Fox News CEO warns against debate boycotts

[kskiska]

WASHINGTON, March 9 (UPI) -- Fox News CEO Roger Ailes, speaking in Washington, warned presidential candidates about pulling out of debates based on a sponsoring media company.

Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards dropped out of an August debate planned by the Nevada Democratic Party, in part because it was being hosted by Fox News channel.

Ailes used a speech during a Radio & Television News Directors Association Foundation event in Washington to deliver a caution to the candidates, TV Week said.

"The public knows if a journalist's question is unfair. They also know if a candidate is impeding freedom of speech and free press," Ailes said. "If you are afraid of journalists, how will you face the real dangers in the world?"

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[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. Would someone please...

Make a response with a lot of laughing smilicons? Thanks.

Too bad the middle finger one went away, a long time ago.

[Cha]

24. They had to take it away from us..

We abused it! :evilgrin:

[Joe Bacon]

80. Fox News = Oxymoron

with the emphasis on MORONS!

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[hedgehog]

2. Who said anything about being "afraid" of "journalists"?

Now, too busy to spend time with hatchet men, that's another story!

[Supersedeas]

69. Who said anything about FEAR -- Ailes clearly has an AXE to grind.

[Webster Green]

3. Journalists?

Where?:shrug: :rofl:

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Get real, Roger. No one wants to wade in your cesspool.

except brain dead RW hacks that you employ.

[msongs]

5. the bully threatens the victims to keep the victims in line - an OLD strategy, will it work ? --->

time?

the bully always threatens the target when the target shows sign of breaking away from the bully's power. It is the bully's last gasp.

will the dems break free of the evil monster Fox?

stay tuned.

Msongs
www.youtube.com/videos/msongs

[sandnsea]

6. Oh go stand in the corner and count yourself Roger

You ain't that fuckin' important.

[brentspeak]

7. That's a question you should have asked Bush when he would only answer scripted questions

[youngdem]

8. Uh oh, Wobbie sounds mad !! HAHA

That's because he knows the way to destroy Fox is to ignore them, deny them access, mock them and marginalize them.

There is no winning for Dems on Fox, and with that in mind NO Dem should have anything to do with them. Everyone who has Faux also has CNN and most have MSNBC.

This is great. Roger Ailes threatening people. Rupert pissed off. A black man named Hussein and Hillary running for the nomination, and a pro-choice, anti-gun, cross dressing Repuke is our main adversary. HA HA HA.

Fuck you Roger. We are gonna ignore you and away you will go.

[Yavin4]

9. Call Us When Fox News Hires A "Journalist"

That is all.

[KeepItReal]

16. Roger that!

<eom>

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. Don't wait by the phone for that call.

[VegasWolf]

10. Yes, but I'm missing the connection between Fox and journalism. Didn't think there is one. nt

[robinlynne]

11. yeah you tell us all about freedom of the press... we're listening....

[onehandle]

12. Bite our collective butts, Republican.

To Hell with your propaganda, prick.

[sarcasmo]

13. A CEO of a "News" station threatens Presidential Candidates?

What is this, Germany pre WWII.

[durtee librul]

74. My thoughts exactly....

I think ailes has been eating too many crumbs from his master's table and is becoming emboldened.

What a f*g joke this is becoming.

I am so glad JRE upset Ailes applecart....methinks JRE better have some mighty good security - he has awoken the sleeping dog....and he ain't happy that someone has tried to enlighten the peasants to revolt against his brainwashed drivel. Same for Richardson. Now let's see if Obama and Hillary can do the same (my apologies if they already have)

Let's just hope our 'leaders' in congress don't try and force someone to take part....namely Hil who has accepted donations from Ailes.

[SemperEadem]

86. and a cable guy at that.

talk about low rent.

[Cobalt Violet]

14. What are they going to do to our candidate that they weren't going to do anyway

I really don't think we have anything to lose.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

29. They will say Obama attended a radical madrasa!

Oh wait, this "news organization" already unleashed that pathetic smear that CNN debunked, and MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, and PBS did not peddle. Only one television "news" station peddled a blatant lie without even bothering to check facts. Checking facts? Only journalists do that, right Roger?

[Cobalt Violet]

42. We have nothing to lose by ignoring them.

They will do to us what they will no matter what we do.

And they never let the facts get in the way of doing that.

[Old and In the Way]

15. I only regret that the Democrats didn't extract a financial downpayment from Fox

before they told them to go pound sand.

[madrchsod]

18. looks like no one is showing up...so maybe

they can get impersonators to debate..the average fox viewer would`t know the difference

[Whoa_Nelly]

19. You know, I bet Ailes smeared shit on his nursery walls as baby, too.

:rofl:

[Pastiche423]

20. Too hysterical!

Ailes warns candidates?

Is this a joke?

[UpInArms]

21. Fox News CEO Roger Ailes

very careful about showing who he is

http://www.newsmeat.com/media_political_donations/Roger_Ailes.php

AILES, ROGER E
NEW YORK, NY 10036
FOX NEWS CHANNEL
NEWS AMERICA HOLDINGS INC-FOX POL ACTION COMMITTEE (AKA NEWS AMERICA-FOX POL ACTION CMTE $5,000
primary 12/29/97
AILES, ROGER E
NEW YORK, NY 10016
NBC
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BROADCASTERS TELEVISION AND RADIO POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE $250
primary 06/22/94
AILES, ROGER
CONSULTANT MOLINARI, SUSAN (R)
House (NY 13)
SUSAN MOLINARI FOR CONGRESS $500
general 02/18/90
AILES, ROGER
CROTON ON HUDSON, NY 10520
AILES COMMUNICATIONS DAWKINS, PETER MILLER (R)
Senate - NJ
PETE DAWKINS FOR SENATE $1,000
general 03/18/89

Natural-Born Networker

A natural networker, Ailes quickly parlayed his setback into a successful business as a media consultant to corporations and Republican politicians. He had started in the business with a stint producing TV for the 1968 Richard Nixon campaign--Ailes says he was just a low-level functionary, not a policy adviser--but it was with the 1984 Reagan campaign that Ailes really hit his stride. The Great Communicator was in trouble: Democrat Walter Mondale had done serious damage in the first debate, and Reagan's team was panicking. "The key to my success is having everybody in the room, when something goes wrong, saying, 'Get Ailes in here--he'll fix it.' If people want you in the room when things are going wrong, you'll succeed," Ailes says. Mondale went down, and Ailes was back in 1988, as one of the architects of then Vice President George H. W. Bush's vicious--and ultimately successful--campaign against Democrat Michael Dukakis.

The Most Biased Name in News

Years ago, Republican party chair Rich Bond explained that conservatives' frequent denunciations of "liberal bias" in the media were part of "a strategy" (Washington Post, 8/20/92). Comparing journalists to referees in a sports match, Bond explained: "If you watch any great coach, what they try to do is 'work the refs.' Maybe the ref will cut you a little slack next time."

But when Fox News Channel, Rupert Murdoch's 24-hour cable network, debuted in 1996, a curious thing happened: Instead of denouncing it, conservative politicians and activists lavished praise on the network. "If it hadn't been for Fox, I don't know what I'd have done for the news," Trent Lott gushed after the Florida election recount (Washington Post, 2/5/01). George W. Bush extolled Fox News Channel anchor Tony Snow--a former speechwriter for Bush's father--and his "impressive transition to journalism" in a specially taped April 2001 tribute to Snow's Sunday-morning show on its five-year anniversary (Washington Post, 5/7/01). The right-wing Heritage Foundation had to warn its staffers not to watch so much Fox News on their computers, because it was causing the think tank's system to crash.

When it comes to Fox News Channel, conservatives don't feel the need to "work the ref." The ref is already on their side. Since its 1996 launch, Fox has become a central hub of the conservative movement's well-oiled media machine. Together with the GOP organization and its satellite think tanks and advocacy groups, this network of fiercely partisan outlets--such as the Washington Times, the Wall Street Journal editorial page and conservative talk-radio shows like Rush Limbaugh's--forms a highly effective right-wing echo chamber where GOP-friendly news stories can be promoted, repeated and amplified. Fox knows how to play this game better than anyone.

<snip>

Fox's founder and president, Roger Ailes, was for decades one of the savviest and most pugnacious Republican political operatives in Washington, a veteran of the Nixon and Reagan campaigns. Ailes is most famous for his role in crafting the elder Bush's media strategy in the bruising 1988 presidential race. With Ailes' help, Bush turned a double-digit deficit in the polls into a resounding win by targeting the GOP's base of white male voters in the South and West, using red-meat themes like Michael Dukakis' "card-carrying" membership in the ACLU, his laissez-faire attitude toward flag-burning, his alleged indifference to the pledge of allegiance--and, of course, paroled felon Willie Horton.

Described by fellow Bush aide Lee Atwater as having "two speeds--attack and destroy," Ailes once jocularly told a Time reporter (8/22/88): "The only question is whether we depict Willie Horton with a knife in his hand or without it." Later, as a producer for Rush Limbaugh's short-lived TV show, he was fond of calling Bill Clinton the "hippie president" and lashing out at "liberal bigots" (Washington Times, 5/11/93). It is these two sensibilities above all--right-wing talk radio and below-the-belt political campaigning--that Ailes brought with him to Fox, and his stamp is evident in all aspects of the network's programming.

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[calimary]

22. BITE ME, roger. If your fat ass can even catch me.

I think it's LONG PAST TIME to turn the tables on these assholes.

A KEY strategy (and an up-til-lately-successful one) by this White House has long been to threaten to deny ACCESS to any media people or entities that don't bow and scrape. If you don't behave, we won't give you access to all our big names - like the (so-called) pResident and the VT and all the Cabinet people and all the marquee people you want on your talk shows. If you don't behave, we'll freeze you out. We may even yank your White House press credentials. For awhile, TOO LONG imo, it worked.

So... let the games begin, then. If the bad guys can freeze people out, SO CAN WE. Obama already started it a short while ago, denying all Pox Noise people access to him - and I read something in, I think, either the Washington Post or the NYTimes, about it - how Pox felt the freeze - none of their people could get any time with Obama, no interviews, no access, no nothing. Cry me a river, roger. It's ABOUT TIME the tables were turned.

Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it.

And btw, roger, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO BE THREATENING ANYBODY??????????????????? :grr:

[Cha]

23. Fuck you and your logic, rogerdodger.

fauxsnooze is a wrongwing propoganda machine like joseph goebbels wishes he had.

The Dems aren't ready to make nice with your Obama Osama callin' ass.

[screembloodymurder]

25. I've got a warning for him.

He's right, we know FOX is unfair.

[Buford Pusser]

26. Bush's response to Iran, Syria? Not engaging in the debate.

Ailes said, "If you are afraid of journalists, how will you face the real dangers in the world?"

How does Bush respond to the dangers said to be posed by Iran, Syria, and North Korea?

By refusing to take or answer questions, no dialogue, no debate with them.

Ailes just committed a self-condemning faux pas.

Why am I not?

Because those countries, unlike Ailes, might well be interested in peace, against this unilateral bully that we've become -- Fox News, however, has no such interest.

[NEOBuckeye]

27. Oh, shut up

Everyone knows Fox News isn't News at all. It's just a propaganda mouthpiece for NeoCon Corporo-Fascists. I don't blame any candidate for boycotting propaganda mouthpieces.

[truthisfreedom]

28. bush ignored Iran and North Korea, roger. Think about that.

Did you think the almighty HE was a fraidycat too?

[ObamaNationYes]

30. But, should we really boycott

like it or not they (Fox Noise) have a huge audience. And O'reilly was named #2 in Pew Research Poll as America's most admired news journalist. (I need one of those vomiting smileys).

Do we miss a large audience by refusing to participate?

while it may be the "fun" thing to do, is it the smart thing to do?

[beltanefauve]

37. The FOX audience

consists of two types of viewers: people who already know FOX is biased but tune in anyway because FOX is telling them what they want to hear, and, people who don't know they are listening to bias (which is REALLY scary!) Either way, regardless of the size of the audience, are we really "missing" anything by calling them on their shit?

Do you have a link to O' Reilly's popularity rating as a "journalist"?

Do you really believe the boycott, the petitons, the e mails and the netroots effort in all of this was done because it was "fun"???

[ObamaNationYes]

51. Pew Research

I didn't mean to belittle the efforts with the word "fun" - but it would be - no?

The link is www.people-press.org. I wouldn't make up bad news!

America’s Favorite
Journalists: Then and Now
1985 % 2007 %
Rather 11 Couric 5
Cronkite 6 O’Reilly 4
Jennings 6 Gibson 3
Brokaw 4 Rather 2
Walters 3 Brokaw 2
Koppel 2 Williams 2
Top Six 32 18
Other 33 42
No answer 35 44
100 104*
* 2007 figures add to 104% because
respondents could offer more than
one name.

[hwmnbn]

38. Nope...

Fox news watchers will never vote intelligently, that's why they watch Fox news, to get some justification.

I say marginalize Fox. No interviews, no questions, no way!

[Name removed]

58. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[TheWatcher]

71. Do you really think you are clever posting this pap?

Do you really think we are stupid enough to fall for it?

Do you really think anyone will take this post seriously?

WAFJ.

I cast the finger in your general direction.

[ObamaNationYes]

87. Excuse ME!!

who the heck are you, and what are you casting a finger in my direction for?

I asked a question, based on facts - whether or not you or I like the facts does not matter.

Also, I do not know what WAFJ means. I am 49 yrs old and often get lost on text message shorthand,

but I do not get lost on rudeness!

[MAGICBULLET]

82. just a funny reminder

of how O'reilly has that analyst doing a play by play report of his body language after interviews with his polar opposites. It seems like he's somewhat aware of how much a shitweasel he is. Funny.

[ObamaNationYes]

88. really?

I haven't seen that - I am sure if it starts showing him in an unfavorable light he will not have the analyst on much longer. he used to have a segment where everyday joe's could come on his show and debate him. Some of them were really sharp and he soon stopped having those debates.

[Malikshah]

31. Ailes---Potter.... Separated at birth? I think not.

I got your Mr. Bailey right here you waste of human dna.:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

[Timbuk3]

32. OH NOOOOO...

Does this mean Rupert's News Channel is going to start attacking Democrats?

/snark off...oh, what was I thinking, it's always on.

[rodeodance]

33. Richardson said go to H*** to Fox debate also today:-)

[rodeodance]

34. These warnings are really laughable!

[keopeli]

35. Roger considers himself to be observing an American tradition

No Presidential debates were held before 1860 when Lincoln and Douglass debated in the state of Illinois.

Roosevelt refused a debate with Wendell Wilkie in 1940.
Except for a couple of local radio debates, the next debate wasn't until 1976.

I'm 40 years old and I remember the Carter Ford debates. True, it seems like debates have always been there, but that's wrong. Before my "first" debate in 1976, there was exactly ONE national general debate in 1960.

The point is that debates are not dictated by the moderator. In fact, problems with biased moderators eventually lead to our current system, which is as crooked as they come, called the Commission on Presidential Debates. All questions are vetted and approved. Even the lighting on a candidate is dictated.

Now, Roger wants to have his OWN kind of debate under HIS rules.

Bullshit.

[beltanefauve]

36. I remember when

debates were moderated by the League of Women Voters. Yes, something did change for the worse since then.

[dansolo]

56. Lincoln-Douglas debates were not Presidential debates

I've seen this stated several times by different posters here at DU. Please get your history straight. The Lincoln-Douglas debates were for the Illinois Senate election in 1858, which Lincoln lost.

[keopeli]

62. I'm happy to be corrected.

The fact that the LD debates were Senatorial and in 1958 does not diminish my point, which is that debates are a new invention in US politics.

"Please get your history straight" - Perhaps a more congenial response such as "just trying to help us all be more accurate" would be more appropriate from a fellow DUer, especially if you don't disagree with my original point.

Peace.

[MAGICBULLET]

83. well they shouldn't worry

ANYWAY ... these cornballs all steer the debates with their post-debate spin anyway so it ultimately doesn't even matter anymore. Those who miss these debates just follow the "spin factor" which seems like such a pitiful idea.

[nicknameless]

39. self-deleted

[anotherdrew]

40. Roger Ailes can go to hell, and his viewers with him. their votes can also go to hell

if we need them to win, it ain't gonna happen... so... to hell with those fools, exclude and freeze them the hell out.

[emanymton]

41. What Will Pox Noise Chanel Do They Are Not Doing Already?

Honestly, Pox Noise Chanel is so much like the National Socialist Germany's "Reich Ministry for People's Enlightenment and Propaganda" led by Dr. J. Goebbels. Is there any difference between what Roger Ailes says and the views of propaganda of Goebbels?

Remember though, take no knife to a gun fight. These people take no prisoners.

[Vinca]

43. For starters, the words Fox and journalist should not be used

in the same sentence.

[Seabiscuit]

52. Bingo!

[Hard_Work]

92. How about this sentence:

Fox news hates journalists.

[CJCRANE]

44. F*ck Fox n/t

[progressoid]

Here's some freedom of speech for you Roger...

Take a flying fuck with with a rolling doughnut.

[Rebellious Republican]

45. I say Dems should just plain boycott faux news period.

I say all Dems should just refuse to appear on their channel period.
:toast:

[Cass]

46. LOL...looks like the dems hit a nerve with their boycott.

Faux has made it abundantly clear they are anything but fair and balanced; now they're going to have to reap what they've sown.

[DesertRat]

Hey Roger..."Fox journalist" is an oxymoron. n/t

[DesertRat]

47. self delete

[cascadiance]

48. I wonder if the Republican candidates would like to be on a debate hosted by Democracy Now!

... if that was nationally broadcast, etc. And I would put Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez far more in the category of a "news operation" than Faux News!

Do you think, even if they were able to broadcast that nationally, that Republican candidates would consider for one minute having a debate with questions being asked by Amy Goodman? Hell NO!

Perhaps if we get forced back into that question somehow, a counter should be made to challenge them in that way!

[BenDavid]

49. I know the democrats woke up

from their slumber when president bill clinton stood his ground and came back with the gusto of a hound dog towards Chris Wallace.Happy to see the dems growing themselves a pair...For the longest it seemed the only democrat with any balls were the ones born without a set....So good for the dems to cancel out.

[mitchum]

50. Fuck you Goebbels

[GrantDem]

53. FOX??? Journalists????

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[The Count]

54. Another successful "Bring it on" for the nuts! After this, Fox was dropped

entirely by the party, not just all candidates.

[KingFlorez]

55. What an idiot

Once again, a right-winger acts as if everyone is obligated to them. The candidates aren't obligated to appear on your network, so get over it.

[Sterling]

57. If every Dem refused to appear on Fox, it would die.

This should have been done years ago, during the penis scandal. The fact Dem's have not completely eliminated Fox from their reality is one thing that keeps me from trusting the party fully.

THERE IS NO REASON TO LEND FOX CREDIBILITY BY TREATING THEM LIKE A NEWS OUTLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Richard Steele]

59. Our candidates are FINE with "journalists", Roger. It's FoxNews they have the problem with.

[Richard Steele]

60. And Edwards never "dropped out", he TURNED DOWN the invitation. Different.

[stonebone]

61. What an arrogant shithead. Rot in hell.

[aaronbees]

63. Faux "News" is a danger to the world

That's the point, Roger!

[jpak]

64. No - Dems should participate in FAUX debates

but only if FAUX airs "Outfoxed" unedited and in its entirety before and after each "debate"...

:evilgrin:

[SOS]

65. "impeding freedom of speech and free press"

So if Cheney declines an invitation to appear on Democracy Now, he is impeding freedom of speech and press?
Have I got that right?

[eppur_se_muova]

66. Suck it, Ailes. You wouldn't know a good journalist if one bit you in the ass.

Suggest you brush up on that ability -- you could need it real bad, real soon.

[marshall]

67. Is Douglas Kennedy still working for Fox!

What is Teddy thinking letting one of his nephews run amuck like that???

[laylah]

68. And it is not even

April 1 yet...idiot!

Jenn

[HuffleClaw]

70. "They also know if a candidate is impeding freedom of speech and free press"

wow, what a complete load of crap. its Ailes who daily twists the truth and impedes freedom of speech

[Doctor_J]

72. ooooo, I'm scared

maybe Fox News won't be fair to Dems

:rofl:

[Triana]

73. "journalists"?

Faux doesn't employ journalists. That's the problem. Duh.

[jail_them]

75. Ah... The Old "What If They Had A War And Nobody Came?" Syndrome

But, I guess it would be rewritten to say "What If The War Mongers Had A Debate And Nobody Came?"


God, I hope this trend continues. And, it might - FOX has been shown for what they are lately by MSNBC and various exposes' and documentaries and whistle-blowers.

I honestly think FOX is in it's death-throes. The same shit that got them there has run dry. I think we'll start seeing execs fired soon, as they re-shuffle the deck chairs and in-fight.

[Venus Dog]

76. Fox Noise only exists because it is subsidized

by all the other inane Fox programming - i.e. American Idol, sports, etc. If it stood on its on - it would not even exist and Bill Orally & Co. would be on the dole.

[depakid]

77. The faster that people like Roger Ailes are put by the wayside

The faster we can actually do something positive in this country again.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

78. "It happens about every six months," Coulter said, "and you're always there to put me on TV, Sean."

Has Ann Coulter Hit Her Tipping Point?

By DAVID BAUDER
AP Television Writer

(skip)

A spokeswoman for Coulter did not return a call for comment. Coulter, however, did appear on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" three days after the Edwards remark and belittled the idea that it would do lasting damage to her. It's a cycle, she said: she says something, the same people become hysterical, and that's the end of it.

It's about her 17th allegedly career-ending moment, she said.

"It happens about every six months," Coulter said, "and you're always there to put me on TV, Sean."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_ON_TV_ANN_COULTER?SITE=MDHAG&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[saigon68]

79. She is an evil pile of Vomit

[SKKY]

81. The funny thing about this guy and his "joke"...

...is that I don't even think it was a slam againt Obama. It seemed to me more of a slam against Bush and his
ability to recollect importand facts, dates, and peoples names.

[KansDem]

84. What are you going to do, Roger? Steal another election?

:finger:

[SemperEadem]

85. Warns? He fucking warns?

This isn't about a journalist's questions being unfair... this is about his reichtwing propaganda mouthpiece of a cable station even posturing as qualified to host the Democratic debates. How would any thinking, intelligent person even think that fuxnoise is capable of credible hosting of a debate amongst the Democratic candidates when they can't even present a Democratic viewpoint on their air without sickening, untrue spin?

It'd be different if they've set an example of true journalistic fairness and respect of the truth. What Edwards did is brave and correct. I'm waiting for the rest of the Dems to quit attempting to pander to fuxnoise, thinking that they are going to all of a sudden drop 10+ years of tacking to the reicht. And which is worse: being under pressure from Democratic constituents (aka: WE THE PEOPLE) or being under pressure from fucking karl rove?

Ailes talked about his viewership as if they somehow deserved to watch the unbalanced and mentally derranged coverage fuxnoise would air.

[Canuckistanian]

93. What's he gonna do - start smearing Dems?

And that would different, how?

[SemperEadem]

94. exactly...

Here's what I think:

If fuxnoise is the outlet handling the videotaping of this debate, then that means that they own the video sources and copyright. Other news outlets would have to send requests to fuxnoise for particular video they needed for their purposes. There is no reason on earth to believe that fuxnoise would turn over the complete, unedited version of the debates--they would most likely release a highly edited version to other outlets.

I wouldn't put it past fuxnoise to not air the debates live, but to tape them in their entirety and then edit the tape, re-shoot the moderators' questions and edit the Dems' responses to the questions to fit the lie fuxnoise is trying to put over on the viewers---and air that as a 'look live', which is a tactic used by just about every news station in the country. (When they can only put to air 2 live shots at one time, but they have 4 reporters doing 'team coverage'--they tape two of the reporters and roll those tapes as a 'look live'--and the viewer thinks all 4 of the reporters in that quad box are standing there live.)

As if that isn't damage enough, it's not really what they will do during the debates, but what they will do with the tape AFTER the debates which will cause the most damage to the Dems' message. fuxnoise have no good reason to let the truth stand as it falls out in experience, as they can't handle the truth and have proven that fact for 11 years now.

I totally applaud the Nevada Dems for cancelling fuxnoise's participation in the debates. Any Dem who thinks they would get a fair shake from fux is delusional.

[Javaman]

89. Sounds like he's caught between whining and squeeling.

but then again that's what pigs do.

[stanwyck]

90. OK. Consider this

the day Scooter Libby was convicted on four counts, what was Fox "News" covering during prime time? Well, we were watching Keith on MSNBC and decided to take a look. Guess what? Greta Van Sustern was interviewing some hanger-on to the Anna Nicole Simpson debacle. Right. During prime time on the day one of the White House's chief advisors was convicted of perjury, Fox was covering Anna Nicole Smith -- who had been dead for three weeks.
That's the real issue here.
Does Fox News really qualify as a legitimate sponsor of debates.
Edwards doesn't think so and neither do I.

[spanone]

91. What mr. ailes fails to comprehend is that there are NO journalists on Faux.

I support 1000% the opinion that NO democratic candidates should even acknowledge that the Faux network exists. It is a right-wing propaganda tool. Period.

[ends_dont_justify]

95. First, they should change their name

Their news has nothing to do with foxes, and only continues to paint an unwanted prejaduice against the animal. Second, they should get off their lazy asses and do some real reporting. It isn't boycott so much as people think they're a bunch of nuts and that's also about their target audience.

[skip fox]

96. Or . . . "how will you know the real dangers of the world . . . if you listen to Fox reporters?"

:)

[dkofos]

97. They shouldn't buy advertising time either

FUK-FOX

[rec_report]

98. F*ck Roger Ailes. (Sometimes, you just have to cut to the chase.)

n/t