Reid Says Gonzales to Leave Within Month `One Way or the Other'

[sabra]

Source: Bloomberg

March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said he doesn't expect Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to survive the uproar over the firing of eight U.S. attorneys and predicted he will be gone in a month, ``one way or the other.''

Reid, a Nevada Democrat, also said he envisions the outlines of a compromise with the Bush administration about testimony of White House officials in a probe of the firings that would allow some administration officials to testify in private without sworn testimony, as long as the deal doesn't involve Bush's top political adviser, Karl Rove.

``Certainly, Karl Rove, with his resume, would have to be under oath,'' Reid, 67, said in an interview with Bloomberg TV's ``Political Capital with Al Hunt,'' scheduled to air this weekend. ``He simply in my opinion, and I think the majority of the American people, is not trustworthy.''

...

``This is a scandal and the American people are interested in the truth, and that's always a little hard to come by, especially when you have Karl Rove involved in the scenario,'' Reid said.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aHhgpR_deFxI&refer=home

[Hepburn]

1. One way or the other?

Ummmmmmm.....does that mean either he resigns or he is impeached for lying under oath to Congress?

Popcorn, anyone? :popcorn:

[DRoseDARs]

11. Just because he resigns or gets fired I don't think it means he's immune from future prosecution.

Does it? :shrug:

[Hepburn]

25. Nope, IMO, it does not make him immune.

Just like Scooter Libby who resigned. He got nailed on 4 out of 5 criminal charges against him. We can only hope for a higher score on KKKarl, IMO!

[SquireJons]

27. Pardon Me

What I really men is... "Pardons on the House!"

When will Americans learn that the RNC is a criminal empire?

[whistle]

2. Within this month or within 30 days...the sooner the better

[Fresh_Start]

3. please oh please let him be disbarred

its the least the legal profession can do to respond to his actions

[Hepburn]

4. I assumed he is licensed in TX,, right?

So TX DUers might want to look at their State Bar site and get a complaint form. And...look at the rules of professional conduct and state on the complaint the EXACT rule that he violated.

If TX is like CA, the initial people who get the complaints are NOT lawyers nor are those who investigate the complaints....so you gotta lead them to where you want them to go. Citing the rules of Prof Conduct is a great way to start. Also: Makes their job a lot easier.

Probably a bit too premature to do this now....but it seems like it is well deserved and conduct like this? He should have his license pulled. So as this comes to light, it might be a great idea to keep facts and links and statements from Gonzo saved in order to do up one hell of a State Bar complaint.

[Fresh_Start]

5. there's another thread about filing Gonzales complaints

apparently he's calling himself a judge in his annual filings.
Since he's not a judge, arguably its a false filing.
Done multiple years in a row.

[Hepburn]

8. Wasn't he on the TX Supreme Court?

IMO, I "think" but am not sure that once one has been elevated to the bench, unless dismissed or impeached for bad conduct, one can claim this title...but I also "think" that is only socially or informally.

I would not mind working on a complaint to the TX Bar ~~ just pre-mature right now. Need ALL the info to nail him and nail him good and hard and forever. And, IMO, it is best if it comes from a TX resident since Gonzo would be licensed in TX most likely.

[LiberalFighter]

9. Once a Judge they can always refer themselves as a Judge

I don't agree but that is acceptable protocol. He use to be a judge in Texas... State Supreme Court

[Fresh_Start]

14. Didn't know that protocol

I'll see if I can find the other thread again.

[spindrifter]

7. Yes.

http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section=Member_Directory&Template=/CustomSource/MemberDirectory/Result_form_client.cfm

[Hepburn]

12. GMTA!

I was just going to post a link to that.

I found it REAL interesting on his profile that he does NOT show an admission to practice in the feddie courts. Hello?

All one has to do to be admitted basically is have a State Bar license in good standing and then take the oath from a feddie judge. It's no big deal. I got sworn in years ago. So.....what the heck is he doing as the HEAD of the DOJ and he is NOT licensed to practice in federal court???

That is VERY odd.

[spindrifter]

18. Yeah, but he didn't provide

a whole lot of info. about anything to the Tx. Bar.

[redacted]

19. Help me out here Hepburn, can't ANY citizen complain to the DC Bar?

Isn't he also extended a membership "by courtesy' to the DC Bar, such that he's also subject to their professional responsibility rules? And can't any U.S. citizen file a complaint with that bar association even if they don't live in DC?

[Hepburn]

24. I am not sure about the DC bar...

...and what they do. If he does have a courtesy membership, I would guess ~~ and I really, really am guessing ~~ that they have no authority over him and his license. Especially think this because he is licensed in the State of Texas. The place to complain, IMO, is the TX State Bar. They are the ONLY ones who could pull his license and if it looks like what he did is true ~~ and it sure does at this point ~~ then he more than deserves to have his license pulled.

[redacted]

31. Thanks for the reply. So we need TX citizens to complain to

the Texas bar. My in-laws live in Houston. Is there an online form I can send them to?

BTW, keep that Scottie away from wet food!!!

[Hepburn]

15. TX Rules of Professional Conduct

Here's a link:

http://www.texasbar.com/Template.cfm?Section=Texas_Disciplinary_Rules&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=2203

And just reading the title page, I can see a few violations immediately ~~ like having a conflict. He is investigating the firing of the USAttys and HE is the ONE who approved it!?!?!?! Talk about a violation of THAT rule. Well, there is one...and I have not even read this yet so I am sure there are a few more like perjury and misleading a tribunal.

Bookmarked this page ~~ for further reference! :evilgrin:

[sakabatou]

29. That would be sweet

[Melissa G]

6. So he's saying Karl is a lying sack of.....

Ooohhh, Karl under oath....Karl must be sweating Big Time! I'm not sure he's actually acquainted with the concept of truth...He must be very nervous.

[robinlynne]

16. I dont think karl knows fear.

[aquart]

22. Then we must teach him.

God knows, we're familiar with it.

[Old and In the Way]

10. He's gone.....

can you say LIAR?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=489954&mesg_id=489954

[redacted]

13. Texas Legal Ethics Materials from Cornell Law School

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/texas.html

[MGKrebs]

17. "would allow some administration officials to testify... without sworn testimony"

Now why would we do that?
Do they still get to claim the 5th?
Can we prosecute them for what they say if they incriminate themselves?
Is it like immunity? Are we going to get another Oliver North?

Make them testify under oath! Give up something else if you must- TV perhaps- but we need the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

[kath]

30. yeah, WTF??? All the testimony needs to be under oath. Have a freakin' SPINE, Reid!

[CrazyOrangeCat]

20. kick

[guruoo]

21. "in private without sworn testimony", without Rove -so why bother...

at all? Am I missing something here?

[w4rma]

26. Reid is saying that Rove *must* be under oath. (nt)

[saltpoint]

23. Good for Harry. "One way or the other" to me means he either resigns

of his own volition or pressure is brought to bear to oust him. Reid knows his GOP counterpart, McConnell, doesn't have an argument in favor of retaining the Attorney General.

There's no Congressional voice speaking in Gonzales' behalf or in his defense. There's nobody denying his skullduggery.

And the public never liked him to begin with.

He's gone.

[SoCalDem]

28. Cheney's taking him hunting? n/t