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floda Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:46 AM
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U.S. presidential hopeful John McCain says he still would have toured Iraqi market without heavy sec
Source: IHT

PHOENIX: Republican presidential hopeful Sen. John McCain said he would have taken his tour of an Iraqi market last week even if he had not been accompanied by heavily armed U.S. soldiers.

McCain hopeful said he would have walked through a central Baghdad market without the military protection, but the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, had recommended the armed escort.

"I'm not notorious for being nervous about going anywhere," said McCain. "I'll gladly go almost anywhere in the world, under any circumstances, but I did respond and do what General Petraeus asked me to do."

McCain and other members of a congressional delegation toured the market last week, traveling in armored military vehicles and wearing body armor during their hourlong excursion.

Read more: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/10/america/NA-POL-US-McCain-Iraq.php



WTF?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:47 AM
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1. OK, I'm skeptical. Prove it, John.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:06 AM
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29. My first thought too.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 11:25 AM
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32. Sure..
whatever...but next time if you get shot at or blown up don't come bitching about it...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-25-07 10:52 AM
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70. Bring me back a rug, John.
Edited on Wed Apr-25-07 10:56 AM by Lasher
I hear they're real cheap.

Oh, I get it. It's General Petraeus' fault you made a fool of yourself. Guess he picked the location too, just across the street from the green zone boundary.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:21 AM
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63. Hey john! I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you!
He is either just as stupid as Bush or every bit the liar Bush is.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:48 AM
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2. I can hear Petraeus now
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 07:49 AM by formercia
Are you out of your fucking mind!!?
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:25 AM
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61. The last thing Petraus needs is to have a high profile US Senator get himself blown to smithereens.
Could it be that the general knows a bit more about what is happening on the ground than Senator McCain.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:49 AM
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3. What a lyin' POS. nt
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:51 AM
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4. So, uh, why doesn't he head back there now? Nice weekend coming up.
Go for it, McWhore!!

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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:56 AM
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5. Shit, John, just come to Birmingham and walk through Norwood
at one in the morning. What a fucking liar...
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:59 AM
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6. Petraeus recommended the armed escort,
because he has more sense than McCain.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:00 AM
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7. then go ahead and GO BACK without the protection McCain
You lying fatmouth jerk.

Walk through that SAME area with NO sharpshooters, body armour and 100 soldiers. Do a solo stroll.

We'll send a few cameras to set up on the rooftops. And then we'll do a live feed.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:33 PM
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34. He'd last less than 15 minutes
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:00 AM
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8. Coulda, woulda, shoulda, Johnnie Boy.
Too fuckin' late. But thanks for keeping this in the newspapers, moron.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:04 AM
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9. Memo to McCain: You're in a hole
Remember the first rule of holes: When you're in a hole, stop digging!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:09 AM
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10. Go now John
And while you are there bring a translator and stop @
the homes of the 21 merchants who were taken away
and shot because you made them targets .... or go to
the funerals for the children who were killed in the
bomb blast to honor your market visit.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:14 AM
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11. How big of him to blame it on the general.
:eyes:

If you're such a brave man, John, why don't you go back without the entourage?
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:16 AM
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12. John
You are so completely done. Over. Finished. Sad you don't see it.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:22 AM
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13. why
why would he?

what would that prove?

He is just trying to save face - his comment was so ridiculous.

He has sold out.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:24 AM
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14. Go ahead. Next time maybe you can get 10 rugs for $5.
Phony.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:25 AM
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15. sooooo....then why didn't he?
since that was the alleged point of him being there?
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:34 AM
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16. This proves one thing - he is far too crazy to hold any public office.
A threat to himself and society in general, institutionalize the old fart before he hurts himself or innocent bystanders.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:29 PM
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45. Agreed!
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:41 AM
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17. Hahahahahaha! "Yeah? Well I WOULD'VE!" Right, John. O-o-o-kay.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:46 AM
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18. that's why he should be president...?
Because he hasn't got the sense to come in out of the rain of bullets?
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:48 AM
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19. Please do, John. Although ...
maybe the sympathy factor for losing a "high-profile" Presidential hopeful might just give the Republicans the win in 2008 ... they desperately will need it.

Wanna take one for the team, John? Come on, be a good soldier ...
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:49 AM
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20. Okay there looney toons.
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 08:50 AM by antonialee839
I'm sure the remaining un-executed market vendors would really appreciate seeing you again.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:56 AM
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21. Armed escort????
And armed escort is 5 or 6 people with guns.

100+ service men 3 black hawk helicopters and 2 Apache helicopters is a small army.

okay mr tough talking out your ass mclame, I take you up on your severe case of false bravado. go take a stroll down that same street without all that protection.

That would be the quickest way to eliminate you from the presidential race.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:12 AM
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65. He's already eliminated himself.
McC simply keeps stating that *'s strategy for Iraq is the right one. Just keep on saying it - that way even a moran knows that having him in office simply guarantees another four years of the same war (at least until his keepers are ready to announce the next one).
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:56 AM
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22. Two words:
Bu bye.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:09 AM
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23. Good! Let him shut-up and go DO IT then!
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:19 AM
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24. That comment is gonna follow him around like bad smell on an old fish I think.
How fucking stupid does he think we are? His life expectancy in that Bagdhad market would be about ten minutes or less without an armed escort.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:20 AM
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25. BREAKING!!!: Sen. McCain travels back to Iraq with no troops, no armor, no protection


I just gotta...keep this...thing...in front...of me *whew*
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:21 AM
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26. Then he should go back and PROVE it.
:grr:
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:43 AM
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27. Oh, bullshit
Please give us more credit for intelligence than that, John.

But if you're really serious -- pay a return visit.

Just take ownership of your stupid comments and be done with it.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:05 AM
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28. It's a sad thing, watching a once-honorable man go insane.
There was a time, long since gone, when I would indeed have considered him a viable candidate.

Then he wigged out.

I wonder if even HE knows what happened to so completely change him.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:18 AM
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30. Would he have driven himself in from the airport, too?
…in an unarmored Toyota?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:32 AM
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31. He doesn't even have to pay for a plane ticket.
Transports going to Baghdad every day, Johnnie Boy.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:27 PM
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33. Then his poor judgment clearly shows that he is unfit to be president -- or even senator.
And had he survived, he might have had something to shoot off his mouth about -- but he did it with heavy security and deserves all the criticism he has taken for his stupid claims.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:40 PM
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35. More like US Presidential forgeddaboutit.
John,we hardly knew ye...thank Christ.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:40 PM
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36. oh, so he's blaming the military now?
geeze, why doesn't he just offer to demonstrate how large his genitalia is on live tv?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 12:46 PM
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37. Hm -
"I'm not notorious for being nervous about going anywhere," said McCain. "I'll gladly go almost anywhere in the world, under any circumstances, but I did respond and do what General Petraeus asked me to do."
= = = = = = = = =
OK, analyzing at his statement. When I first read it, I picked up on the peculiar wording. Notice, he starts out with a NEGATIVE, "I'm NOT notorious ...for being nervous".

Also, NOTORIOUS is such a weird word to be used when you're talking about being brave, tough guy, get out there, and so on. Notorious means you have a reputation, usually a bad one.

Verdict: these are Freudian slips. He's really saying 'no' about taking risks, and yes he's notorious, and he's definitely nervous about going anywhere in the world.




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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 01:00 PM
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38. Hey, rubes!
Got a great new line of bullshit that you're sure to love!
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 01:09 PM
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39. Well, he did promise to OFF himself if the Dems won last November....
:rofl:
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 01:21 PM
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40. then do it
and do it for several weeks in a row.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:17 PM
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41. Shut up and let it go already, John
You're only digging yourself into a deeper hole.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:25 PM
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42. So why didn't you, McCain? Then one less idiot rightwingnut
to stink up the world.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:27 PM
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43. Sometimes you just want to say . . . SHUT UP! nt
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Felix Mala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:28 PM
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44. Because he's C-r-A-Z-y John McCain!!! He'll do a-N-y-t-H-i-N-G to be president
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 03:31 PM by Feles Mala
... because he's C-R-a-z-Y!!!!

He'll dance on the wing of a fighter jet at 50,000 feet...

He'll swim across the Atlantic Ocean...

He'll dive into a volcano...

Anything to get your vote.

He's I-n-s-A-N-e!!!
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:37 PM
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46. Yeah, and I couldn't studied harder, got into Harvard Law, and been a chief justice too...
I just didn't.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:42 PM
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47. Well, then go ahead. Walk the walk -- literally -- if you feel that strongly about it.
But I fear the next thing we'll be reading about you, Mr. Senator, will be the schedule for viewing at the Rotunda. :(


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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 03:46 PM
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48. That goofy guy
more lies from a republican seeking the white house.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 04:11 PM
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49. It's not too late
Show us your stuff, McCain.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:40 PM
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50. Ahem... when you're in a hole, stop digging...
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 07:41 PM by Hand
...asshat. On second thought, keep digging! Dig more! Dig deeper! :evilgrin:

ON EDIT: With apologies to Gman, who beat me to it! :hi:
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:54 PM
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51. He can still do it! Take gw with ya.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:58 PM
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52. Today would have been a good day to go John.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:17 PM
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53. Testicular growth inversely proportional to the distance from the danger.
Amazing how that works.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:20 PM
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54. Senile Dementia is a terrible thing
Get this man some help.

Seriously.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:23 AM
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66. I agree - this is a sick man
I don't know if it's dementia or if he's just fucking nuts, but he's certainly not sane.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:31 PM
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55. Oh bullshit. n/t
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 10:02 PM
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56. "had recommended?"
Give me a break. Sounds like he had the opportunity to do it and didn't.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:34 AM
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57. It's time to get this * ass kisser a plane ticket.
.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 02:52 AM
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58. Just what America needs in a President.
Someone who can make the right decisions..... in hindsight. :sarcasm:


What a doofus, blaming it on Gen. Petraeus, the guy who ordered all those troops into harms way for your photo-op.

I'm in agreement with some of my fellow posters, just keep digging John.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:23 AM
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59. Put up or shut up. (nt)
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 05:22 AM
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60. No one's questioning your courage Senator--It's your judgment we have a problem with.
Senator, everybody agrees that you are a personally brave man--a guy who spent several years in the Hanoi Hilton as a guest of the Viet Cong has nothing to prove on that front.

It sounds to me now like you're now throwing General Petraeus under the bus for acting like a four star nervous nanny for making sure that your group had adequate protection.

Senator, is it possible that the general knows a little bit more about what the situation on the ground in Iraq is than you do?

What would the damage to the mission you so strongly support have been if you or one of your group had been killed while trying to cut a good deal on carpets?

It's your judgment Senator.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:18 AM
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62. Could someone just take his shovel away?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:31 AM
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64. Woulda coulda shoulda....
.. man what a pissant McCain has become.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:28 AM
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67. If you believe this, such a deal I have for you

For Sale



The Golden Gate Bridge

A great investment!

Each southbound car pays you $5.

Buy now and (to show you what a nice guy I am) I'll throw in

Beachfront Property by the Sea of Tranquility

Contact: John McCain
Washington, DC

Photo: Winter Insurance (Austria)

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 12:09 PM
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68. Nobody's stopping you, John n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 04:45 PM
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69. Kicked -
just for the snide remarks
Luv 'em :smoke:
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