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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:01 PM
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BBC: Do you support calls for President Bush's impeachment?
Source: BBC

Did he lie about the reasons for going to war in Iraq?

The anti-war protests across America this weekend included calls for President Bush to be impeached for crimes against the American people.

Most senior Democrats say they don't want to impeach the president, but growing numbers of ordinary Americans and town meetings are openly calling for Congress to investigate what they say are serious crimes committed by the President and his administration.

Those calling for impeachment claim President Bush lied about the reasons for taking America to war, and violated the constitution by authorising a widespread programme to spy on ordinary citizens.

Do you support those who call for President Bush's impeachment? Would impeachment distract the country from the job of government? Or are those calling for it simply unable to accept that America voted to re-elect President Bush?

Read more: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5811&edition=1&ttl=20070321024459



The Beeb's "Have Your Say" section is a message board allowing visitors to post soundbite-sized snippets of opinion on the issues of the day. Almost invariably, the responses are from the extreme-right.

Keep it up everyone! If we're hearing about moves to impeach on this side of the Atlantic, the pressure is definatly starting to show.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:26 PM
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1. Impeachment, it's happening nm
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:06 AM
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8. The momentum does seem to be building
at last
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 10:33 PM
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2. YES! K&R
The world is wondering if Americans are going to save their own nation!
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heatstreak Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:52 AM
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3. K&R
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:08 AM
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4. "America" REJECTED bush* the FIRST time - by the tune of over half a million votes...
THAT's why I have been against this WAR CRIMINAL from DAY ONE - and have been FOR his IMPEACHMENT since day two...

He was never elected in the FIRST place, and the second chance reeks...
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:08 AM
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5. Right I wouldn't hold my breath
Bottom line if the Democratic Majority in Congress cannot even caucus to get the war Defunded how will they be able to prove beyond a resonable doubt that Bush lied us into war. I mean where they have enough republicans onboard to make impeachment possible.. I mean give me a break.

The WMD argument doesn't hold water because you have to get Republicans to believe that Bush knowingly went to war in Iraq using the WMD argument while knowing all the while that there were no WMD and that he was about to prove his own lie by sending the military in.

Logically this just doesn't sit well. Anyway the Pubs will call it a witch hunt and they will circle the wagons. So impeachment is a non-starter.

Lets just concentrate on getting our leadership to take a stand on Iraq. Defund the war and bring the troops home that is true leadership and that is within their power. I believe that Madam Speaker is very politically savy and could sell this to a veto proof majority. It really is a simple matter of caucusing and taking a real stand. Republicans that want out of Iraq will stand with the Dems on it because it is a win win situation.
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 08:59 AM
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6. Bush Deserves to Be Attacked From All Fronts. Enough Murder & Sleaze!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 09:57 AM
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7. NO!!!! I support a full WH House arrest with handcuffs and life imprisonment!!!
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:16 AM
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10. Failure to impeach is to surrender our constitutional democracy.
Impeachment is defensive; not punitive.

Saving a nation trumps individual prosecution.

Retribution for violations of U.S. Code and International Law is for the Courts (both here and at the Hague), not Congress.

The Constitution -- amended and entrusted to us to protect and perfect as we strive to "form a more perfect union" -- defines who we are. It embodies our hopes for what a True America can be. It is the product of our commitment to the audacious belief that common people can design and perfect a system -- the inviolate dictates, framework, officials, powers, evolving institutions and body of law -- that balances conflicting interests in a way that reflects shared values and embodies the principle of consent.

Prosecution is no substitute for impeachment. As we work to make impeachment a reality, we should declare our intent to follow with prosecution, but http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Senator/11">Only Impeachment can rescue our Constitution; our identify; our legacy. Our intent to prosecute does not get us off the hook

Their refusal to impeach has created a national crisis graver than any natural disaster or social ill. It is bigger than any international crisis. By tolerating the intolerable, they are surrendering our capacity to recover from disaster with humanity, solve our common problems in ways that reflect our common values, and serve as a force for good in the world. When the good will of the American people is cut out of the loop, no peoples, not our fellow Americans, not other nations, can look to us for help.

Unimpeached Bush and Cheney are "clearing, holding and building" their way to a Unitary Authoritarian Executive with unbounded power.

They are playing for keeps, which is WHY they are breaking the Constitution in plain sight.

Bush and Cheney do something we have forbidden, claim it is not forbidden, and dare Members of Congress to stop them. When Members of Congress refuse to impeach -- the ONLY thing capable of stopping them -- Bush and Cheney "hold and build": **Hey America, told you it wasn't forbidden. Now, let us get on with clearing habeas (or whatever takes our fancy) out of our way.**

Members of Congress who are refusing to publicly demand impeachment are in full retreat, no ifs and or buts. Anything short of a demand for impeachment -- resolutions, legislation, finger-wagging investigations, hearings -- is surrender.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/pat_k/21">More. . .


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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 10:21 AM
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9. Impeach!
www.impeach07.org
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 11:41 AM
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11. Interesting responses at the BBC link BUT
Those opposed to impeachment say that Bush should not be impeached for lying because he didn't lie (questionable). How about ordering wiretaps and surveillance OUTSIDE what is allowed by law?
How about releasing the name of a covert CIA operative?
How about letting 9/11 happen?
I could go on and on...anyone who thinks bush & co. shouldn't be impeached is living in a dreamworld!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 06:35 PM
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12. Like I said
The Beeb's board tend to attract the RWs for some reawson.
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