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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:33 PM
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Saddam's Former Duputy Hanged in Iraq
Source: AP

BAGHDAD (AP) -- Saddam Hussein's former deputy was hanged before dawn Monday for the killings of 148 Shiites, an official with the prime minister's office said.

Taha Yassin Ramadan, who was Saddam's vice president


Read more: http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=WDUN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



yippee, another one dead. This doesnt help out the Bushies any.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:35 PM
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1. good we have won .. time to go home.
Time to declare victory and get the hell out.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:39 PM
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2. that's what bush said earlier today...
we beat Saddam, time to go home. We won. Hell, I'd say that Bush won the war if he would bring the troops home now before another one gets hurt. give him the f'n Nobel Peace Prize. I dont care, Troops Home Now
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:41 PM
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3. Build a statue to him ASAP Bush the Greatest Victor of all Times
Do whatever and let us get the hell out.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:42 PM
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4. And what of Tariq Aziz?
Does he get a hanging, or what?

He was the Foreign Minister, representative and official contact for Saddam.

Where is he now?
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Big Pappa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:19 PM
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Has he even been
convicted of anything yet? During GW1 he was always on the tube. Now you never hear about him.
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Big Pappa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:19 PM
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17. Has he even been
convicted of anything yet? During GW1 he was always on the tube. Now you never hear about him.
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dEMOK Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:18 AM
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31. Good Question - I Believe This Is Your Answer...
"...Tariq Aziz, who as foreign minister was the most public face of Saddam's regime to the outside world, has not been charged in any cases, but is being held by US troops."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Iraq_-_Whos_next/articleshow/1782193.cms

Typical abrogation of the Geneva Conventions. :eyes:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:44 PM
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5. yippee?
Do you think that justice was served here? Was there a fair trial? Due process?

This is just one more victim of our criminal invasion of Iraq. He may not have been a nice guy, he might have been a bloody thug guilty of everything he was charged with, but he did not receive a fair trial, justice was not served.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:11 PM
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6. Sadams Vice President Hanged.
Source: MSNBC

Sadam VP Hanged

No link yet.



Just on MSNBC.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:11 PM
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7. Do you know his name?
?
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:11 PM
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8. Um...Rumsfeld!?? Uh..no...uh...Negraponte? Uh...no...
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:55 PM
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16. Taha Yassin Ramadan, the former vice president under Saddam Hussein.
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 09:56 PM by Rhiannon12866
He was in the courtroom with Saddam, an older man, clean shaven except for a mustache.

edited for repeating myself:blush:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:46 AM
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19. Thanks.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 02:36 AM
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20. You're more than welcome.
But it doesn't much matter now, since he was hanged, as well, early this morning, Iraq time.

I don't know why I didn't think of this before. He's the man to the left of Saddam, appeared with him throughout the trial.

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BlueStateModerate Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:11 PM
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9. Link
http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/19/iraq.main/index.html

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Taha Yassin Ramadan, the former vice president under Sadam Hussein, was hanged just before dawn Tuesday, an official with the prime minister's office told The Associated Press.

Last month, Ramadan was sentenced to death by Iraq's High Tribunal for his role in the 1982 killing of 148 men and boys in Dujail. An appeals court upheld the sentence last week.

Ramadan was sentenced to life in prison in November on charges that included willful killing in the 1982 crackdown, but the next month, the tribunal's nine-member appeals chamber decided the original sentence was too lenient and ordered the court to resentence him.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:11 PM
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10. Meanwhile, Bush-Cheney have killed how many Iraqi's these past 4 years?
50,000? 100,000? 300,000?

What a joke.
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MAGICBULLET Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:11 PM
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11. that is so ridiculously sad...
is there a God if men like Bush and his cronies are able to actually sleep at night knowing what they are doing?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:23 AM
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23. I agree with you, my friend, and welcome to DU.
Meet you in the Atheist forum, to answer your question...;(

But we're very glad to have you with us, especially in these dark times...:-)

Rhiannon:hi:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 02:47 AM
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21. I agree. I remember an article that appeared in "The Onion" in 2003,
in which Saddam was supposedly boasting that he had still killed more Iraqis than George Bush*. I'm afraid that this is no longer true.:-(

Nice to see you, my friend. Give my best to WWW.:-)

Rhiannon:hi:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 11:18 AM
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24. Always good to see you posting here, too
WWW has magically transformed into Hateisnotavalue...you might see her raising hell in the Maine forum.

:hi: back atcha
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:12 PM
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29. Thanks for getting back to me, my friend!
And thanks for the info. ;) Different name, same theme, LOL. :D I'll look for her, and it's always great to see you, as well...:-)

Rhi:hi:
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:14 PM
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12. They are killing everyone who could incriminate others?
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 09:17 PM by shance
Another farewell to justice.....
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:39 PM
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13. Iraq Hangs Former Vice President
Source: CNN

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Taha Yassin Ramadan, the former vice president under Saddam Hussein, was hanged just before dawn Tuesday, an official with the prime minister's office told The Associated Press.

An official who witnessed the execution told AP measures were taken in order to prevent a repeat of what happened to Hussein's half brother, Barzan Hassan, who was decapitated on the gallows. Ramadan was weighed before the execution and the appropriate size rope was chosen, the official said.

Last month, Ramadan was sentenced to death by Iraq's High Tribunal for his role in the 1982 killing of 148 men and boys in Dujail. An appeals court upheld the sentence last week.

Ramadan was sentenced to life in prison in November on charges that included willful killing in the 1982 crackdown, but the next month, the tribunal's nine-member appeals chamber decided the original sentence was too lenient and ordered the court to resentence him.

The court's decision drew opposition from coalition officials and nongovernmental groups in Iraq, and some members of Iraq's legal advisory community suggested judges came under pressure from politicians.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/19/iraq.main/index.html
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Big Pappa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:40 PM
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14. Boy
they do work fast. I just wish they were this efficient at taking care of their own security.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 09:41 PM
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15. Oh gosh. I'm so envious!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:01 PM
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18. I hope they managed to do it without pulling his head off.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 02:53 AM
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22. Bush and Cheney should be dangling right next to him n/t
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 04:09 PM
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25. These Sunnis should have been tried at the Hague, not by Shites.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:56 AM
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26. Kick.
:kick:
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:56 AM
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27. Saddam's deputy goes to gallows
Source: The Age

SADDAM Hussein's vice-president was hanged yesterday despite protests by human rights groups that the evidence was weak and the sentence unfair.

......

Ramadan was convicted in November along with six others, including Saddam, for his role in the 1982 massacre of 148 Shiites in a small town north of Baghdad after an assassination attempt on the Iraqi president. ...Ramadan was a relatively minor figure in the trial. The accusations against him largely centred on his order that orchards and fields in the Dujayl area be bulldozed, and evidence was presented about his participation in meetings with other leaders who were more culpable in the massacres.

...Human rights groups and some government organisations, including an arm of the United Nations, have said the con- viction was the result of guilt by association and that the evidence supported conviction on lesser crimes, such as unlawful imprisonment and inhumane acts. They opposed the execution, saying the Iraqi judiciary lacked independence from political influence and that due-process rights normally afforded to defendants elsewhere were not practised.

"The trial was riddled with flaws and didn't meet international standards," said Sara Dareshori, senior counsel with Human Rights Watch in New York.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/saddams-deputy-goes-to-gallows/2007/03/20/1174153063173.html



Three things I remember about Taha Yassin Ramadan:

1. He suggested that instead of war, Bush, Saddam and their top aids should fight a duel.

2. He called the Saudi foreign minister a loser, minion and lackey.

3. In his press conferences during Shock and Awe, he always looked and sounded like he had just returned from the battlefront, which I guess he had. You could take him a lot more seriously than the American spokespeople and the opposing VP.


1. THREATS AND RESPONSES; An Iraqi Offer: Duels, Not War
October 4, 2002
An Iraqi vice president offered an unusual suggestion today for solving the American-Iraqi standoff: President Saddam Hussein and President Bush and their top aides should fight a duel to settle their differences and spare their people the ravages of war.

United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan would be the referee for the duel, which should be held in neutral territory, the vice president, Taha Yasin Ramadan, said in an interview.

Mr. Ramadan gave no sign that he was joking.

Iraq has two vice presidents. Mr. Ramadan did not say whether he or the other one, Taha Mohieddin Maruf, would take on Dick Cheney.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DE3DF163BF937A35753C1A9649C8B63&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fR%2fRamadan%2c%20Taha%20Yassin


2.Obituary: Taha Yassin Ramadan
He lambasted the Saudi foreign minister, Prince Saud al-Faisal, when the Saudis proposed that Saddam Hussein step down in early 2003 to avoid a US invasion.

"You loser. You are a minion and a lackey," he said, telling the Saudi prince to "go to hell".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2333287.stm




3. Iraqi vice president Taha Yassin Ramadan, right, leaves the press office at the ministry of information after addressing a news conference, in Baghdad, Sunday, March 23, 2003. —AP/PTI

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030324/world.htm
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:56 AM
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28. Thanks for posting.
Nice format, also.

This is just so ironic. Saddam, as well as his unfortunate crony, were supported by this country. Now?

Well, how times change.
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:04 PM
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30. ot
Any video?
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