!:toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #92
203. Welcome to DU!
What a nice day to bow in, 'eh?

Glad you're here! You're just in time to join the celebration!
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:14 PM
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23. CNN link: 'Scooter' Libby guilty on four counts
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:16 PM by Eugene
'Scooter' Libby guilty on four counts
POSTED: 12:10 p.m. EST, March 6, 2007

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
• NEW: Libby guilty on four of five counts
• Jury in 10th day of deliberation
• President Dick Cheney's ex-aide accused of perjury and obstruction of justice

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby has been
found guilty on four of five counts in his perjury and obstruction of justice trial.

Libby, 56, faces a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison and a fine of $1 million.

The five-count indictment against the former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney
alleges perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements to the FBI and a
grand jury investigating how Valerie Plame was outed as a CIA operative.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/06/cia.leak/index.html

...and justice is served. :toast: :bounce:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #23
108. Just a one million dollar fine?
Heck,the oil corps., can raise the price of oil just one penny for one minute of the day, and make that up.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #108
234. Hopefully Wilson and Plame will clean him out....
in the civil trial. Ruin the bastard, just like he ruined Plame's life and the lives of everyone connected with her CIA operations.
I'd like to see the asshole walking around the street with a barrel around him, just like in the cartoons. Penniless, destitute, humiliated and ostracized. A living, breathing pariah that no one will ever again aid or comfort. And that would be TOO GOOD for the traitorous son of a bitch. :mad:

Now, on to his evil overlords, Cheney and Bush.
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Desert Liberal Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #234
247. Hell yes! Motioned and seconded!
My only comment is

"NEXT"

:evilgrin:




Wave bye-bye boys!

:toast: :party: :toast: :party: :toast:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #23
115. give CNN your comment on the verdict on Libby
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:31 PM
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210. Here's mine to CNN: Impeach!
President Bush promised several times on television that whoever leaked this information to the press would be fired.

Since we now know that Bush and Cheney and Libby and other high ranking officials were the leakers, shouldn't the entire administration be impeached?

If this interferance with an investigation can land a man in jail, certainly lying to the country about the false evidence used to take us into war is an impeachable offence.

Justice won't be served until the man who told Libby to leak and lie is impeached.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:14 PM
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24. Now I wonder when we'll hear how Long he'll stay in jail or if Stupid will
give him a pardon.

Question...If he receives a fine...which he will...Will he still have to pay the fine if he gets a pardon?
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:19 PM
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40. You know dimson is going to pardon him.
He took one for "the team".
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:23 PM
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52. Why not pardon him before then?
They could have done it between Christmas & New Year's and nobody would have noticed...

They could have done it after the original indictment...

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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:26 PM
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61. I don't think Libby will get a pardon....
...because Rove hated him to begin with and then the defense tried to point a finger at Rove? Ummmm...Rove IMO will do EVERYTHING possible to block a pardon by Bush.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:52 PM
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89. They have to worry that Libby might sing, though
Who knows what Libby might have on Bush, Rove, Cheney, etc.?

I always assume that's the main reason for pardons.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:41 PM
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194. I hope you're right, but fear you're wrong
If he doesn't get a pardon, he could turn on the lot of 'em. Pardon him and he's guaranteed to stay quiet, at least for a couple years.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:19 PM
Original message
jeffrey tubin on cnn said he'll probably get 18-24 months n/t
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #24
231. Jail? Pardon? Nah, they'll suicide him..... then he can't sing (n/m)
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Desert Liberal Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #231
248. And you've hit the nail on the head. n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:15 PM
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25. The game's afoot now, as far as a Libby pardon goes
I can't imagine Bush leaving Libby twisting in the wind. Then there is Cheney, who suddenly has a blood clot...

Things could get very interesting.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:16 PM
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30. Tony Snow due to brief WH press
LOL should be interesting. Love to hate that a*hole
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #25
211. Amazing-Tha blood clot showing up 24 hours before the verdict.
Seems the only thing this "gang that couldn't shoot straight" is good at is timing.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:15 PM
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26. Club Fed Welcomes Mr. Scooter n/t
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:15 PM
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27. breaking on yahoo-Scooter Libby found guilty in 4 of 5 counts CIA leak case nt
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070306/ts_alt_afp/afpentertainmentusbush_070306153959

http://news.yahoo.com/ (9:13)
Breaking News
Libby guilty of 4 out of 5 charges

Enlarge Photo
Reuters
AP - 2 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.




(9:14)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cia_leak_trial;_ylt=Aj58rQIUTJW1Ge8B2AXakMus0NUE

Breaking News:
Scooter Libby found guilty in 4 of 5 counts in CIA leak case (AP) » Read more

Libby found guilty in CIA leak case
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers 1 minute ago
WASHINGTON - Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI in an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.



Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters.

He was acquitted of one count of lying to the FBI.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:15 PM
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28. Drudge says GUILTY, underneath has story on Cheney's clot.
About how it might force him to step down.

How convenient. I'll bet it's getting worse right now. :sarcasm:
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #28
42. Probably not..not unusual on long airplane rides..probably a non starter.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #42
214. Before the end of his term, you're going to have to pry Dick's hands
off of the door of The Presidency (yeah "The" not "Vice").

Cheney is addicted to power and will NOT give any up until he's forced out of office.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #42
218. Cheney has a deep clot
more indicative of his entire body being clogged up.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:54 PM
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202. How convenient, indeed. It might give him a cosmetic "out" though.
But then, he'd probably wind up needing a pardon at some point, hmmmmmm? Because if he's no longer a sitting VP, does he still get that level of "protection"? Because he would be CITIZEN cheney at that point. NOT some exalted uber-executive. Does it make him less of a presumed "untouchable"?

And if scooter does get pardoned - I read comments here such that a pardon would remove all 5th amendment protections from libby, so he'd HAVE to sing like Pavaroti if hauled in before a Patrick Fitzgerald type again. Is that true? The speculation was about that being a reason why it would not pay for bush to pardon him. I'm not a legal eagle. Anybody know?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:44 PM
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226. Maybe Cheney will do an "Agnew" and plead "nolo contendre"?
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:20 PM
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258. I believe it works this way
Once pardoned, you can't do any jail time or be fined. Since you can't do jail time or be fined or punished then you can not incriminate yourself.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:15 PM
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29. This will make my day!!!
Wonder how the fundies will spin this one - This is old news -
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:48 PM
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85. Faux News is crying foul
Spinning like a top...the jury was 1) confused 2) clueless and 3) stoopid. It was Joe Wilson's "lies" that poor little Scooter was responding to...
Well, you get the picture.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:58 PM
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93.  Uh, oh, the Jurors aren't playing along...
A white, middle-aged, well-spoken Juror is explaining clearly and concisely how they reached their decision. Not helping the RW image of ignorant, poor, black, DC juries...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:36 PM
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191. Fuck faux "Fox" news, Libby needs to receive the maximum sentence and fines
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:59 PM
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204. Now, THIS would be a good day for them to revert back to
wall-to-wall coverage of Anna Nicole Smith! You'll probably see brit hume crying in his beer on next Sunday's Pox Noise Sunday show that the biggest problem here is how it's making the White House look bad. Just like he said the Walter Reed scandal has. :eyes:
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:16 PM
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31. Excellent - Let the justice begin !!!
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petepillow Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:16 PM
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32. Libby's first words upon hearing the verdict...
"Pardon Me?"
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Skarbrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:20 PM
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41. Ha!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #32
65. LOL!
:rofl:
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vietnam_war_vet Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:47 PM
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84. Pardon by Bush....is there much doubt if Libby's verdict is upheld?
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:51 PM by vietnam_war_vet
I'm not trying to rain on this parade, but as several other DU'ers have already mentioned, a presidential pardon of Libby by Bush is an almost certainty if attorney Wells' legal maneuvers would somehow fail (Wells just stated on CNN that he has already formally requested a new trial and if the new trial is denied, then an appeal will be made).

Additionally, all Wells and his staff has to do is to delay finalization of this process via legal maneuvers until after the November 2008 election -- all the while Libby remains free -- and then Bush can slam the door on justice with his presidential pardon. What a friggin' joke.

Bush doesn't give a flying frig about what our nation's citizens think of him. He sees himself as totally above the law and moral and ethical standards simply don't apply to him. Libby and any other future Bush administration personnel who are also found guilty prior to Bush leaving office WILL be pardoned by Bush prior to his leaving the presidency.

And for that reason, I don't foresee Libby or any other future Bush administration personnel ever cooperating with the prosecution. I also foresee Libby and any other future convicted Bush administration personnel never serving any prison time. -- Michael
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:57 PM
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269. I think you're right
libby and his lawyers will keep the case in the courts with appeals, etc. until Jan. 2009 when bush will issue the pardon.

He'll never see the inside and will be well paid for his silence (omerta). Just like a Mafia movie...
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:35 PM
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213. ROFL!
:rofl:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:17 PM
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34. KUDOS TO FITZIE! If he ever runs for office he'll get my vote 100%
Balls of steel.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:18 PM
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36. HARDCORE!!!
:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:

http://rog.thoughtbludgeon.com/mp3/tracker2.asp?trackURL=RoG_Hardcore_Produktionz-18_Minutes_of_HARDCORE.mp3

:headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang::headbang:
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:18 PM
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37. Hooray ! Now Cheney should be indicted for treason
for outing Plame. Jr. too.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:18 PM
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39. Link to BBC News breaking :
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swimboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:21 PM
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47. The aspens are connected at the roots.
:thumbsup:
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:27 PM
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259. They certainly are. And I want to see the whole damned * forest come down!
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:22 PM
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48. About. Damned. Time...
...SOMEONE in this most corrupt administration was held accountable for SOMETHING.

Hope it's the start of getting even bigger fish caught in the net.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:22 PM
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49. GREAT!!!!!
:bounce: :party:

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Castleman Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:22 PM
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50. Great!!!!!!
Can we hang the son of a bitch now???
OR, as much as I hate it, set him free IF he squeals on his boss and give Fitz enough to send Cheney to prison.
I'd have NO problem letting Libby walk then...plus, it would encourage the rest of the Bush criminal cartel to start squealing if they know they might get off by sending the higher ups to jail!
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ourvoicescount Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:09 PM
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100. Could not agree more!!!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #50
239. Welcome to DU!
Good day to join the discussion and the celebration. I just hope it doesn't end with this.
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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:22 PM
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51. woooooo!!!
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:23 PM
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53. Woooooooooo damn hoooooooooo!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:24 PM
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56. from msnbc article...
  • Obstruction of Justice: GUILTY
  • False statements to FBI investigators (about Russert conversation): GUILTY
  • False statement to FBI investigators (about Cooper conversation): NOT GUILTY
  • Perjury to the Grand Jury (about Tim Russert conversation): GUILTY
  • Perjury to the Grand Jury (about the Matt Cooper conversation): GUILTY


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:24 PM
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57. He he he! Wikipedia already updated
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #57
67. Libby is in Conservapedia... check this out
Under "jury trial"

http://www.conservapedia.com/Jury_trial

Here are the list of influential jury trials affecting American history:

  1. William Penn (1670)
  2. John Peter Zenger (1735)
  3. Boss Tweed (1873)
  4. Sacco & Vanzetti (1921)
  5. John Scopes (1925)
  6. Colonel Billy Mitchell (1925)
  7. Alger Hiss (1949)
  8. O. J. Simpson (two trials)
  9. "Scooter" Libby (2007)


<snip>

9. In 2007, vice-presidential aide Lewis "Scotter" Libby was accused of perjury for lying to a grand jury hearing testimony about the "leak" that resulted in revealing the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame. (It is important to note that he was not accused of illegally revealing the identity of Plame, potentially a much serious charge if he had deliberately revealed her as a CIA agent while knowing her identity was covert; in fact this was shown to be a non-issue). Like the Clinton impeachment trial years earlier, the charge was lying to a grand jury over a matter that was not in itself illegal. The jury verdict will tell much about the responsibility and immunity of the executive branch.


So they're comparing Scooter to the Big Dog now.

Somebody tell the Freepers that s) Clinton wasn't convicted, and b) it's not Clinton's fault the prosecuting attorney used a deliberately vague term to ask about sex!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #67
99. Its the Trial of the Century
Its a helluva wonderful moment...
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #67
107. conservapedia is so laughably sad
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #107
109. Yes, did you know the Equal Rights Amendment was judicial activism?
That durn Supreme Court amended the Constitution all on their own...

:rofl:
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daveskilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #109
278. try doing searches on simple non political stuff
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 03:16 AM by daveskilt
it either doesn't exist or is horribly oversimplified or incorrect.

right wing world where facts not supporting your opinion just don't exist!

try diebold - no record of this at all

they also claim no pedophiles or wankers - liars :)


on edit: oh try random search. it took 15 clicks to get a page with more than a a one sentence entry and it was the page "The crusades: were they a good thing or a bad thing"

one bark for evil two barks for good presumably

also most of the entries seem to be written by the same three people and are full of typo's
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 05:27 AM
Response to Reply #278
279. I'm thinking we got on it at the dawn of it's existance
it will be fun to watch it grow, like Uncyclopedia.

However, with Uncyclopedia, there is absolutely no pretense or attempt to be anything but ridiculous!

The Ann Coulter article is priceless!

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Evolution
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/George_Dubya_Bush
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Evilution
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Flying_spaghetti_monster
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:25 PM
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58. Justice is served in some small measure
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:25 PM
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59. CHENEY NEXT...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:25 PM
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60. Libby, a man with convictions. Literally. Yeeehaaaw!
May this be the first of a Loooong string of indictments, trials and imprisonments.

Congressional Dems, this is your cue.
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kittenpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:26 PM
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62. At last!!!!!
Finally a little justice.
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E-Z-B Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:27 PM
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63. Anyone know what the losers at freerepublic are saying?
I can't bring myself to go to that website myself.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #63
70. Who cares? I have been to that site for about 10 minutes in the last several years.
It's like peering into the enemy camp.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:35 PM
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77. I donned the hazmat suit and went there....
Same old, same old. Can he appeal? References to Sandy "Burgler," Bill and Hill (natch), justice denied, should have just kept his mouth shut, gets convicted for having a bad memory...and so it goes.

IOW, just the same old crying in their beers when one of their own gets busted, and deservedly so.

It just sucks to be a freeper today.

:D
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Joffan Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:38 PM
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80. Here's a sample of freepthink...
From the first thread I found over on the dark side:
- Going to prision becuase you don't have a perfect memory
- I'd like to see a re-trial, with a FAIR jury
- Bush should pardon him and give the Left the finger.
- Libby found Guilty of... speaking the name of an insignificant CIA desk jockey?

plus there was some stuff I didn't understand about Clinton as usual.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:45 PM
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83. Welcome to DU, Joffan!
:hi:
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E-Z-B Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:06 PM
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206. Thanks everyone!
These posts just make my day. :rofl:

:toast:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #63
81. Losts of blood, trace of gray matter on the walls
Head exploding left and right, but let's face it, not much gray matter to explode outwards...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1796101/posts

Of course, it's the activist corrupt liberal judicial system full of ultra-liberal DC residents that's the problem, not Scooter lying.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:27 PM
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64. This guilty charge should make it much easier for the Wilsons to sue Libby in their civil trial.
So even if Stupid pardons him...the Wilsons can make the little Weasel's life painful and miserable! :) :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:29 PM
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66. did the tip of the iceberg just crack and fall off?
Stop children what's that sound everyone look what's going down!

:woohoo:

:dem: :kick:
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #66
230. No the tip just started....
to scrape the administrations ship of state aka Titanic
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:29 PM
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68. Excellent!!!!!
Runaway librul juries!!
Up next - Cheney, bring him on.
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Maryland Liberal Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:31 PM
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69. We all Know the Bushie will Pardon Him
UNLESS - he is not in office. IMPEACH the bushie - NOW - let justice be done.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:32 PM
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73. I got my IMPEACH bumper sticker yesterday in Portland, OR.
Thanks to everyone!
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:32 PM
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71. I got my head checked, By a jumbo jet, It wasn't easy, But nothing is no. . . .
Woo Hoo!!!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #71
75. A reporter just yelled at Libby - "Are you willing to go to jail to
protect the Vice President?" It sounded like David Shuster.
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josewelder Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:32 PM
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72. Just say no to Impunity
This is great news for the USA.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:33 PM
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74. i needed some good news today. (eom)
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:34 PM
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76. Ha! Ha! Ha! Libby's lawyer asking higher court to over rule and
he's going to prove Libby innocent! What a joke! These people live in their own little make believe world. :rofl:
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UCLA Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:36 PM
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78. Yay!!
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:38 PM
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79. Merry Fitzmas!!!
It's Fitzmas in March!!!!
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:42 PM
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82. Scooter's freedom
is in its last throes!
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:49 PM
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86. If he's pardoned, can he still plead the 5th?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I think he should rot in jail, but, if he were pardoned, wouldn't Fitz (or Congress, assuming they have the mettle) be able to subpoena him to testify against the Big Dick? And with so much evidence in the record, it would be hard for him to lie. Since he couldn't place himself in legal jeopardy, wouldn't he *have* to testify???

If so, I'm sure Dick and Shrub will let him rot. Their fanatic loyalty is one-way only.

Still, happy day!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

:woohoo: :woohoo:
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:25 PM
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209. If pardoned, he wouldn't be able to be tried for his original lies again.
But he would be fully indictable on any NEW lies that he told on the stand of a Chenney trial. Can you plea the fifth if you can no longer be charged about the crime?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:33 PM
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224. Now you're talking immunized testimony, not a pardon
Immunizing testimony is done before the trial begins. It's done if the prosecutor knows you're a scumbag, but you carry information that can help lock up worse/higher-level scum than yourself. The tradeoff is that you must then be completely honest with the prosecution--but OTOH, if you can't get in trouble for your testimony, there's no real reason to lie.

This is why Bush, for instance, would never receive immunity: there's no such thing as a bigger fish than Bush, and any prosecutor worthy of the name knows Bush is genetically incapable of telling the truth. If Bush tells you the sky is blue, go outside and look up because knowing him, it's probably green.

Pardons do one of two things: either stop prosecution of a person, or overturn any guilty verdicts that may have been entered against him. As far as I know, they don't protect someone from having to testify against someone else.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:49 PM
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87. Will he roll on Cheney for a reduce sentence?
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BLUEBOY Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:51 PM
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88. IMPEACH BUSH before he can pardon the criminals!!!
We need to push for impeachment before Bush can let Libby off the hook. Impeachment is back on the table!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:01 PM
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96. Impeachment was never on the table to begin with
As Pelosi, Conyers, and Kucinich made it clear prior to the elections.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:27 PM
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283. Oh Yee of Little Faith
Don't piss on our parade. Think good thoughts.

Just imagine how well we can bottle them up with investigations and then bringing forth articles of impeachment.

Politically, you don't start right up with the "I" word, you build the case and the public cry for impeachment then do it...

At the very least, wide circulation of the neo-con crimes may deter voters from voting repuke for a while. That's worth something...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:56 PM
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90. BbbaaaaaaaaBouuuuuuuHA!!!
:woohoo:
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:56 PM
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91. Member of Jury now speaking outside court...
Key component was testimony about Russert
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 12:59 PM
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94. Russert is so credible compared to that sleeze Libby.
Libby oozes sleeze and priviledge. He could have just said "no," to Cheney and not commnitted a crime. It was his choice. He deserves more than 4. He deserves all 5.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:09 PM
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101. Now Russert has learned how to do a grueling cross-examination..
If he could bring himself to use that approach with his GOP guests on MTP!

"Libby told investigators he learned of Plame's identity from NBC reporter Tim Russert, saying that he'd forgotten at the time he talked to the reporter that he'd been told of it earlier by Cheney.

Russert testified he never told Libby about Wilson's wife, and underwent a grueling cross-examination as Libby's legal team tried to discredit Russert's testimony."

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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:00 PM
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95. Paddy Fitz hits one out of the park!
Who's with me on sending The Washington Post a huge crate of dressed crow for them to eat after all their whingeing about this case? Sit down and dine, Donald Graham!!!!!!
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:01 PM
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97. Is it too late for Libby to roll over on his bosses?
25 years is a long time, and facing a sentence like that would make most people want to rat out anyone else involved if it meant getting a significant reduction.
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:04 PM
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98. Fitzgerald said no continuing investigation, "but if information comes our way..."
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:09 PM
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102. I wonder if Detroit news will cover this, it's not quite as interesting as a headless torso
The Detroit media has been covering the Tara Grant murder case nonstop. They'll likely break into a show to announce what color underwear she was wearing at the time of death.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:36 PM
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190. You got that right, noonwitch
I start my day at the Detroit News website and, for the last week, it's been nothing except National Enquirer-level "reporting" on The Missing/Dead White Suburban Woman. Pretty sad (the paper, the story and the coverage).
John
I read the (admittedly conservative) News because my Uncle Joe was circulation manager there for some number of years in the forties and fifties. It's a family tradition.
Don't forget that FUNDAY XIII is coming June 16.
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:09 PM
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103. Well, it's about time
That's all I have to say. Plenty of work still to be done
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:11 PM
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104. Tough year for republicans LOL! n/t
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:12 PM
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105. ooooh!
someone's not gonna be happy! for he knows he's next!!

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- new 08 stickers & Anti-bush/coulter/cheney
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:13 PM
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106. Woohoo!!!
:woohoo:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:20 PM
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110. First, I want to acknowledge that I was WRONG. I had no faith
in the system whatsoever and I sold Fitzgerald short, I didn't think he'd be able to get a conviction.

I would like to say that a lot of my doubts were because of the makeup of the jury. I need to have more faith in my fellow Americans maybe? But after the past eight years it's damn hard.

If he gets a pardon I won't be too upset. That won't erase his conviction.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:33 PM
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117. Fitzgiven
:toast:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:06 PM
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265. no worries.
:)
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:31 PM
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284. I'm afraid a pardon DOES erase a conviction
The fix is in though.

He'll stall the sentencing. Then he'll appeal for a new trial. Then he'll appeal the decision.

And then, in January of 2009, Nixon (ooops, sorry, bush) will pardon him along with a bunch of others.

And he'll make BIG BUCKS at some corporation and with his book deal.

And next repuke administration, he'll be there just as rummy, cheney, powell, negroponte and the rest of the ray-gun/bush criminals were.

Or maybe he'll get a talk show like that fuck oliver north...

Anyhoo, whatever he wants he'll get. Omerta -- the code of silence...
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lies and propaganda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:20 PM
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111. MERRY FITZMAS TO ALL!!!


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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:16 PM
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221. Great pics! Thanks!!! eom
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:22 PM
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113. Let's see what happens....
1) Presidential Pardon

2) Spills Beans, cuts a deal, ends up dying in a plane crash or a sudden illness before he can testify.

I seriously doubt he'll see a jail cell.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:29 PM
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114. Yo, Monkey Boy - can you spell: P.A.R.D.O.N.?
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 01:29 PM by Seabiscuit
And Cheney, of course, gets off scott free.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:32 PM
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116. like John Dean said, start off with someone small and work
your way up the chain of command. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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118. Maximum of 25 years in prison and $1 million fine, the judge should
...throw the book at Libby and let him squeal like a trapped rat on Cheney and Bush and Rove and the whole crooked bunch.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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119. 'Scooter' Libby guilty on four counts (CNN) actual article
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/06/cia.leak/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby has been found guilty on four of five counts in his perjury and obstruction of justice trial.

Libby, 56, faces a maximum sentence of 25 years in prison and a fine of $1 million.

The five-count indictment against the former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney alleges perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements to the FBI and a grand jury investigating how Valerie Plame was outed as a CIA operative.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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120. YES YES YES YES YES!
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:14 PM by redqueen
Now roll that scumbag!

hehehehe
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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121. Great job, Fitz!
Now on to Cheney ... :evilgrin:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #119
122. excellent news
everytime I see it. :D

K&R
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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123. To be sentenced June 5th.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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125. Fox News banner- Obstruction, PErjury, Lying to FBI
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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124. Will the prosecutor be fired now that the trial is over???? n/t
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lse7581011 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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126. Can't Help Find It Amusing
neither fox nor drudge has details yet!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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127. hahahahahaha... glorious
Enjoyin the view from way up in your rear ends, wingers?

:rofl:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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135. Drudge has it now "Washington Rocked..."
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:30 PM by underpants
http://www.drudgereport.com/




LIBBY GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:58 PM
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217. Please don't "dirty up the place" by site referencing Roves sycophant's Website?
Remember fellow DUers, every time you click on the Matt Drudge's smarmy site, an Rovarian Hell's anger gets its wings. :evilgrin:
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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128. "Libby found guilty in CIA leak case" yahoo article at about 9:15
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:23 PM by fed-up
looks like they didn't have much of a prewritten story ready-did they think he would get off scott free??

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070306/ts_alt_afp/afpente...

http://news.yahoo.com / (9:13)
Breaking News
Libby guilty of 4 out of 5 charges

Enlarge Photo
Reuters
AP - 2 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.




(9:14)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cia_leak_trial ;_ylt=Aj58rQIUTJW1Ge8B2AXakMus0NUE

Breaking News:
Scooter Libby found guilty in 4 of 5 counts in CIA leak case (AP) » Read more

Libby found guilty in CIA leak case
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers 1 minute ago
WASHINGTON - Former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted Tuesday of obstruction, perjury and lying to the FBI in an investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.



Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters.

He was acquitted of one count of lying to the FBI.
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REACTIVATED IN CT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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129. K & R n/t
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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130. Keith picked the wrong week to vacation.
Damn, I wish he was on tonight.

Jon & Colbert will be special tonight though.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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132. UPDATE on the charges (he beat the Miller charge)
Libby was convicted of:


obstruction of justice when he intentionally deceived a grand jury investigating the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame;


making a false statement by intentionally lying to FBI agents about a conversation with NBC newsman Tim Russert;


perjury when he lied in court about his conversation with Russert;


a second count of perjury when he lied in court about conversations with other reporters.

Jurors cleared him of a second count of making a false statement relating to a conversation he had with Matt Cooper of Time magazine.

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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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131. update-"Libby had little reaction to the verdict. He stood expressionless"
9:23 update
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cia_leak_trial;_ylt=Ar2wyk2FiSfeny.2tOSiXFus0NUE

Breaking News:
Scooter Libby found guilty on 4 of 5 counts in CIA leak case (AP) » Read more

Libby found guilty in CIA leak trial



By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers 1 minute ago
WASHINGTON -
snip


Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was accused of lying and obstructing the investigation into the 2003 leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity to reporters.
snip

Libby had little reaction to the verdict. He stood expressionless as the jury left the room.

The verdict was read on the 10th day of deliberations. Libby faces up to 30 years in prison, though under federal sentencing guidelines likely will receive far less.

U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton ordered a pre-sentencing report be completed by May 15. Judges use such reports to help determine sentences.

snip
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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134. he just walked out of the court looking in the sky....not sure if he was looking for snipers or what
it was strange. They are going to fill for appeal and go all the way to the SCOTUS. Wonder when * will pardon him?
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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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133. how soon before the pardon?
I hope they can get the little shit to rat on his boss, the DICK, before bushler can rescue him.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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136. Sweet justice
I say give him time and the full fine of $1 million. Money is the only thing they understand anyway.
:applause: :bounce:

Sonia
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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137. MSNBC: Breaking - A Verdict In Libby Trial ....nt
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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138. When's it going to be delivered?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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140. Verdict in Libby case expected around noon ET.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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141. Thanks! n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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139. Pins and Needles!!!!!!!!!!!!!
n/t
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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142. FITZMAS at noon!!!
Delicious.

More indictments to follow?

US Attorneys fired for political reasons?

Are the wheels coming off yet?
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djg21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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160. Perhaps this explains Cheney's Clot . . .
and the questions in the media as to whether Cheney will be stepping down.

I predict that if there is an indictment, Cheney will go. That being said, I think the fact that the jury has been out so long together with their questions re: reasonable doubt are troubling and may suggest an acquittal. I hope that I am wrong.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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143. I predict he walks
But I'll be happy to be wrong and eat crow.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #143
146. I hope you like crow.
Cuz, fortunately, you will be eating it.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #146
177. Happy to do so
I'll take well done please.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #177
183. You got it.
I'll do my best to make it palatable. :hi:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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144. Mods, the various threads should be combined. nt
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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145. Great!
I set my vcr to start recording at the perfect time. :bounce: I hope the jury vote GUILTY!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:34 PM
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147. "A verdict has been reached in the CIA leak trial...
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 11:53 AM by HuffleClaw
...of former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. The verdict is expected to be read in the courtroom at 12 p.m. ET."


"The jury has reached a verdict in the perjury and obstruction trial of Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

The verdict will be read at noon, court officials said.

Libby, 56, faces a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison and a fine of $1.25 million if convicted.

A five-count indictment against Cheney's aide alleges perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements to the FBI and a grand jury investigating how Valerie Plame was outed as a CIA operative."



(added story on edit)
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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148. Dum dum DUUUUUMM!!!!!
:popcorn:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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149. Ah, so THAT'S why I woke up an hour early!
To see your message and the verdict!

God must love me!
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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150. I say they declare him innocent of all charges . (1143 ET)
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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151. I think they split, guilty on false statements, not guilty on perjury
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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152. Longest 15 minutes of my life to go LOL
:popcorn:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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153. So, what will the stock market do?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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154. Given some of the questions the jury has been asking, I'm expecting to be disappointed.
There's a story on MSNBC claiming the jury was asking for clarification of whether Libby was accused of lying to the FBI about what he told Matt Cooper, or of lying to Matt Cooper, or of not knowing that Plame was a CIA agent when he claimed she was. Doesn't give me a lot of hope about their level of competence. Hopefully they were only trying to convince one juror of what everyone else understood, but still worries me.

Hopefully my expectations of disappointment will be disappointed. :)
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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156. Same here
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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159. It seemed to me that they were trying to convince a holdout or two
In my mind, it is more likely those holdouts were for innocent rather than guilty. Sounds like the holdouts were convinced. If it were the opposite, I don't believe a couple of people would hang out for guilty when everybody else said innocent.
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MarinCoUSA Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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155. And if Guilty, then Guilty = Pardon. Let the pardon countdown begin
And the press will hammer Dim Son 24/7 about it.

Ah, yes. California Dreamin'.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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157. Hope Libby gets to spend at least one day in jail before his pardon! nt
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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158. Update: Anna Nicole Smith still dead and buried
Didn't want all this critical national political news to detract from that fact!

:evilgrin:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #158
164. But what about Britney and the '666' she wrote on her scalp before she tried to hang herself?!
That's the important stuff!!!

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #164
182. No no, that was a Greek "&#948;". She was expanding her mind...
It was just mis-reported, doncha know...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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170. guily on 4 of 5!!!!
Woo-hoo!!!

:woohoo:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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161. Wonder how long before we see the yellow X's
:)
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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163. Heh. This place is going to go code red, that's for sure. n/t
:-)
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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162. Okay it's noon by my computers clock, whats the verdict???? LOL nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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165. **chirp**chirp**chirp**
(crickets)
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
166. GUILTY!!!!
WOOHOO!!
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footinmouth Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #166
167. Yee Ha!!!!!
4 out of 5 counts. I'll take it! Oh happy day.
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BobMorr Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #166
172. 4 counts-GUILTY
YES!!
4 of 5 counts-GUILTY
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #166
173. It 's about time someone in the Bush mafia gets nailed for lying about such a serious...
offence.

I was way off base on this one.

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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
168. 4 out of 5....
Not bad....
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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169. This is AWFULLY quick following that note, in the grand scheme of things
Speculation was that there was a 'reasonable doubt' holdout, unsure of the definition.

Then some thought the jury was hung, but there was no Allen charge.

It could well be that the doubtful juror/jurors had their concerns assuaged so they were able to render a decision.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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171. GUILTY!!!!!!!!!! Obstruction and lying... GUILTY!!!!! NT
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
174. Do Not Pass Go. Go Directly to Jail.
Scooter's a funny name...
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
175. Wow. I guess the teflon has worn off.
n/t
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BobMorr Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
176. could be facing 25 yrs!!
I HOPE!!
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
178. Breaking News GUILTY
yes yes yes yes
:kick:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #178
179. 4 out of 5 counts
Let's hope this leads to more investigations.
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Jacklyn75 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #178
180. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!! n/t
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
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184. How does this affect other investigations within the asylum formerly known as the White House?
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #178
181. Great news!
The Skin
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
185. Sentencing set for June 5
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 12:19 PM by Mr. Jinx
Libby's attorney has already asked for an extension (per CNN).
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #137
186. Freepers exploding :-)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1796122/posts

To: John Jorsett
Bloody Washington DC juries.



2 posted on 03/06/2007 9:10:41 AM PST by ModelBreaker


To: John Jorsett
Another example of the current/corrupt judicial system!!!



3 posted on 03/06/2007 9:11:48 AM PST by JLGALT (Don't put down Muslims. They're just like everyone else - if everyone else is a mass murderer!)


To: John Jorsett
Unbelievable. Just goes to show, don't trust your fate to a Bush hating, D.C. jury.

And the judge wouldn't even let the jury know whether or not Valerie was covert or not. I hope Scooter appeals.



4 posted on 03/06/2007 9:11:57 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (My Number One Goal in Life is to Leave a Bigger Carbon Foot Print Than Al Gore)


To: John Jorsett
A DC jury.Gee,what a surprise.
Mr President,it's time for you to step up to the plate.


5 posted on 03/06/2007 9:12:10 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)


The Moderator over there moved this thread, but you get the idea...
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #186
188. "And the judge wouldn't even let the jury know
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 01:22 PM by tenshi816
whether or not Valerie was covert or not. I hope Scooter appeals."

Heh. The judge didn't tell the jury because it was immaterial to the charges against Libby, so I'm not sure exactly what that freeper feels Scooter's grounds for appeal are.

In any case, I just heard Fitz say unequivocally that Plame was definitely a covert operative. The way he stated it left no room for doubt.

OT a little bit, I'm currently watching Scooter's lawyer on MSNBC - is it just me, or does he seem all over the place speaking? Fitz's press conference was concise and to the point, but this guy just seems to be rambling. Like I said, maybe it's just me.

Oh, happy day!

EDITED TO ADD: Silly me, I think the guy that's "rambling" was a juror! Giving myself a mental head slap now for not paying attention...
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:19 PM
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257. "And the judge wouldn't even let the jury know whether or not Valerie was covert or not."
Outing a CIA agent - ANY CIA agent - is a direct violation of the Intelligence Identities and Protection Act (1947, 1982). To wit (from the 1982 Act):


TITLE 50--WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE

CHAPTER 15--NATIONAL SECURITY

SUBCHAPTER IV--PROTECTION OF CERTAIN NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION

Sec. 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources

(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had access to classified information that identifies covert agent

Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(b) Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of covert agents as result of having access to classified information

Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified information, learns the identify of a covert agent and intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $25,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

(c) Disclosure of information by persons in course of pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents

Whoever, in the course of a pattern of activities intended to identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United States, discloses any information that identifies an individual as a covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such individual and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such individual's classified intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $15,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(July 26, 1947, ch. 343, title VI, Sec. 601, as added June 23, 1982,
Pub. L. 97-200, Sec. 2(a), 96 Stat. 122.)


Link:
http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/protection.html

Link to the original 1947 Act:
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/laws/iipa.html



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rep the dems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #186
222. Ah yes, conservative enemy numer 1: That damn librul media.
Followed closely by the Constitution and equal rights.
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Hunky Dunky Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #119
187. Haha!!! Yesssssssss!!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:50 PM
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289. Justice be damned!
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:40 PM
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192. Pardon Me, Mr. President!
Here's the party line: "Libby is guilty of a faulty memory--is that a crime worthy of prison time?" Rove laments that Anna Nicole Smith had but one life to tie up the news channels to mask all the bad news emanating from this administration.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:40 PM
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193. Awesome! Woo Hoo!
Now who get's nailed next? :evilgrin:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:41 PM
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195. Good...
:woohoo:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:44 PM
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196. Remarkable.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:44 PM
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197. I'm almost sorry for Libby and a bit disappointed in Fitzgerald
Libby's the sacrificial lamb IMHO. Fitz could've gotten more IMHO, probably up to at least Cheney. Maybe he will fool me and go after more, but if Libby is it, I'm certainly estatic that one member got taken down, but Rove and Cheney and perhaps Bush as well should be joining him!
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Ex Lion Tamer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #197
223. I, too, wish for that, but . . .
remember that Fitzgerald's entire premise for this prosecution was that Libby's lies made it impossible to learn the truth about what really happened.

Fitzgerald (admirably, in my opinion), conservatively chose to stick with what he could prove rather than to over reach.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #197
241. There's a lot of irrational exuberance here
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 05:47 PM by MilesColtrane
Cheney's plan worked perfectly.

Libby's lies blocked Fitzgerald from prosecuting for the leak. Fitz said as much before the trial. He has also said the investigation is now over.

In the end, treasonous criminals still squat in our White House, and their pigeon will be pardoned to write a book about his "persecution". The subsequent talk show, book tour, and speaking circuit will make it a bestseller and I. Lewis will more than recoup his legal fees and fine.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #241
275. Nah
Cheney is dead meat.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #197
285. Libby is a typical
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 10:37 PM by ProudDad
upper class fuck. Just like bush -- born on third base and thinks he hit a triple. They think of themselves as the anointed ones, the special class, the privileged and their shit don't stink.

I don't feel sorry for him at all.

I feel sorry for us.

We're the ones whose rights are being violated.
We're the ones whose Constitution is being shredded.
We're the ones whose tax dollars are going for the evil these bastards love so much...

Please don't waste any emotion on this piece of shit... :hi:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:44 PM
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198. 'AHEM'
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaa, haaaaa haaaa haaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!! Yeeee hee hee heh heh 'gasp gasp'

Hoooooooooooo hooooo hooooo haaaaa!!!!!! 'gasp caugh wheeze' Haaaa, hahahahahaha 'caugh gasp'

You play, you pay. Elitist traitor who thought the law applied to everyone but you and your cronies. Slimy lying bastard!

It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas,
Everywhere you go...

Oh look, you're a liar and it's official. And you can't vote for your neocon pals. Now off to your holding cell with the unwashed masses.

I would pay extra to get a license plate that was made by Libby himself.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:49 PM
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199. And the Freepers
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 01:50 PM by connecticut yankee
are going ballistic!

Good on them.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:50 PM
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200. Now Cheney pulls a William Casey to halt probe and protect guilty W...
Giuliani... or maybe Harriet Miers... will replace Cheney...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 01:54 PM
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201. If he didn't blow the whistle on Cheney, a pardon is pretty much
a given.

I'm sure Libby isn't prepared to do serious time, so he had to have made a deal with Cheney and Chimpy.
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:00 PM
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205. You're all "glass is 4/5ths empty" types. So cynical!
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 02:01 PM by slowry
edit for obvious:

:sarcasm:
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:08 PM
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207. Bwah-ha-HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
Now, let's start rooting for the clot in Darth's leg....
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:09 PM
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208. So, does this mean Libby is the scapgoat and Cheney/Bush/Rove off the hook?
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 02:11 PM by bobbie
"On what should be a day of some satisfaction over the Libby verdict, instead I feel greatly let down by Patrick Fitzgerald.

As reported in an article shown at http://www.huffingtonpost.com

Patrick Fitzgerald has been quoted as stating matter of factly: "I do not expect to file any further charges."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/6/133940/6035


On edit: Added Rove to villains list
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:12 PM
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282. Well, with Nixon, they didn't go directly for him right away
I see this as a drip, drip, drip situation that will lead to Cheney. After that, other things will come out on both Bush and Cheney. Someone needs to pick up where Fitzgerald left off.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:34 PM
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212. What's next after the sentencing?
A Bush pardon? Or does he roll over on Cheney?
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:39 PM
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286. Appeal, appeal, appeal
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 10:40 PM by ProudDad
then pardon...

He won't roll over on cheney -- that would be suicide...


On Edit: It IS great PR for our side though. I'm happy he was convicted...
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:56 PM
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Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 02:57 PM by Aviation Pro
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 02:59 PM
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219. What you said....yuk yuk.
:evilgrin:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:54 PM
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228. Lol!
:D
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:14 PM
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220. So they really found Scooter to be guilty?
Whoa, what a day..

Now let's roll on with Dickhead and Chimpy. Hopefully they will get convicted and won't ever see the light of day.

Blue
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 03:45 PM
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227. Four words: Countdown with Keith Tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's where the best analysis will be.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:57 PM
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251. You can count on me to be watching...come hell or high water!
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potone Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:09 PM
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229. Merry Fitzmas!
Goody, goody,goody,goody,goody,goody,goody!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:37 PM
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233. WOW! Look what you miss when you're working on taxes all afternoon!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:41 PM
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235. Four out of five ain't bad, especially when it comes to this bunch!
CUE THE VONAGE THEME! And good on ya, Fitzie!

:woohoo:
rocknation
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 04:55 PM
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236. WHENS THE HANGING?
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kilaana Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:03 PM
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238. Pop! Pop! Pop!
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 05:03 PM by kilaana
What's that sound, you ask? Why, that's the sound of Freepers' heads exploding! Hop on over there and read for yourself!
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:14 PM
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240. HUZZAH!!!!
Break out the dancing fuzzballs!






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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 06:07 PM
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253. WARNING: This post not recommended for diabetics.

rocknation
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:22 PM
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243. But but but there must be some mistake!
Fitz was on a silly witch hunt! :)
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Limelight Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:25 PM
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244. To quote Lil' Jon...
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAH!!!!

With his punk ass. How's it feel to have your folks hang you out to dry there Scootster?

:party: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :party:
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:32 PM
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246. yes, yes, yes!!!!
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 05:46 PM
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249. What a happy occassion for my 1000th post
Merry Fitzmas. Now that a jury has found that the administration was lying about who knew what when, it makes the intentions clear. We can hope that a new grand jury might be convened for the actual outing.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 06:14 PM
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254. Hey Scooter...
don't drop the soap :evilgrin:
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 06:15 PM
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255. Guess who won't be voting in the next election?
Just in case you can't remembered it Scooter,here is what it looks like:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the republic for which it stands.
One nation,under god,indivisible, with liberty and
JUSTICE for all.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 06:33 PM
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256. Steve walks warily down the street, with his brim pulled way down low...
Ha ha ha! See ya, Scooter, wouldn't want to be ya! :hi:

What a great day for America!!! Merry Fitzmas, everybody!!! :)
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:50 PM
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260. This is Fitzmas? I thought before was Fitzmas...
is there consensus?
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:51 PM
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261. Faux Snooze announced not guilty on the 1 count.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:17 PM
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266. wOOt!
Fitzmas in March! :D
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:11 PM
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270. hell has officially
frozen over........:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :woohoo:
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:13 PM
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271. Send his ass to Gitmo! n/t
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:46 PM
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273. It official...
The Bush Presidency is one of the most corrupt ever.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 11:49 PM
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274. The Democratic Leadership reacts
"The testimony unmistakably revealed - at the highest levels of the Bush administration - a callous disregard in handling sensitive national security information and a disposition to smear critics of the war in Iraq." - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi

- - - - -

"Now President Bush must pledge not to pardon Libby for his criminal conduct." — Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:53 AM
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276. I'd have preferred Pelosi to say
"we will not stop till we investigate all dark clouds
surrounding this administration. and by the way, impeachment is back on the table."

as it is, her very narrowly defined statement, glosses over that while the conviction
was only over lying and obstruction of justice, the larger issue is that the white
house and many of its leaders (rove, cheney, Bush, etc.) were part of treasonous
activities to out a CIA agent during a critical runup to a potential war.

if the CIA is not more than a little vindicated by this, they should be.

CONGRESS Is collectively covering their ass right now and too afraid to say the
really honest things like the juror said, "What about rove, etc.?"

it took an american citizen to say what the fuck the politician asswipes and
media whores could not say.

it sickens me that people are happy with what is now a deadend/inactive investigation
that will certainly result in libby doing not a single day in jail with appeals and other
court maneuvres buying him time till bush pardons him.

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 01:36 AM
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277. Here's a question for the legal eagles out there....
Now that the trial is over, and so apparently is the investigation, will transcripts of the Bush and Cheney interviews be made public?

Fitz, if you really are going back to your day job, at least throw us these bones to enjoy.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 02:35 PM
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280. Justice at last......
I love it!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 02:50 PM
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281. This needs a kick n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:28 AM
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288. Goodbye Yellowcake Road
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