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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:37 PM
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Cuba-China trade said hits $1.8B in 2006
Cuba-China trade said hits $1.8B in 2006
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8NRE1N00.htm
Trade between Cuba and China ballooned to US$1.8 billion (euro1.4 billion) last year, double that of 2005, Beijing's ambassador to the island said.

China's exports of buses, locomotives and farm equipment and supplies to Cuba in 2006 helped account for the sharp increase over the previous year, Zhao Rongxian said in a story posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Cuban government's business weekly Opciones. He did not provide specific numbers for Chinese-Cuban trade in 2005.

An official Cuban report last year said trade between the two countries was about US$775,000 (euro590,000) during the 12-month period ending in October 2005. It was unclear if the US$1.8 billion (euro1.4 billion) figure corresponded to the same 12 months in 2006.

"We are both socialist countries, we have a lot in common and magnificent relations of cooperation in all areas," the ambassador said.

Cuba sent nickel, sugar and medicine, as well as biotechnological products to China. Chinese tourists also visited Cuba in record numbers and now average more than 10,000 a year, the ambassador said.


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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 05:51 PM
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1. The article indicates this would have happened earlier, but Russia's
closeness to Cuba (after the embargo and the Bay of Pigs invasion) presented a problem as they were rival governments then.

Interesting seeing countries starting to come to Cuba's aid after all these years, and the great effort exerted to isolate Cuba by US officials.
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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:42 PM
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3. Don't get excited
No body is comin to Cuba's/Dear Leader's aid. If Cuba didn't have anything to trade, there would be no China-Cuba trade relationship.

Of course that doesn't take away from the stupidity of the US embargo.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:57 PM
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4. Did you read the article? The items Cuba is able to buy now have been in very
short supply for ages, due to the embargo.

Cuba made arrangements with Bermuda to buy some of their used buses several years ago, and the Bush administration found out about it and the U.S. ambassador to Bermuda threatened them, along with Roger Noriega that they'd better drop that idea, or things would go less pleasantly for them with the U.S., leaving that transaction in the dust.

Your snotty "Dear Leader" attempt to red-bait me is ugly, and inappropriate.
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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:51 PM
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12. Read it yourself
The US was not the only one with an embargo against Cuba for its alliance with the USSR. Its new trading partner also had the same type of embargo in place.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 01:05 AM
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14. The embargo which has been killing Cuba has been placed by the U.S.,
something many DU'ers know.

The embargo against which the General Assembly votes a condemnation yearly is the U.S. embargo on Cuba.

There are complex extraterritorial effects you don't seem to grasp. Maybe this will help you a little, but I doubt it:

DEALING WITH U.S. EXTRATERRITORIAL SANCTIONS AND FOREIGN COUNTERMEASURES
By
HARRY L. CLARK*

Published in

20 U. Penn. Jnl. Int'l Econ. L. 61 (1999)
1. INTRODUCTION

In March 1997, a Canadian subsidiary of Wal-Mart Stores Inc. faced an increasingly common dilemma. United States authorities demanded that it comply with U.S. sanctions regulations by ending sales in Canada of clothing that is manufactured in Cuba. At the same time, Canadian authorities insisted that Wal-Mart Canada Ltd. continue to carry the Cuban-origin products or face fines of up to C$1.5 million for noncompliance with countermeasures designed to neutralize the impact of U.S. sanctions.1 The company's first response was to remove the items from its stores, but it reversed course within two weeks. After apparently deciding that the risk of liability was more severe under Canadian law, Wal-Mart Canada announced that it was restocking its shelves with Cuban-origin clothing.2 A U.S. government spokesman later stated that U.S. officials are considering whether or not to take action against Wal-Mart.3

This Article reviews U.S. extraterritorial sanctions, countermeasures established by other Jurisdictions, difficulties that arise when the two overlap and possible means of dealing with conflicting legal requirements. Section 2 outlines foremost U.S. sanctions that have an extraterritorial scope: (1) embargo regulations, particularly as they apply to U.S.-owned or controlled foreign companies and to reexports of U.S.-origin items by foreign persons; 2) recent statutes that strengthen extraterritorial sanctions against Cuba, the 1992 Cuban Democracy Act and 1996 Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity (LIBERTAD) Act or "Helms-Burton Act" as it is popularly known; and 3) the 1996 Iran and Libya Sanctions Act, which mandates "secondary boycott" sanctions against foreign persons who pursue major petroleum-related investments in Iran or Libya.

Part III reviews countermeasures established by the European Union ("EU"), Canada, Mexico and others in response to extraterritorial U.S. sanctions. The principal elements of these countermeasures forbid compliance with U.S. sanctions ("blocking" provisions), prohibit recognition of judgments under U.S. sanctions and authorize recovery of damages attributable to judgments handed down under U.S. sanctions ("clawback" provisions).

Part IV describes challenges to U.S. extraterritorial sanctions under international trade agreements and related negotiations to reconcile U.S. and foreign policies. Dispute settlement initiatives have not been pursued to a decision, but negotiations have not succeeded in freeing companies from conflicting national laws. This is true notwithstanding agreements that the United States and the EU concluded in May 1998 that were intended to address EU concerns about extraterritorial sanctions and the U.S. desire for coordinated sanctions policies, particularly with respect to Cuba. Key arrangements are contingent on enactment of U.S. legislation to insulate EU persons from the Helms-Burton Act alien-exclusion provisions, and there are few prospects of such legislation passing the Congress in the foreseeable future.

Part V assesses potential legal liability and other problems for a company that, like Wal-Mart, is caught between the dictates of U.S. sanctions and foreign countermeasures.

Part VI identifies possible means of minimizing risks of difficulty for companies that might face this conundrum. Careful formulation and implementation of internal guidelines can be of substantial benefit. The first and most important step is to make informed advance decisions about how to address conflicting legal requirements rather than waiting for problems to arise.
(snip/...)
http://www.dbtrade.com/publications/extra_territorial.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Cuba Report To UN On Why USA's Blockade Must End
Tuesday, 11 October 2005, 10:15 am
Press Release: Cuba Government

Report by Cuba on Resolution 59/11 of the United Nations General Assembly

“The necessity of ending the economic, commercial and financial blockade imposed by the United States of America against Cuba”

August 15, 2005

INTRODUCTION

The economic, commercial and financial blockade impose by the United States against Cuba is the longest-lasting and cruelest of its kind know to human history and is an essential element in the United States’ hostile and aggressive policies regarding the Cuban people. Its aim, made explicit on 6 April 1960 is the destruction of the Cuban Revolution: (…) through frustration and discouragement based on dissatisfaction and economic difficulties (…) to withhold funds and supplies to Cuba in order to cut real income thereby causing starvation, desperation and the overthrow of the government (...)”

It is equally an essential component of the policy of state terrorism against Cuba which silently, systematically, cumulatively, inhumanly, ruthlessly affects the population with no regard for age, sex, race, religious belief or social position.

This policy, implemented and added to by ten US administrations also amounts to an act of genocide under the provisions of paragraph (c) of article II of the Geneva Convention for the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide of 9 December 1948 and therefore constitutes a violation of International Law. This Convention defines this as ‘(…) acts perpetrated with the intention to totally or partially destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group’, and in these cases provides for ‘the intentional subjugation of the group to conditions that result in their total or partial physical destruction’.

The blockade on Cuba is an act of economic war. There is no regulation of International Law which justifies a blockade in times of peace. Since 1909, in the London Naval Conference, as a principle of International Law it was defined that ‘blockade is an act of war’, and based on this, its use is only possible between countries at war.

Although the total blockade on trade between Cuba and the United States was formally decreed by an Executive Order issued by President John F. Kennedy on 3 February 1962, measures that are part of the blockade were put in place just a few weeks after the triumph of the Cuban Revolution on 1 January 1959.

On 12 February 1959, the US Government refused to grant a modest credit requested by Cuba to maintain the stability of the national currency. Later, other measures were applied such as the restriction of the supply of fuel to the Island by American transnational companies, the halting of industrial factories, the prohibition of exports to Cuba and the partial, and later total, suppression of the sugar quota.

By virtue of the blockade, among other restrictions, Cuba cannot export any product to the United States, or import any merchandise from this country: American tourists are prohibited from visiting; the dollar cannot be used in the country’s transactions with foreign countries; the country has no access to the credit, and cannot carry out transactions with regional or American multilateral financial institutions and their boats and aircrafts must not enter American territory.

The blockade has a marked extraterritorial component. In 1992, with a view to intensifying the effects of Cuba’s loss of 85% of its foreign trade after the Soviet Union and the European socialist block fell apart, the United States passed the Torricelli Act, which removed Cuba’s ability to purchase medicines and food from US subsidiaries in third countries which stood at US$718 million in 1991. The Torricelli Act placed tight restrictions on ships sailing to and from Cuba, thus making formal its serious extraterritorial provisions. A ship from a third country that docks in Cuban waters cannot enter a port in the United States until 6 months have passed and said country has obtained a new permission permit.

The 1996 Helms-Burton Act made the effects of the blockade worse, increased the number and scope of the provisions with an extraterritorial impact, instituted persecution of and sanctions on actual and potential foreign investors in Cuba and authorised funding for hostile, subversive and aggressive acts against the Cuban people.
(snip/...)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0510/S00197.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"Denial of Food and Medicine:
The Impact Of The U.S. Embargo
On The Health And Nutrition In Cuba"
-An Executive Summary-
American Association for World Health Report
Summary of Findings
March 1997
After a year-long investigation, the American Association for World Health has determined that the U.S. embargo of Cuba has dramatically harmed the health and nutrition of large numbers of ordinary Cuban citizens. As documented by the attached report, it is our expert medical opinion that the U.S. embargo has caused a significant rise in suffering-and even deaths-in Cuba. For several decades the U.S. embargo has imposed significant financial burdens on the Cuban health care system. But since 1992 the number of unmet medical needs patients going without essential drugs or doctors performing medical procedures without adequate equipment-has sharply accelerated. This trend is directly linked to the fact that in 1992 the U.S. trade embargo-one of the most stringent embargoes of its kind, prohibiting the sale of food and sharply restricting the sale of medicines and medical equipment-was further tightened by the 1992 Cuban Democracy Act.

A humanitarian catastrophe has been averted only because the Cuban government has maintained a high level of budgetary support for a health care system designed to deliver primary and preventive health care to all of its citizens. Cuba still has an infant mortality rate half that of the city of Washington, D.C.. Even so, the U.S. embargo of food and the de facto embargo on medical supplies has wreaked havoc with the island's model primary health care system. The crisis has been compounded by the country's generally weak economic resources and by the loss of trade with the Soviet bloc.

Recently four factors have dangerously exacerbated the human effects of this 37-year-old trade embargo. All four factors stem from little-understood provisions of the U.S. Congress' 1992 Cuban Democracy Act (CDA):
  1. 1. A Ban on Subsidiary Trade: Beginning in 1992, the Cuban Democracy Act imposed a ban on subsidiary trade with Cuba. This ban has severely constrained Cuba's ability to import medicines and medical supplies from third country sources. Moreover, recent corporate buyouts and mergers between major U.S. and European pharmaceutical companies have further reduced the number of companies permitted to do business with Cuba.

    2. Licensing Under the Cuban Democracy Act: The U.S. Treasury and Commerce Departments are allowed in principle to license individual sales of medicines and medical supplies, ostensibly for humanitarian reasons to mitigate the embargo's impact on health care delivery. In practice, according to U.S. corporate executives, the licensing provisions are so arduous as to have had the opposite effect. As implemented, the licensing provisions actively discourage any medical commerce. The number of such licenses granted-or even applied for since 1992-is minuscule. Numerous licenses for medical equipment and medicines have been denied on the grounds that these exports "would be detrimental to U.S. foreign policy interests."

    3. Shipping Since 1992:The embargo has prohibited ships from loading or unloading cargo in U.S. ports for 180 days after delivering cargo to Cuba. This provision has strongly discouraged shippers from delivering medical equipment to Cuba. Consequently shipping costs have risen dramatically and further constricted the flow of food, medicines, medical supplies and even gasoline for ambulances. From 1993 to 1996, Cuban companies spent an additional $8.7 million on shipping medical imports from Asia, Europe and South America rather than from the neighboring United States.

    4. Humanitarian Aid: Charity is an inadequate alternative to free trade in medicines, medical supplies and food. Donations from U.S. non-governmental organizations and international agencies do not begin to compensate for the hardships inflicted by the embargo on the Cuban public health system. In any case, delays in licensing and other restrictions have severely discouraged charitable contributions from the U.S.


Taken together, these four factors have placed severe strains on the Cuban health system. The declining availability of food stuffs, medicines and such basic medical supplies as replacement parts for thirty-year-old X-ray machines is taking a tragic human toll. The embargo has closed so many windows that in some instances Cuban physicians have found it impossible to obtain life-saving medicines from any source, under any circumstances. Patients have died. In general, a relatively sophisticated and comprehensive public health system is being systematically stripped of essential resources. High-technology hospital wards devoted to cardiology and nephrology are particularly under siege. But so too are such basic aspects of the health system as water quality and food security. Specifically, the AAWH's team of nine medical experts identified the following health problems affected by the embargo:


  1. 1. Malnutrition: The outright ban on the sale of American foodstuffs has contributed to serious nutritional deficits, particularly among pregnant women, leading to an increase in low birth-weight babies. In addition, food shortages were linked to a devastating outbreak of neuropathy numbering in the tens of thousands. By one estimate, daily caloric intake dropped 33 percent between 1989 and 1993.

    2. Water Quality: The embargo is severely restricting Cuba's access to water treatment chemicals and spare-parts for the island's water supply system. This has led to serious cutbacks in supplies of safe drinking water, which in turn has become a factor in the rising incidence of morbidity and mortality rates from water-borne diseases.

    3. Medicines & Equipment: Of the 1,297 medications available in Cuba in 1991, physicians now have access to only 889 of these same medicines - and many of these are available only intermittently. Because most major new drugs are developed by U.S. pharmaceuticals, Cuban physicians have access to less than 50 percent of the new medicines available on the world market. Due to the direct or indirect effects of the embargo, the most routine medical supplies are in short supply or entirely absent from some Cuban clinics.

    4. Medical Information: Though information materials have been exempt from the U.S. trade embargo since 1 988, the AAWH study concludes that in practice very little such information goes into Cuba or comes out of the island due to travel restrictions, currency regulations and shipping difficulties. Scientists and citizens of both countries suffer as a result. Paradoxically, the embargo harms some U.S. citizens by denying them access to the latest advances in Cuban medical research, including such products as Meningitis B vaccine, cheaply produced interferon and streptokinase, and an AIDS vaccine currently under-going clinical trials with human volunteers.

(snip/...)
http://www.cubasolidarity.net/aawh.html
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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 07:43 AM
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16. 192 other countries in the world and the US is the one killing the Cubans
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 07:49 AM by Show_Me _The_Truth
Sounds like propaganda to me. China REFUSED to trade with Cuba until a few years ago, Venezuela and Cuba are red shirt buddies. Why can't they support themselves?

In most every other post you make, I seem to see the common theme that the US is insignificant to the future of Cuba and Venezuela, that they can handle things themselves just fine without the US meddling. Now, the US is killing their citizens b/c we won't trade with them.

I am not saying the US embargo isn't stupid. It is at this point in history. However, they had access to trade with the Soviet Union during the whole unpleasantness of the 1950's to 1980's. It is their own fault they lost 85% of their foreign trade with the collapse of the USSR and its satellites. Tough cookies, they backed the wrong horse and continued to thumb their nose at the US after the collapse of the USSR.

It takes a LOOOOONNNNGGGG time to recover from losing a trading partner that accounted for that much of your supply. It took at least 20 to 30yrs for the Japanese and Germans to recover their economies after WWII.


I am not buying any of this tripe. ALL of these items have sources outside the US. In fact a poster below is saying the embargo has actually HELPED Cuba.

What next? Will Castro's daughter (I don't even know if he has one) pose as a peasant and testify before Congress that the US troops ripped babies out of their incubators. Just like the Kuwaiti princess in the first Gulf War.

Edited for spelling.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:29 AM
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17. It seems that you don't realize that the US sanctions are extra territorial.
Countries don't manufacture products. Businesses do. The US's sanctions penalize businesses that do biz in/with Cuba. If they want to sell to the US market place then they cannot sell to Cuba. They have to choose one market or the other.

You also mention the long duration of economic recovery for Japan and Germany post WW2 - and that was with billions of US economic aid and trade. The US's extra Territorial sanctions precluded almost all such aid from any country.

Speaking of self supporting nations, do you think that the bastion of 'freedom'™, the US, can support itself without trade from.. say.. Canada? Imagine the problems that the US would encounter if sanctioned by extra territorial embargo.

Cuba has done OK considering the circumstances.

Because Cuba "backed the wrong horse" they were able to maintain their sovereignty and not relinquish to the declared enemy of Cuba, all the while building their social infrastructure that the people wanted.



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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 09:29 AM
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18. Not quite
Edited on Wed Mar-14-07 10:29 AM by Show_Me _The_Truth
They cannot sell goods to Cuba that use US manufactured products or technology that contribute over a certain value of the overall product value. They also cannot sell goods in the US that use Cuban products.

Nothing says they have to choose one or the other. If the companies are ex-US and they break off ties with Cuba, they do so at their own choice so they don't jeopardize their access to the US market. There is NOTHING that says they must. They are doing so at their choice to service the larger market and not deal with the PR implications of having a Cuban operation

The embargo (not blockade) affects companies HQ'ed in the US. If you decide to set up business in the US, then you are agreeing to follow its rules, nothing earth shattering there.

Cuba's credit lines with other countries are running out again b/c they are defaulting on loans. Oh wait, that is the US' fault too I'm sure.

The answer to your question is, no the US probably could not sustain itself at current levels without trade from other countries. But, the US provides what other people want in return, whether it be raw materials, services, or plain old US Currency. Cuba has to provide hard goods for its trade b/c its currency is worth nothing more than a portrait of Che or Fidel in other parts of the world.

Cuba made the wrong choice, but they made it, or rather Che made it. They backed and relinquished to the declared enemy of the US. If you think they had sovereignty under the USSR, you are dead wrong. They were a puppet under the USSR as much, if not more than, they would have been as a US regional puppet govt.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:00 PM
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5. Nobody? How about Venezuela, for one?
At least Cuba is actually selling products to China.

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Show_Me _The_Truth Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:47 PM
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11. Actually they are merely bartering with what they have.
I doubt China would accept the Cuban Peso. Unless they just wanted to plaster their walls with Fidel and Che's face. That's about all its good for outside Cuba.

The US currency has value outside the US, and China accepts US currency, bonds, treasuries, etc.

China will accept what it can trade for other items.
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happydreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 06:32 PM
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2. Viva Cuba! It disgusts me how idiotic the US trade policy is toward
Cuba.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:09 PM
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6. Has the Cuban economy
reached the level it was at before the Soviet collapse now that they have all these new trading partners??
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:17 PM
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7. I think its getting close to that level.
Considering the economic impact in that era thru now, Cuba has made remarkable advances in education and health care for all citizens.. not to mention their export of health care and education to many countries in need.

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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:22 PM
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8. they are also
an environmentalists dream. Equality for women and soon for gays (the People's Assembly is about to pass sweeping gay rights measures) and definately the most egalitarian state, as far as income disparity, in the entire hemisphere. A lot of accomplishments for a poor blockaded island with few resources.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:29 PM
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9. Some people have argued that the blockade actually HELPED Cuba.
At least in many ways. They could keep out corrupt American businesses and corrupt American business models, they don't have to pander to our extremists and the influence of our extremists (e.g., Mexico), and with the blockade, we have FORCED environmentalism on them, etc.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 10:36 PM
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10. True
maybe some unexpected upsides along with the downsides. One hideous example of a bad side, Cuba has a very hard time getting dialisis machines because fo the embargo. The US bans a lot of crucial material under the line of thinking they will make people so miserable they will just give up. Doesn't say much about our social/economic/political system if the only way to win is by forcing others on their knees.
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-13-07 11:12 PM
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13. Cuba's agriculture may end up being a model for the world, though.
Without petrochem pesticides and fertilizers, they've been forced to pioneer organic farming. http://multinationalmonitor.org/hyper/issues/1994/11/mm1194_06.html That's a good place to start, if you're interested.

Admittedly, I don't eat organically (I live in the Mojave, and the price is just not reasonable for me yet), but I do think organic agriculture is the long-term future in terms of sustainability.

I've also heard that both they and China require everyone, even those in apartments in cities, grow at least some of their own foods. The Chinese grow their own crops outside even during the harshest winter months (kale will grow under a foot of snow, e.g.). When I realized my kid had no idea where her food came from, I started growing a pretty decent crop out on the porch.
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carla Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 03:42 AM
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15. Perhaps "el bloqueo"
has helped Cuba become self-sufficient, but in the same way that denying education to a curious child/student forces them to teach themselves. The consequence is felt later in life, ie; when they are denied jobs because they don't have the right diploma. Perhaps the student is smarter, and better educated in actuality, but the system relies on the credibility provided by the little piece of paper. Substitute "dollar" for "diploma" and the metaphor of the little piece of paper becomes evident. Cuba, under the blockade, has been denied access to international markets, especially monetary and financial markets...making the Cuban currency non-convertible in such markets. It has been strangled by being denied credit as well, so that the government has been forced to trade/pay for imported goods in US dollars. I agree with the observation that the blockade has kept Cuba free from an infestation of extremist corporate interests and aided the development of environmental policies missing in much of the capitalist world...
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