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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:17 PM
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AP: Gonzales, Mueller Admit FBI Broke Law
From the "Big Fu***ng Surprise" files:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070310/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/national_security_letters

The nation's top two law enforcement officials acknowledged Friday the
FBI broke the law to secretly pry out personal information about Americans. They apologized and vowed to prevent further illegal intrusions.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales left open the possibility of pursuing criminal charges against FBI agents or lawyers who improperly used the USA Patriot Act in pursuit of suspected terrorists and spies.

The FBI's transgressions were spelled out in a damning 126-page audit by Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine. He found that agents sometimes demanded personal data on people without official authorization, and in other cases improperly obtained telephone records in non-emergency circumstances.

The audit also concluded that the FBI for three years underreported to Congress how often it used national security letters to ask businesses to turn over customer data. The letters are administrative subpoenas that do not require a judge's approval. "People have to believe in what we say," Gonzales said. "And so I think this was very upsetting to me. And it's frustrating. We have some work to do to reassure members of Congress and the American people that we are serious about being responsible in the exercise of these authorities," he said.

More at the link

Is there anybody out there who didn't see this type of abuse and overreaching of authority coming? Just another day in the worst administration in the history of the country.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:22 PM
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1. If that's what they admit to
then what they actually did was probably ten times worse.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:27 PM
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2. "Trust us. We're the cops!"
/sarcasm
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:28 PM
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5. Honest Al's Justice Dept has the best deals in town!
"You've shopped the rest, now shop the best!!!" That's what he sounds like trying to sell this load of crap to us.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:19 PM
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31. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. A crime is just a clerical error.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:27 PM
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3. Sooooo..........when's Gonzales gonna be fired/impeached/
prosecuted for this?

Oh, that's right. Nevermind.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:28 PM
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4. Quick call the FBI and the Justice Dept. someone just committed a federal crime.
NEVERMIND.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:29 PM
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6. We're sorry!
So we'll stop, put a stop to it all...except for the new CIA version that's up and running...oh! And all that info the FBI already amassed? We'll just tuck it away for closer inspection and report that it was "destroyed". :sarcasm:

Fuckers! :mad:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:34 PM
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7. They apologized and vowed to prevent further illegal intrusions.
put that one in the "yeah, we believe your lying asses" file.

I don't think so, ickwad.

Now go to jail and stfu.
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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:36 AM
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14. No apologies.
We must demand PROSECUTION of the crimes and the agencies top officials who have allowed this.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:44 PM
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8. If you recall, Bush tried to do his damndest to defend
and justify these illegal acts. Gonzales was just as complicite as G.W.Bush. Justice shold be served.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 10:59 PM
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9. so if the millions of non-violent pot smokers who are in jail say they're sorry
can they get out, too? :shrug:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:51 AM
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20. What About Rolling Stops and Parking Tickets?
Are we having a general amnesty for politeness?
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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-09-07 11:09 PM
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10. Then we can count on arrests being made and prosecution initiated? n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 12:10 AM
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11. Gonzales is the WORST to work under orders you to violate the
law and then expects underlings to fall on their sword like Libby

How long are the underlings going to take this???

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:38 AM
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26. he started off with true believers who were hired on by ashcroft
although they may not have morning prayer meetings anymore, the top aides are still committed to the ashcroft/gonzales/cheney/bush cause. Don't expect them to change - they really believe in this shit.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 02:15 AM
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12. Next time I get pulled over for speeding, I'm gonna apologize...
Do you think it will work for me...

Since when are these two clowns above th law...
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Starfury Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 03:20 AM
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13. Just like Abu Ghraib....
...they'll pursue a few low-level "bad apples," then gravely inform us that the problem's been solved. In reality, we know the problem's systemic.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:04 AM
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15. EVERYONE who did this goes to jail, or we have a vote of ZERO CONFIDENCE in our government.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:14 AM
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16. next excuse....
place your bets - when will they say "we were surprised"
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:24 AM
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17. apologized and vowed to prevent further illegal intrusions
When will these thugs be held accountable? :mad:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 07:49 AM
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18. I suppose Gonzo and Mueller wouldn't consider resigning. nt
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:10 AM
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19. K & R
:kick:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:51 AM
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21. Then they should both be fired!
It's as simple as that.

But this President doesn't understand accountability at all.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 08:52 AM
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22. Bush Would Have To Fire and Prosecute Himself, Then
Personally, I'm all in favor of that.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 09:34 AM
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23. Justice Dept. IG - what was his motivation?
The tide must be turning. Maybe the underlings have had enough - considering that this saw the light of day at all.

According to Jesselyn Radack, the Justice Dept. whistleblower, the IG normally will act to cover up crimes within the department. Here's the website about her book:

http://www.patriotictruthteller.net/index.html
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vssmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:14 AM
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24. Mueller is accountable
"But the question should and must be asked: How could this happen? Who is accountable?" Mueller said. "And the answer to that is, I am to be held accountable."

It is like saying, "I am responsible or accountable" takes them/him off the hook. When an official admits responsibility he/she should resign or be fired for failure to do the job but that never happens.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:24 AM
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25. You are both FIRED
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:52 AM
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27. Fired ?
When I break the law, I get prosecuted. Are they above the law or just ignorant of it?
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stonebone Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 01:44 PM
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28. Not that they care that they're criminals. They openly admit it without shame.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 04:58 PM
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29. "People have to believe in what we say," Gonzales said.
That's just never gonna happen.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 05:05 PM
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30. Criminals are in charge of this country....
Where are the consequences for this?
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 10:23 PM
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32. Fired?
I see two medals of honor coming up soon.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-10-07 11:33 PM
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33. They apologized so now everything is fine.
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