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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:59 PM
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GAO: Iraq munitions looting widespread
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Explosives looted from Iraq munitions sites will likely continue to support terrorist attacks throughout the region, a congressional report said Thursday, finding that some sites were still not secured more than three and a half years after the war started.

Failure to guard the sites "has been costly," the Government Accountability Office report said, noting looted munitions are being used to make roadside bombs, the No. 1 killer of U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

The report recommended that the Pentagon do an Iraq-wide survey of unsecured sites and factor already identified lessons learned into future war planning.

The report is an unclassified version of a classified study compiled from November 2005 through October 2006. At the time it was completed, U.S. commanders in Iraq "stated that some remote sites have not been revisited to verify if they pose any residual risk, nor have they been physically secured."

Read more: http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/ViewArticle.aspx?id=79907&source=2
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:01 PM
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1. Another article that will be no surprise to anyone who's been
paying attention.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:01 PM
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2. jeebus...I remember posting about this years ago
I'd say unbelievable, but nothing is anymore.

K&R
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:09 PM
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4. I can't search DU right now, but I did one at NYT's and there a lots of articles
here are a few:

THE STRUGGLE FOR IRAQ: SECURITY; At Iraqi Depot, Missiles Galore And No Guards
By RAYMOND BONNER AND IAN FISHER; RAYMOND BONNER REPORTED FOR THIS ARTICLE FROM MUSAYYIB AND IAN FISHER FROM BAGHDAD.
Published: October 17, 2003
It weighs more than a thousand pounds, so carting it away could present a few logistical problems for the average looter. But the fact remains that there is a very nice 15-foot-long missile, in mint condition, there for the taking, at one of Saddam Hussein's defense factories a few miles west of here.

The missile, along with a dozen ready-to-fire 107-millimeter antitank rounds, just a few feet away, is part of a problem that the American military has only begun to grapple with: as much as one million tons of ammunition is scattered around Iraq, much of it unguarded -- like the armaments here -- simply because the United States does not have the personnel to keep watch.

On Thursday in Baghdad, an American brigadier general, Robert L. Davis, acknowledged the scope of the problem, saying that there are 105 large ammunition dumps as well as scores of smaller sites, not all of them guarded regularly. But General Davis, who is overseeing the cleanup, sought to give assurances that the Pentagon is working as fast as possible.

more: http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F00716F93F5A0C748DDDA90994DB404482

THE STRUGGLE FOR IRAQ: WEAPONS; IRAQI ARMS CACHES CITED IN ATTACKS
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By RAYMOND BONNER
Published: October 14, 2003
The two most recent suicide bombings here and virtually every other attack on American soldiers and Iraqis were carried out with explosives and matériel taken from Saddam Hussein's former weapons dumps, which are much larger than previously estimated and remain, for the most part, unguarded by American troops, allied officials said Monday.

The problem of uncounted and unguarded weapons sites is considerably greater than has previously been stated, a senior allied official said.

The American military now says that Iraq's army had nearly one million tons of weapons and ammunition, which is half again as much as the 650,000 tons that Gen. John P. Abizaid, the senior American commander in the Persian Gulf region, estimated only two weeks ago.

In separate interviews, the officials, civilian and military and from different countries, expressed concern about the potential of attackers with access to the weapons dumps to nurture violence and insecurity.

more:http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F60A13FB3A5B0C778DDDA90994DB404482

THE STRUGGLE FOR IRAQ: MUNITIONS; Security at Iraq Munitions Sites Is Vulnerable, U.S. Officials Say
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By ERIC SCHMITT WITH LOWELL BERGMAN
Published: September 6, 2003
American officials said today that about 50 munitions sites in Iraq containing explosives similar to those used in the recent major bombings had only light security and were poorly guarded.

An official from the United States Central Command, speaking on condition of anonymity, acknowledged today that the American-led military operation in Iraq did not have enough troops to heavily guard all 2,700 Iraqi munitions sites that have been identified.

Every ammunition dump has some level of security, the Central Command official said. But he added that increasing demands on American troops have meant that the military has had to reserve the heaviest security for munitions sites containing weapons like rocket-propelled grenades that could be used most readily against allied forces; that left other sites, with larger weapons like bombs and missiles, with less security or Iraqi guards who may be prone to bribes.

A Pentagon spokesman, Bryan G. Whitman, said tonight, ''All known Iraqi munitions sites are being secured by coalition forces.'' But Mr. Whitman said he could not address questions of security at each munition site, saying that would be a matter for the local ground commander.

more:http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=FA0A1FF8345C0C758CDDA00894DB404482
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:03 PM
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3. So, ... maybe it's not the Iranian "bomb factories" after all
Another Bush Bullshit Balloon bursts.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:09 PM
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5. Well if they moved the factories over to the Iraqi unguarded munition sites
it could still be Iranian bomb factories. And it could be any Joe blow on the street bomb factories.

There are there free for the taking for the last four years.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:48 PM
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6. GAO: Looted Munitions Pose New Threat (Military Failed to Secure Iraqi Munitions Sites)
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 04:06 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Associated Press

GAO: Looted munitions pose new threat
By PAULINE JELINEK, Associated Press Writer
14 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Explosives looted from Iraq munitions sites probably will continue to support terrorist attacks throughout the region, a congressional report said Thursday. It said some sites were still not secure more than 3 1/2 years after the war started.

Failure to guard the sites "has been costly," the Government Accountability Office report said, noting looted munitions are being used to make roadside bombs, the No. 1 killer of U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

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The report is an unclassified version of a classified study compiled from November 2005 through October 2006. At the time it was completed, U.S. commanders in Iraq "stated that some remote sites have not been revisited to verify if they pose any residual risk, nor have they been physically secured."

"Estimates indicate that the looted munitions will likely continue to support terrorist attacks throughout the region," the report said. The military "has taken many actions" in response to the problem but they're only "good first steps" that need to be encased in procedures for the future, it said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070322/ap_on_go_ot/us_iraq_explosives
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:48 PM
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7. And who will be held "accountable" for this????
no one...
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:48 PM
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8. Not enough troops initially
Another sign of botched implementation.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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9. For F*** sake
Kerry screamed about this at every campaign stop and they are just now getting to reporting it. Wake up Limey Fish, Hey!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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10. we knew this almost 4 years ago.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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11. Alrighty then


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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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12. But But But I was told it was IRAN that
supplied all these bombs.... My Oh My Who to believe :grr:

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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13. Tell me how this war is going "great?"
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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14. And if the munitions in the possession of Iraqi insurgents say "USA"
it can of course be safely inferred that the president of the USA has directly authorized the sale and/or use of those American weapons by the insurgents.

(...Just using the same logic BushCo has applied to allegedly Iranian-made weapons allegedly found in the hands of Shiites in Iraq).
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:49 PM
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15. so we were able to secure the oil ministry buildings...
... but screw the museums and munition dumps

:eyes:
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 06:13 PM
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16. So the Neocon Lies about it coming from Iran are now exposed?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 06:26 PM
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17. This has got to be the "D'uh" story of the week!
Didn't everyone see Al-qua-qa (or whatever the name was) with all the unguarded plastic explosives?
For Crying Out Loud!
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