Bill banning most abortions will go to [Mississippi] governor

[Maddy McCall]

A ban on most abortions in Mississippi needs only Gov. Haley Barbour’s signature to become law.

On the recommendation of Senate Public Health and Welfare Chairman Alan Nunnelee, R-Tupelo, senators voted Thursday to concur with changes the House made to Senate Bill 2391. The bill would ban most abortions if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, which allows abortion. Exceptions would be made in cases of rape or if the pregnant woman's life is in danger.

The bill would also require doctors to give a pregnant woman the chance to look at a sonogram and listen to a fetal heartbeat before an abortion. Also, young women seeking abortions without parental consent would be required to get court approval. There was no debate on the Senate floor about the issue.

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070308/NEWS/70308020

[MountainLaurel]

1. Guess they want more dead MS women

Is it likely Barbour will sign this?

[Maddy McCall]

2. I have no doubt that Barbour will sign it.

The evangelicals here are pissed at him for bringing casinos on shore after Katrina and for refusing to do the grocery-tobacco tax swap.

He can make up with them by signing this bill.

Actually, though, we have a pretty strong pro-choice contingent in Mississippi. I don't see this law standing for very long.

[piedmont]

20. What's that about a grocery-tobacco tax swap?

Surely they don't want to tax groceries more and tobacco less, do they? Or is it that Mississippi curently charges too much taxes on groceries and not enough on tobacco?

[Maddy McCall]

24. The latter.

To remove state taxes (7%) on groceries and increase taxes on cigarettes.

The gov won't have it...probably because he's beholden to big tobacco.

[niyad]

3. what a load of woman-hating BS-- the woman is going to be forced to see "a" sonogram --whose,

I wonder? (since the zygote is only a couple of inches in the embryonic stage) and listen to a fetal heartbeat? again, whose I wonder, since the heartbeat can't be heard with a stethoscope until about week 20 (5 months) far past the time abortions are performed.

time to tell MS we won't be visiting this backward state until they come into the 21st century.

[BOSSHOG]

6. I think it would also be appropriate

to put up large pictures of dead and injured U. S. Servicemembers at voting polls and gop meeting throughout the country. I live in Mississippi but I agree with you, there is not much to come here for. The issue that has raged on the coast the past three months is the incredible amount of trash on the coast. Everybody's yapping about but it continues to fly. Infucking credible how trashy these people are.

[Maddy McCall]

8. You live in Louisissippi, dude.

Just like I do. :)

Not that that's a good thing.

This state is in turmoil in many ways. The Toyota factory won't save it.

[BOSSHOG]

9. As I tell anyone who will listen

My head's (and real estate holdings) in Mississippi but my hearts in Louisiana. Thank God we are just an hour to the french quarter. We lived in Slidell but moved here about eight years ago, made a killing in real estate. Kinda good. Our home in Slidell took in six feet of water thanks to Katrina so we dodged a bullet there. We will most likely be leaving when my wife locks down a pension.

[Maddy McCall]

11. I'm an hour from the Quarter, too...

And it is a salvation. But having to drive through the baptist backwoods of Southeast Louisiana to get there isn't fun. I think that the most conservative, evangelical people in the world live along the I-55 corridor in SE LA.

I didn't know that you had only been here 8 years. Please let me and MMjr treat you and your Missus to a meal at Acme or Middendorfs before y'all evacuate the state.

:hug:

[BOSSHOG]

13. That's very kind of you

But it may be a few years. I hit I-59 south at Picayune and go through Slidell (the land of Bobby Jindal.) I really did like living in Slidell though. We still do a lot of commerce in that town although the population has bloomed since the Hurricane. Vic and Natly call it St Tammanard since there are so many St Bernard residents transplanted to St Tammany.

[The Flaming Red Head]

29. Lousy-ana Missis-sloppy and Arkan-sucks n/t

[Maddy McCall]

7. They don't care. Honestly, they'd rather you not visit.

I CARE, but I don't think that they care.

[HockeyMom]

16. Let them show women a 5 week old embryo

Yeah, most women would be horrified. At that stage it looks more amphibian than human - tail and flippers. Will they still try to show this?

I can remember when I was pg my OB/GYN had pix up in his office of very early embryo development. He had pictures up of a pig, chicken, and human embryos at the same stage of development. Honestly, you could not tell which was which.

[donsu]

27. kick

nt

[BOSSHOG]

4. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest

that if this law is passed it will have a greater effect on those in the state who consider themselves "conservatives."

[Maddy McCall]

5. I'll join you on that limb.

;)

[silverlib]

10. This is coming from a state

that in the sixties, many state politicians advocated the sterilization of unwed mothers.

Lord, I miss the writings and music of Phil Ochs.

[Maddy McCall]

12. also...

that in the sixties censored newscasts so that Mississippians would not know what was going on in the world around them.

Mississippi IS a closed society. I don't see it changing any time soon.

[KamaAina]

14. So I take it the recovery efforts are essentially complete

in both MS and LA, since their respective legislatures feel they have free time to deal with hypotheticals like "what if the Extreme Court overturns Roe?" :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Apparently not a great deal has changed in the region since I used to defend clinics -- by myself, at one point -- in NOLA around 1990. The nadir was probably when the LA legislature amended all the language out of -- get this -- a flag-burning bill (!!) and substituted language similar to this!

There was no debate on the Senate floor about the issue.

:wtf:

[BOSSHOG]

15. I recall the flag waving brew-haha

when I lived in St Tammany. It consumed conservatives. It was the only thing that mattered in the universe. Yeah, everything that Katrina effected has been fully restored. Interesting that lil shit bobby jindal has been doing his damndest to be a compassionate democrat every time the cameras are turned on since Katrina.

[Megahurtz]

17. Don't Count On Roe Being Overturned Anytime Soon.

Backwards Idiots.:grr:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

30. Justice Stevens

I suspect that if Justice Stevens retires or passes away while Dubya is still in office Roe v. Wade will be in jeopardy. They already have Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and ScAlito on the Court. Replacing Stevens with a right-winger will give them a majority. :scared:

[flamingyouth]

18. Ugh

Happy Women's Day. x(

[melody]

19. Half of me says "Let the morons do it"

All the educated affluent and middle-class will move (along with the whole tax base) out of the backward states. All that will be left are the poor and the right-wing ignorant population, and since the latter largely creates the former, there will always be more poor people than affluent wingnuts. In the short term, those states will lose tax base and industry (which will need the educated folk to even operate). In the long-term, they will face a social uprising unlike any they've seen before. These Christian tyrannies are stocked with idiots (stoked on by Limbaugh and his ilk) too ignorant to see the moderating base and affluence of the progressives actually support and sustain their cultures. The US south particularly will ultimately lose its culture.

The only reason only half of me says it is that simple compassion would necessitate some kind of underground railroad of the poor to abortion clinics in free states. And that is part of what will trigger a civil war ... which is the aristocracy's whole plan in the first place, imho.

[Recursion]

21. I grew up in Mississippi

and what you're saying is what's happened for, oh, the past 3 decades if not longer. It's like once the power structure lost the segregation fight they lost all interest in anything else.

The Clarion Ledger had a great editorial cartoon when Peyton Manning announced he was going to school outside of MS. It showed a flood of kids labeled "Mississippi's Best and Brightest" flocking past a toll booth with a sleeping guard towards "Out of State Schools". Then Peyton walks by and the guard wakes up and says, "Hey, wait!". Way too true...

[melody]

22. That's why my mom's family left Arkansas, too n/t

[MasonJar]

23. That would be "morans," wouldn't it?

[David__77]

25. Incest is pointedly not an exception.

How appropriate for that state. Oh how I wish it had a black majority. It would be so different then.

[Porcupine]

26. because Missisipi has the BEST schools in the nation

and the best support for single parents. No homeless. No poverty. No child labor or prostitution problems. No meth epidimic.
:sarcasm:

[donsu]

28. if this goes through their welfare roles will grow bigger, more

children will be mistreated, schools will get even worse then they are, on and on.

we can watch while the state crumbles.

and if (or when) another hurricane hits......