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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:30 AM
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Giuliani: Give Gonzales Benefit of Doubt
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (Map) - Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, a former U.S. attorney in New York, said Thursday that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales should get "the benefit of the doubt" in the uproar over the firings of federal prosecutors.

"The president has addressed it," Giuliani said. "The attorney general's an honorable man. He's a decent man. He should be given a chance to explain and everybody should sort of give him the benefit of the doubt and allow him to explain."

Republicans and Democrats alike have questioned Gonzales' leadership and some have called for him to resign as Congress investigates whether the firings of nine prosecutors over the past year were politically motivated.

President Bush insists that the firings were appropriate and is standing by the country's top law enforcement official. Democrats argue the prosecutors were forced out for political reasons.

Read more: http://www.examiner.com/a-633121~Giuliani__Give_Gonzales_Benefit_of_Doubt.html
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:32 AM
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1. No Way, Rudy
There is no doubt left to give here. These guys are all crooks. Lock 'em up.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:34 AM
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3. I'd rather...
give Gonzo a pair of nice link bracelets, an orange jumpsuit to match and a small cage to be locked in....no doubt about it...
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 06:02 PM
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29. Decent man - says Geneva Conventions are quaint and he gives us Abu Ghraib.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:32 AM
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2. I'd love to let him explain it
He can do it in public, and under oath. If he's not going to lie why not let them administer an oath?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:39 AM
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9. Yeah, really. We've already offered them the stage, the microphone...

... and the opportunity to tell the world exactly what the situation is.

But they've scattered like roaches at lights-on from the very idea of it. Sworn to tell the truth... in public??? Run away!!!

So... why would any sane person contend that Gonzo et al. deserve the benefit of the doubt?

Oh, wait... technically, Rudy can't be considered sane anymore. After all, he's running for president as a Republicon, hitching his star to Bush's wagon. :D


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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:34 AM
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4. What a load of crap. n/t
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:35 AM
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5. What doubt?
:shrug:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:36 AM
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6. I don't call anyone who condones torture
honorable or decent. But then look who characterized Gonzo that way.
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:37 AM
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7. 'sort of' give him the benefit of the doubt.
wow, that's real convincing Rudy. I must say, i'm glad you've aligned yourself this way on this issue, it is certainly going to do you more harm than good.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:39 AM
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8. How Many Times Does He Deserve The BOTD???
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 11:40 AM by Beetwasher
Fuck you too Rudy.

He can explain all he wants, under oath, in public. If he's got nothing to hide, he's got nothing to be afraid of by testifying under oath, in public.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:43 AM
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10. Honorable, decent but a crook so prosecute the bastard and
...let Gonzoles do his explaining under oath! :wtf:
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:46 AM
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11. Methinks Rudy That You Should Have Kept Your Mouth Shut On This Matter.....
it's gonna come back to haunt you.

You stuck by Bernie Kerik too - what did that do for you?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:47 PM
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23. Yep. THAT Homeland Security nomination went down in flames, didn't it?
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:49 AM
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12. ...
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:49 AM
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13. Just like your buddy Bernie eh? n/t
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:20 AM
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31. Rudy knows the value of a good yes man.
He and Bush understand that a loyal yes man needs proper care and feeding. While I haven't heard anything about Gonzo being a crook he does seem to have a thing about power. Bush gives him more power than any Attorney General in history. Wiretapping, torture, you name it.

Rudy let Bernie Kerik feed at the public trough. No doubt they had a good giggle together about Bernie's little love nest overlooking the smoldering ruins of the World Trade Center.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:52 AM
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14. They have lied about everything..
...and we're supposed to give him the "benefit of the doubt"???
These people must really think the American people are more stupid than we've been looking.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 11:53 AM
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15. Oh shut the fuck up
anyone that calls the Torture Czar an honorable man is someone that is no better than the Torture Czar

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:01 PM
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16. Why?
Why on earth does gonzo deserve any benefit at all.
He's been lying every time he's been given a chance to explain and it's time's up.

Rudy.. you're such a putz
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:20 PM
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17. this is rich coming from Rudy
who pre-judged every non-white person arrested or shot by the police as guilty - including 60 year old women - and deserving of the full penalty of the law or getting shot.





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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:20 PM
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18. Whatever you say, Rudy.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 12:24 PM by Feeney2
And feel free to get near my wife and daughters.:sarcasm:
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:31 PM
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19. kinda like he suggested for those in Guantanamo
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:47 PM
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20. Hey Rudy....
The Bush crime family lost the right to the benefit of the doubt about 550 crimes ago...
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:49 PM
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21. these thugs stick together don't they?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:03 PM
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22. And here I thought Giuliani was going to be the 'moderate' Republican candidate.
But now that I think about it - it was suspicious that he was in London with his security company doing one of their 'mock terror drills' when the London bus/subway was bombed.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:58 PM
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24. As Reid so aptly states it..
THe bnsh adminsitration doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. They've already used up all their benefits and the ghoul knows this.

Bye buh, rudy ghouli.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:01 PM
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25. Rudy: Gonzo has already been given the benefit
of the doubt and he decided to lie under oath. End of story.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:24 PM
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26. he either knew, and should be fired, or he didn't know, and should be fired for gross incompetence.
these are the ONLY two options, there is no "benefit of the doubt"
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:35 PM
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27. "They're all honorable...
these honorable men."

-- X-Files The Well-Manicured Man (John Neville)
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:51 PM
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28. That's very witty! I didn't realise Giuliani had such a dark sense of humour.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 05:52 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:42 PM
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30. OK - no doubt about it - HE'S GUILTY! of a lot more than we know now!
and that's an UNDERSTATEMENT!
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:55 AM
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32. This asshole is irrelevant. Where's that jerk know-it-all John McLame?
?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:05 AM
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33. bertie, here's the benefit of my doubt
I doubt you ever understood your role as Atty. Gen vs. the president's hatchet man.
I doubt that our system of justice will recover quickly once you are gone. It will take many years
I doubt that you understand simple concepts lke right from wrong.
I doubt that you will remain free of prison over the next few years.
I doubt that the world will forgive you your role in torture.
I doubt that the middle east will forgive your recent veto of Gates' plea to close gitmo
I doubt that you have any shame, empathy, or understanding outside your blind loyalty to George.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:02 AM
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34. Um...NO!
He has zero credibility. Rude-E, is either a chump or BushCo shill hack.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:15 AM
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35. Yeah. Rules against firing US Attorneys for political reasons are "quaint". Poor Gonzo.
:eyes:

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