ABC: Gold Mine Saddam Hussein’s Loyalists Infiltrated U.S. Operations in I

[RamboLiberal]

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/World/Iraq_infiltrators_031218.html

Agents for deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein have penetrated the U.S. command in Iraq, ABCNEWS has learned. As a result, they have the potential to undermine U.S. authority.

Among the documents found in Saddam's briefcase when he was captured last weekend was a list of names of Iraqis who have been working with the United States — either in the Iraqi security forces or the Coalition Provisional Authority — and are feeding information to the insurgents, a U.S. official told ABCNEWS.

"We were badly infiltrated," said the official, adding that finding the list of names is a "gold mine."

The United States has been rapidly recruiting Iraqis to take over security in the war-torn nation. Some 162,000 Iraqis have been trained in the areas of civil defense, police and other security activities since May.

On a recent trip to Baghdad, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was told by the commander of the U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division that every two or three weeks the military discovers someone who should not have made it through the vetting process.

[JaySherman]

1. Sure they aren't on the DOD payroll?

[grasswire]

2. oh my

oh my

(If this info can be trusted.)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

3. Are they sure the information wasn't planted to cause the U.S. to...

...eliminate people seen as enemies of Saddam?

[rooboy]

Let me get this straight...

Saddam's hiding in dirt holes with a suitcase full of cash and a virtual filing cabinet of documents? I suppose the bastard was running a thriving Avon business as well...

[TankLV]

24. Amway, not Avon!

hee hee!

[Military Brat]

4. Damn. It happens every war, doesn't it?

Just when you thought you had it all figured out. Right, Rummy?

[Journeyman]

5. There's that word again. . .

"Vetted." It's the BushCo word. The Harken deal was completely "vetted." The Energy bill was "completely vetted." The CIA "vetted" the State of Union address. All Iraqis hired by the US are sent through a "vetting" process.

As Inigio Montoya wryly observed: ""I do not
think that means what you think that means."

[tlcandie]

18. According the the lastest edition of Mother JOnes ...

"The Lie Factory" which was presented on Democracy NOW! the Special Operations Dept. is the VETTING office which removed vetting of all intelligence from the CIA and any other FORMER intelligence offices!

This was backed up by a former LT. COL., now retired, and is thoroughly repulsed by the lies and deceit when she was transferred here from the Africa office.

I have an appointment and have to run, but I've been trying to find the MOther Jones report. I will try to find it at a news stand. It is the most recent issue.

[Guaranteed]

19. LOL!

:)

[Journeyman]

6. double post deleted

inadvertently posted twice.

[Gloria]

7. Wait a minute here, Rummy! I found and posted articles about how

they were in such a rush to man the barricades that they KNEW that shortcuts were being taken with the vetting process. It was obvious that people would be slipping through the cracks. This is all because of the initial screwup with the Iraqi army being disbanded so quickly....

What incompetents....

[Bozita]

8. Be sure to clean your chimney. Santa's coming

[alfredo]

9. Then you will have to clean in again.

a chimney colonic.

[bemildred]

10. Right.

I rectum everything will be fine now that we have plugged
up those leaks that Saddam was hiding from us. No more
undermining of US authority from here on out, I betcha.

[Cocoa]

11. giving the appearance that the capture means something

I suspect it means nothing.

I was under the impression that the coalition was totally isolated from ANY Iraqis, that the "Green Zone" was like an island of America in the middle of Baghdad, with walls and razor wire keeping any Iraqis out.

[Bozita]

12. Santa's gonna be good to you, Cocoa

yessirree

[DoYouEverWonder]

26. You don't think those white folks

are going to do their own laundry or cooking, now do you?

Seriously, there are a fair number of Iraqis who work in the green zone, including members of the Iraqi Coalition or whatever they call it, which is housed in the green zone.

[Dover]

13. Like all good fiction, you have to suspend belief in order to buy

into the storyline.

[ze_dscherman]

14. I smell something

Loads of Bullshit. It is against all fundamental rules of guerilla warfare or clandestine operations to keep written lists of informants. Keeping them close to the "most wanted" person in the whole country, would be utterly dumb.

[htuttle]

16. Saddam running around with a NOC list a bad idea?

Not if the list is actually full of people Saddam wants the Americans to get rid of.

If I were them, I wouldn't be so trusting of things handed on a silver platter -- especially in Iraq.

[ze_dscherman]

17. Or if it's a planted list of people others would like to ged rid off -nt-

nt

[Journeyman]

22. During the HUAC hearings in the '50s. . .

there was much talk of accused people possessing "membership cards" in the Communist Party. Yet the CP denied ever issuing cards of any sort, precisely for their fear they would be used in just such a witch hunt. I believe we're seeing a replay of a once fruitful lie.

[TheWebHead]

15. this suitcase bullshit doesn't pass the sniff test

As soon as I started hearing stories about this suitcase, I wondered why the hell they were making the details public. They're basically tipping off people. I think they're bluffing hoping that by saying they have this info, those that planned on attacking us or those who've penetrated our command will go into hiding instead, knowing they've been ID'ed.

[GRClarkesq]

20. I wondered when this was gonna happen

With the rush to Iraqify the war against deadenders/fedayeen/terrorists etc. it seemed a ready made opportunity for infiltration by the opposition. If Saddam planned ahead he could have fixed the records for loyalists so they would seem more acceptable for acceptance into the new Iraqi police/military.

Whoever is in charge of creating the new Iraqi forces had to know the risk of infiltration. In order to get the Iraqi troop numbers up for the press releases it seems the risk was ignored, or perhaps fixed later.

One battalion of trustworthy Iraqi troops would be more useful than many more that leak your every move to the opposition.

The Iraqi army should have been kept on the payroll just to keep them off the street. Have them build roads or something. Build new forces from scratch slowly.

[pinto]

21. good point. post 18, above, refers to the vetting process being assumed

by Pentagon SpecOps, and taken from CIA/intel agencies with the experience...this is a war fought first for an ideology and administered to fit that ideology..reality continues to be bothersome.....

ed for sp

[tlcandie]

23. British cried foul as well during the Ireland mess and said

they were importing mercenaries etc... same song different verse.

Listen to Edward Moloney on Democracy NOW! this am regarding similiarities between the Ireland/IRA/Britian conflict and Iraq:

http://www.democracynow.org/index.pl

Moloney is near the end of the program, but you might want to listen to it all! :hi:

[kainah]

25. And, since there are a finite number of terrorists

now that we have this nice list, we can just get rid of them. Because, of course, we aren't doing anything to create terrorists. Because we are the good guys.

It's all pretty easy to understand, if you just try. </sarcasm>