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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:30 PM
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Some progress may mean hope for Baghdad
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070314/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_baghdad_security



Some progress may mean hope for Baghdad
By ROBERT H. REID

BAGHDAD - Bomb deaths have gone down 30 percent in Baghdad since the U.S.-led security crackdown began a month ago. Execution-style slayings are down by nearly half.

The once frequent sound of weapons has been reduced to episodic, and downtown shoppers have returned to outdoor markets — favored targets of car bombers.

There are signs of progress in the campaign to restore order in Iraq, starting with its capital city.

But while many Iraqis are encouraged, they remain skeptical how long the relative calm will last. Each bombing renews fears that the horror is returning. Shiite militias and Sunni insurgents are still around, perhaps just lying low or hiding outside the city until the operation is over.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:33 PM
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1. Yup, that's why I'm afraid
we'll be there forever.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:33 PM
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2. Short term gains
designed to keep the lemmings fed, fat, dumb and happy. We are not winning. Our enemies just slink away and wait their next opportunity. As we speak, the right wing noise machine is figuring out how to spin the upcoming "surge" in Taliban attacks in Afghanistan as soon as the weather gets better.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:43 PM
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4. That Rolling Stone roundtable
said the "surge" is only delaying the inevitable.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 06:13 PM
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7. like roaches..
running from Raid insecticide...they'll be back!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 02:34 PM
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3. The combined, concentrated might of the American wehrmacht
We can put a lid on this bubbling cauldron using the combined, concentrated power of the American wehrmacht. The Iraqis are smart enough to wonder for how long. Is the U.S. media reporting this smart enough to wonder the same thing? Or is a short-term downturn (not even a cessation) of violence "good enough" to "vindicate" the "surge" "strategy"?

I think we all know the answer by now.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 03:35 PM
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5. Don't believe it:
Juan Cole puts the lie to these claims of "some success":

In Iraq, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki visited the Sunni Arab stronghold of Ramadi. Although the US press is describing Ramadi as pacified, I fear they are being overly optimistic. Al-Maliki flew there in a US military helicopter, and US troops stationed near there had imposed a curfew on the city that forbade citizens to circulate in the streets, just the day before. I.e. this photo-op visit is bogus and can only take place because the US military is managing it so as to produce an image of pacification.

There was recently a big demonstration in Ramadi against the US military for holding a local woman as a detainee. On March 4, I reported, "Huge Bomb at Ramadi Kills 12, Wounds 22." On February 27, I wrote: "In Ramadi, a major Sunni Arab city west of Baghdad, a suicide bomber used ambulance to attack a police station, killing 14 and wounding 10. Al-Hayat reports in Arabic that the Sunni imam of the Mu'awiya Mosque in Ramadi was killed on Monday, as part of an ongoing conflict between tribal forces and "al-Qaeda" (Salafi Jihadis) in al-Anbar.' Etc., etc. The guerrillas who planned these operations out have not turned over a new leaf all of a sudden.

The US press is so busy looking for signs of improvement that they have already forgotten about the slaughter of hundreds of Shiite pilgrims just last week, and are interpreting the relative calm of Sunday and Monday as some sort of turning point. Unlikely.

In fact on Wednesday it was reported that police had found 17 bodies in the streets of Baghdad. A judge was assassinated in broad daylight. Guerrillas fired katyushas at the posh Karrada district. Militiamen shot 4 men at a Sunni mosque in the southern Risala district. In the northern city of Mosul, police found 4 bodies. There were scattered bombings and assassinations elsewhere in the country.

http://www.juancole.com/2007/03/house-majority-leader-nancy-pelosi-got.html

Is the Bush surge already failing?
by Juan Cole
With plenty of warning of the U.S. escalation, the Shiite Mahdi Army is lying low. Meanwhile, the Iraqi army and the much better equipped and trained U.S. military have made no appreciable progress against the real drivers of the country's civil war, Sunni Arab guerrillas, who have so far adapted successfully to the new deployments. And perhaps most important, a new spate of massive and deadly bombings has spread insecurity and further compromised the Iraqi government.

The neo-Baathists, Iraqi nationalists and Muslim fundamentalists who make up the insurgency have responded in several ways to the U.S. decision to put extra troops into Anbar Province and Baghdad. First, they have stood their ground, refusing to cede these two pieces of territory to the Americans or the Iraqi government, and they have changed their military tactics.

The Sunni Arab fighters appear to have made a tactical decision to target U.S. helicopters, and perhaps they have recently gotten hold, in the shadowy global arms market, of more sophisticated shoulder-held missile launchers. They have shot down eight U.S. helicopters in the past two months, several of them after the new security plan began. This tactic has made it more difficult for the U.S. to give American and Iraqi troops close air support, and has forced the U.S. to deploy bombers from greater altitudes against suspected guerrilla safe houses. In turn, bombing from a distance increases the likelihood that the U.S. will make a mistake and hit a house full of civilians, providing Iraqi, Arab and European media with heartbreaking footage of children being dug out of the rubble.

The guerrillas have not ceased their attacks in Anbar Province, a key focus of the escalation, where the U.S. military is adding some 4,000 extra troops. Guerrillas have bombed police stations and other sites in major cities like Ramadi and Tikrit on more than one occasion, sometimes killing and wounding dozens of people at a time. On Feb. 24 in Habbaniya, another town in Anbar, guerrillas used a truck bomb to attack a Sunni mosque that was cooperating with the Americans, killing 45 and wounding 110. They have killed a number of U.S. soldiers and Marines.

At the same time that some cells have refused to fall silent or go underground in Baghdad and Anbar, the Sunni Arab guerrillas have shifted some of their attacks to Diyala and Ninevah Provinces, which have Sunni Arab majorities but are not included in the new security arrangements. On Monday, they used a roadside bomb to kill six U.S. troops in Salahuddin Province, and another three in Diyala Province. In February, attacks on U.S. troops were up 70 percent in Diyala, according to the Associated Press. Diyala has a Sunni Arab majority, but because the Sunnis boycotted the last provincial elections, the provincial government, the police and the federal troops are all predominantly Shiite. Locally, American forces are seen primarily as enablers of the Shiite fundamentalist Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq. It is not just Diyala. Guerrillas in recent months have driven thousands of Kurds from the large northern city of Mosul, and they have resorted to death squad tactics, often leaving half a dozen bodies in the street at night.

(more)

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2007/03/08/surge/index_np.html


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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 03:45 PM
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6. oh really?....don't believe it!


Photo: Iraqi citizens plead with foreign occupation soldiers from U.S. 2nd Platoon Charlie Troop, 3rd Squadron of the 61st Cavalry Regiment not to destroy their belongings. They are forced at gunpoint to get out of their own home while the foreigners search it, taking away whatever they want. (GI Special 5C13 caption)


?

Photo: File photo shows a U.S. soldier kicking open a cupboard in a building to search for suspicious items while on a joint patrol with Iraqi National police in a suburb of Baghdad March 7, 2007. (Fabrizio Bensch/Reuters)


http://dailywarnewsblog.com/


lots of stories about the Iraqi people and the deaths occuring everyday.....
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 06:27 PM
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8. Why in the world kick open a cupboard?
If he is afraid someone may be hiding inside then standing in front of it like that is not very clever.

And people wonder why the Iraqis are not happy with us being there.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-14-07 08:28 PM
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9. WINNING HEARTS AND MINDS
I wonder if anyone got raped?
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