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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:52 PM
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Breaking: Gonzales Apologizes To Prosecutors
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 12:17 AM by utopiansecretagent
Posted on Fri, Mar. 16, 2007

Gonzales apologizes to prosecutors
By Marisa Taylor and Margaret Talev
McClatchy Newspapers


WASHINGTON - Attorney General Alberto Gonzales apologized to the nation's 93 U.S. attorneys in a conference call Friday as he tried to hold on to his job amid the scandal over the firings of eight federal prosecutors.

In another move to repair his credibility, Gonzales named a respected U.S. attorney from Virginia, Chuck Rosenberg, as his interim chief of staff to replace Kyle Sampson, who stepped down because of his involvement in the controversy.

-SNIP-

Gonzales apologized to the prosecutors not for the firings but for their execution, including for inaccurate public statements about poor job performance, according to people familiar with the afternoon conference call.

"It shouldn't have happened," Gonzales said, according to one lawyer familiar with the conversation. The lawyer, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the matter, said Gonzales acknowledged that he'd seemed too detached during his news conference earlier this week. He told the prosecutors that he "should have known" about the dismissal planning by his former chief of staff.



more:
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/nation/16921226.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_nation
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:54 PM
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1. So the Friday News Dunp has moved to Saturday morning now?
Edited on Fri Mar-16-07 11:55 PM by dbt
Get the news before it gets you!
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:58 PM
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6. Found this via TPM posted at 11:29pm EST. n/t
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 12:08 AM by utopiansecretagent
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:55 PM
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2. Poor guy, he's still trying to spin it. Give it up. nm
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:56 PM
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3. Apologizing isn't the answer. Reinstating them is.
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 12:36 AM by rocknation
After which, you RESIGN. Nowhere not good enough, Gonzo!!!!

:headbang:
rocknation
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bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #3
31. Clark/Obama eh?
I rather like that rocknation.
Quite a lot in fact.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #31
58. Yea...I like that Combo too.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #31
81. Make it Obama/Clark, and I'll sign up. n/t
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #3
56. "I'm sorry I fucked you over. Peace."
:hippie:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #56
66. Or....
"I'm sorry I fucked you over. No offense".
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #66
70. I'm sorry I got caught fucking you over
Move on people I'm not going to fire you unless a Republican calls me to have you canned.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:56 PM
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4. Yesterday, I thought this guy ...
... was a lying, torture-advocating, arrogant, self-serving, prick.

After reading this, I must admit ...

I now think he's a pathetic lying, torture-advocating, arrogant, self-serving, prick.

Juts goes to show how you can change your mind about people.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:42 AM
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11. So true.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:44 AM
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12. Wait. The 93 who hold office NOW?
That's who he apologized to? The toadies who kept their jobs and the toadies who took the jobs of the competent professionals?

Well, golly. That sure means a lot.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #12
32. That would be the 85 who went along with the politicization
of their jobs as demanded, plus the 8 replacements who promised fealty to Rove as a condition of employment.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 02:18 AM
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17. I know this...
Gonzo has ALWAYS been a coward.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:27 AM
Response to Reply #4
30. We Need To Get You A Drummer for the Rimshots, Nance!
LOL> Thanks for the early morning chuckle.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #30
40. rimshot guy:
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Useless in FL Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #4
47. Perfect!
 :P omigod - that was so perfect.  Thanks for the laugh, I
really needed it!  
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #47
60. Welcome to DU, (not at all) Useless in FL ...
you will find MUCH to make you laugh here on DU -- along with much to make you think, to question, to debate, to discuss ... you're in for a WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE!

:hi:
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
64. LOL. Now THAT'S funny. :-) n/t
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #4
74. Nance...You have a way with words.
You should try writing sometimes

:hi: :yourock: :patriot:
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:58 PM
Response to Original message
5. Screw this evil man who advised bush on habeus corpur and condoned
torture.He needs to be sent to guantanamo
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:01 AM
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7. Republican mindset: Warm Buttery Rimjobs pay off everything.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:09 AM
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8. In other news, Alberto Gonzalez seen checking into...and back out of Promises n/t
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:17 AM
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9. Meet Chuck Rosenberg
http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/vae/usattorney.html

United States Attorney
Eastern District of Virginia
Chuck Rosenberg

Chuck Rosenberg was appointed by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in March 2006 to serve as the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. He was subsequently nominated to that position by President George Bush and confirmed by the United States Senate, unanimously, on June 13, 2006.

As the chief federal law enforcement officer for the District, which includes offices in Alexandria, Newport News, Norfolk and Richmond, Mr. Rosenberg supervises the prosecution of all federal crimes, and the litigation of all civil matters in which the federal government has an interest.

Mr. Rosenberg has spent most of his professional career in public service. From June 2005 until March 2006, he served as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Texas. Prior to that, he served in several senior posts at the Department of Justice where his work focused on counterterrorism, counterintelligence, and national security matters, including as: Chief of Staff to Deputy Attorney General James B. Comey, Counselor to Attorney General John Ashcroft; and, before that, as Counsel to FBI Director Robert S. Mueller, III.

Before joining the FBI, Mr. Rosenberg was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, in Norfolk and, subsequently, in Alexandria. There he prosecuted financial fraud crimes, violent crimes, and espionage cases. During the last two years of his tenure as a federal prosecutor in Alexandria, Mr. Rosenberg supervised that office's Major Crimes Unit - the unit that prosecuted numerous prominent spy cases. While in private practice with the law firm of Hunton & Williams, Mr. Rosenberg served as an NBC legal analyst, appearing frequently on television. He is a graduate of Tufts University (B.A.), Harvard University (M.P.P) and the University of Virginia (J.D.).
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eringer Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:27 PM
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36. The Future is Now
Looks like Bush let Gonzo pick his successor. Impressive credentials. Selecting Chuck "Rosie" Rosenberg will be like turning the gas off on the stove. Unfortunately for Gonzo, he is the "gas" that must be turned off. Good Riddance!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #36
48. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #9
39. a *co man through and through
http://www.rtnda.org/foi/Wimmer.pdf

this documents lists the inaccuracies re: statement made by "Chuck" Rosenberg re: the Free Flow of Information Act

This guy fully intends to continue business as usual for * and, if possible to clamp down even harder on our rights.

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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:23 AM
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10. Too little, too late
Too incompetent
Too loyal to the wrong people
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #10
57. And
a lousy lawyer. The law school that gave him a degree must be lowering tuition every time Gonzo opens his mouth. He's a disgrace to his profession, his country and human dignity. The son-of-a-bitch needs to be humiliated.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:48 AM
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13. He apologizes to the ones he DIDN'T fire?
For making "inaccurate public statements about poor job performance" of the attorneys that he DID fire?

Isn't he apologizing to wrong people here?

Dayum, he even screws up his 'sorrys'!



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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #13
25. No, he's apologizing to the right people...
...he's apologizing to the remaining "Bushies" who his chief of staff's emails exposed as Bush loyalists rather than upholders of legal justice.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #25
38. Exactly, his apology is basically
"I'm sorry I exposed you all as toadies.?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #38
71. you hit it on the head.
He exposed several things with this stunt. He exposed how precarious their jobs are, if they fail to attack Democrat Party members in court; he exposed how little respect he has for the rule of law; he exposed how seemy the GOP party really is, and worst of all, he exposed how many of them are following bootlicking orders to attack the Democrat Party.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:48 AM
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14. USA Today: Gonzales Brings In New Chief of Staff
Gonzales brings in new chief of staff
Updated 7h 17m ago

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Reuters


By Kevin Johnson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Attorney General Alberto Gonzales reached into the ranks of U.S. attorneys for an interim chief of staff Friday to replace Kyle Sampson, who resigned earlier this week for his role in the Justice Department's abrupt dismissal of eight federal prosecutors.

Gonzales named Chuck Rosenberg, the chief federal prosecutor for the Eastern District of Virginia in Alexandria, to serve as his closest advisor at a time when several Democrats and some Republicans in Congress have called for the attorney general to resign over his handling of prosecutors' firings.

Rosenberg was chief of staff to former deputy attorney general James Comey. Other previous jobs included counselor to former attorney general John Ashcroft and counsel to FBI Director Robert Mueller.

Meanwhile, the Democrat-controlled Senate and House Judiciary committees continued to press for the testimony of several White House officials in their investigations of the matter.

At the top of that list of possible witnesses is White House political strategist Karl Rove, whose name surfaced Thursday in recently-disclosed e-mails in which he inquired in January 2005 about the administration's replacement plan for U.S. attorneys.

more:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-16-gonzales_N.htm?csp=34

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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:01 AM
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15. Dead Man Walking
"I apologize to the victims."

Too little, too late. Unlike some condemned prisoners, he didn't even apologize to his victims. Pathetic and desperate.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 01:42 AM
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16. "It shouldn't have happened." Wrong. You, as Attorney General, shouldn't have happened.
More to the point: Bush, as President, shouldn't have happened.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 02:49 AM
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18. "He told the prosecutors that he "should have known"..." ???
keep digging that hole!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #18
53. That's what it looks like to me
The longer they drag this out, the more damage it's going to do them. What I want to know is when the rest of the Republics will wake up and realize that covering up for Bush and his cronies is hurting them. I honestly thought that after the "thumpin'" they took in November, the ones left would try to save their own skins.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 02:58 AM
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19. Just like every GOP member. Be an asshole, get caught, and apologize.
Hoping that it will get you off. If that doesn't work, and there's possible jail time involved, cue the crying, and be sure to bring up how you have let down Jesus.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:40 AM
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65. One other step you forgot: Blame it on liquor
Then enter rehab for a month to get away from the TV cameras.

I'm sure we'll have Gonzo's tearful, shitfaced confession shortly.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #65
80. Ah, thanks. I forgot that one.
It's a must
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:38 AM
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20. Is there a book called, "The Art of The Republican Non-Apology"?
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 06:39 AM by IanDB1
Republican Non-Apology Number One: The Blame The Victim Apology.

Republican: You're an asshole.
Guy: Hey! I'm offended that you called me an asshole! I demand an apology.
Republican: I'm sorry if you were offended by me calling you an asshole.
Guy: Somehow, that doesn't sound very apolgetic.
Republican: I'm sorry if that doesn't sound apologetic to you.


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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #20
26. I'm sorry I stepped in front of your gun, Mr. Cheney.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #20
50. Spot on!
:rofl:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:07 AM
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21. Gonzo apologizing?? Wow! Things are very dire indeed. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:21 AM
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22. So? He apologized. Big fucking woo
that's right up there with the other favorite ("I take responsibility") of those wanting to appear to take responsibility without actually having to be held accountable for their actions




It's all bullshit
It's all just lip service

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:24 AM
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23. Next stop: Rehab! It's the tried-and-true GOP way.
"It shouldn't have happened," Gonzales said, according to one lawyer familiar with the conversation. The lawyer, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the matter, said Gonzales acknowledged that he'd seemed too detached during his news conference earlier this week. He told the prosecutors that he "should have known" about the dismissal planning by his former chief of staff.

Blame it on the staff; blame it on the staff.
You'll feel so much better, you will even laugh!
Join the accusation; save the bleeding nation.
Get it off your shoulders; blame it on the staff.


My apologies to the great Kris Kristofferson.






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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 08:17 AM
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24. They're compassionate and they're conservative
'nuf said
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:07 AM
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27. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. RESTORE THEIR JOBS AND RESIGN
The bigger story here is still not being widely talked about, which is what has happened when prosecutors did what the White House wanted. Which cases were dropped and which frivolous cases were pursued for political purposes?

There are surely many prosecutors who did what they needed to do to keep their jobs.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #27
77. Bingo!
The US Attorneys Office, as well as the Justice Department, has zero credibility left. Those emails point out that US attorneys are nothing more than administration lackeys. Or if they aren't they will be dealt with.

Personally I won't feel safe until the next hopefully Democratic president fires all of them and replaces them with people more interested in the rule of law than in their own partisan agendas and covering the asses of their political allies.

It is amazing how far a country can fall in just six short years. And just how much damage one crooked administration can do.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:14 AM
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28. well, Bush did tell him he had work to do on the Hill (damage control)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:14 AM
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29. well, Bush did tell him he had work to do on the Hill (damage control)
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Mr. Ected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:47 PM
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33. The Ass Is Sorry
Time to get his sorry ass out of Washington.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 03:58 PM
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34. LIAR! Gets to apologize and he
keeps his job? Still gonna be a big problem for him pushing the bushit agenda now. Be lookin' at that proven LIAR extra Closely.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:17 PM
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35. Gonzo's sorry he got caught.
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Presidentcokedupfratboy Donating Member (994 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 04:28 PM
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37. "Sorry I despoiled the integrity of the DOJ"
Well, not really. This bunch has never given a good god-damn about our legal system and its proper administration. They bend or make up new rules all the time with little regard for The Constitution, which Our Worst President Ever, GW Bush, allegedly referred to as a "Goddam piece of paper."
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:00 PM
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41. SHOULD HAVE KNOWN? Utter bullshit
He told the prosecutors that he "should have known" about the dismissal planning by his former chief of staff.

He knew. He knew ALL about it. So did Rove. So did Bush.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:12 PM
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42. "Dumber than a bag of hammers"...
Gonzo Lied to Congress, Lied to the US Attorneys, Lied to the News Media and screwed the States where the attorneys were fired (ie "US" in Nevada)? Not to mention the fired US Attorneys, their families and the public depending on the cases they were working on?

Apology NOT accepted! The only acceptable "apology" is "don't let the door hit your backside on your way out!"!!!!!

:dilemma: This is the smartest, dumb guy I ever saw! Some people think "the definition of success is they are too dumb to know when to quit".
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:20 PM
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43. I can't wait for the Iraq apology
"Hey, I'm really sorry about that invasion thing. And all the dead and wounded. And the trashed infrastructure. And the DU we left sprinkled around. Again, we're really sorry."
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potisok Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:25 PM
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44. Could be apologizing for his "deliberate ignorance"
By Glenn W. Smith
t r u t h o u t | Guest Contributor

Saturday 17 March 2007

With no apparent shame, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales pleaded the Ken Lay defense, also known by his own prosecutors as the "Aw, shucks" defense or the "deliberate ignorance" defense in his explanation of the political executions of United States attorneys by his office and the White House.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #44
51. Welcome to DU
:hi:
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 05:44 PM
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45. Basically
What he's saying is that he's not terribly sorry that he had planned to fuck the 93 US Attorneys but rather that he did so badly and that he got found out. And he does this to 93 people that his own administration appointed in the first place. Imagine what he would more than willingly do to democrats!

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Lord Balto Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:13 PM
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46. It Wasn't MEEEEEEEE!
What a disgusting excuse for a human being.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #46
52. Welcome to DU!
:hi:

My waving arm is getting tired. :)
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 06:54 PM
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54. I have no sympathy for an attorney who condones torture and calls the
Geneva Accord quaint. I have no compunction about calling for the impeachment of an attorney who sanctions spying on the American people and who is too busy to respond to Congress and lies when he does. The Bush administration is a big piece of crap.
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:05 PM
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55. Notice how they're trying to spin this.
Notice how they're trying to spin this. It's not that the firings were improper, the problem was that they were handled improperly. Give me a break! :eyes:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 09:00 PM
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59. TLTL - too little too late, Gonzo. It is too late for apologies. Besides, one apologizes wnen one
does harm by accident - when it is deliberate, some penance is required. At this point the only appropriate penance is resigning.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:24 PM
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61. Could it be...
... this was about something else? Why hold this meeting? Didn't he go talk to the White House yesterday? This makes no real sense - aggressive, vindictive people such as these do not beg or plead for sympathy & understanding - They go for the throat and the jugular?

Call me paranoid but I think this was a warning meeting to the rest of the US Attorneys not to discuss with Congress the "other" illegal (my words) "voter fraud" investigations details as it is illegal to discuss ongoing investigations with Congress? Not to mention the "veil threat" of also being replaced at the pleasure of the President?

Something smells fishy :nuke: as they circle the wagons of Rove & Gonzales?
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:08 AM
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62. Stalin once said...
If you need to lie to the people, any lie will do as long as they believe it. Looks like Gonzales and his puppeteers in the White House were using a similar approach to Stalin's, although they underestimated the response that would ensue following their clumsily concocted rationale for the firings. Too bad, the genie's out of the bottle now, joining all the other genies that have escaped in recent months.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 12:22 AM
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63. it's because they aren't lawyers
well sure, Gonzales and Miers are lawyers, technically, but they have no respect for the law. I was just out tonight with a young Republican lawyer, brilliant, if misguided (she worked for the Bush campaign before going private, although she regrets it if you get enough rum into her) anyway, she is wired into the republican legal world, and was talking about the absolute rage in the community at all this. These are people who LIKE Bush, and they can't stand the disrespect to the law that all this entailed. They are not happy at all, it started with the failed Miers appointment, and is getting worse. the Bushies are actually losing what is left of the intellectual power of the conservative wing of the US, and one thing to learn, once you piss off the lawyers, you are in trouble.
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Lord Balto Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 06:08 PM
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79. What Stalin Really Said
And I quote: "If they won't play ball, give them a nice long vacation in Siberia. And if that doesn't work, put them in a small room with a horny yak."

Seriously, one has to wonder how many of these Cold War Era "quotations" from Lenin and Stalin hold any water. The fact is that Stalin in particular was such an absolute dictator that he didn't have to say anything except "Do it!" and maybe an occasional "You got a good pair of snowshoes?"
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 08:08 AM
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67. what a pos,,like a 12 year old boy in clothes way too big for him
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IWantAChange Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:41 AM
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68. Gonzo is the newest Repuke poster child - pathetic, 'sorry' and wholly incompetent.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 09:42 AM
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69. Torches and Pitchforks!!!
What the hell are we waiting for?!?!?

Oh... That's right... we're a bunch of pussies!
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:13 AM
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72. According to the AP, he didn't even apologize...
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 10:20 AM
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73. Stick a fork in Gonzo
he's done. When Leahy gets to do his thing, Rove is next and maybe it will go higher and higher. Then we will get our first woman president, Nancy Pelosi! What a wet dream scenario for us long-suffering Democrats.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:02 PM
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75. Schumer does not expect Gonzalez to last out the week.
"I think it's highly unlikely he survives. I wouldn't be surprised if a week from now he is no longer attorney general," Schumer said. Gonzales is due to return to the committee to testify on the firing of eight U.S. attorneys. Democrats allege the abrupt firings were for political reasons.


"The Justice Department has actually agreed to be cooperative, and this week the staff will take depositions of five Justice Department officials," Schumer said. "Next week we will have them come to hearings. They've also given us all the documents" related to the firings.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2771555
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:36 PM
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76. Inaccurate public statements?
Come on Gonzo! In the real world they are called lies. It amazes me how many times the only thing republicans have to fall back on is lies, or incompetence.

:eyes:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-18-07 03:55 PM
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78. A brilliant George C Scott impersonation.



That scene where General Patton was on the balcony apologizing to the troops (because he was told to) was positively brilliant.


:rofl: :rofl:






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