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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:09 PM
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US Democrats accuse Bush of allowing terror threat
As Americans digest the news that Al Qaeda is almost certainly planning a major attack on the US during the holiday period, the Democrat Opposition has been quick to criticise President George W Bush for allowing the terrorist network to remain a threat.

The Bush administration has raised the national terror threat warning to its second highest level, saying it is receiving more intelligence of a possible attack now than at any time since September 11.

One of the front-running Democrat presidential hopefuls is former US Army General Wesley Clark.

General Clark says Mr Bush made the wrong move going after Saddam Hussein, instead of Al Qaeda's leader Osama bin Laden.

"He did a bait and switch on us and substituted Saddam Hussein and boom, $150 billion, 460 American lives and no telling how much more of our treasury before this is over, and Osama bin Laden is still out there, Al Qaeda is still out there," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1014638.htm

This is the right strategy, imo. The terror alert system now gauges Bush's failure in the "war on terra".
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:17 PM
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1. Republicans and Democrats are sick of this shite
Watching the ABC Evening News tonight, they featured no less than three speakers who compared the terror alerts with the Boy Who Cried Wolf. My wife and I were just discussing this same comparison.

The Bushies have completely run out of ideas. Saddam was not the ace in the hole they hoped. The only thing they have left is fear, and even that has run of steam.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:42 AM
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14. Actually Saddam WAS the Ace (of Spades) in the (spider) Hole.
sorry...couldn't pass that one up.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:21 PM
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2.  The terror alert system now gauges Bush's failure in the "war on terra"
junior was a failure from the minute he was born. His brothers are both losers. The only things that holds junior up is the cast up criminals from past administrations, and the power his daddy has.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:47 PM
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4. A Bush...
is a piece of vegetation that never rises to the level of tree.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:48 AM
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15. Ridge's statement
paraphrased)
"...we are in as much danger as we were on Septmber 10, 2001..."

doesn't this imply that the Iraq invasion and capture of Saddam didn't make us safer as Bush* stated a few days ago?

doesn't this imply that al-qaeda/bin-laden are very much a threat and that by invading Iraq - Bush* left a job half-done in Afghanistan

doesn't this imply that Bush* and his buddies failed?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:25 AM
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20. that is exactly what it implies radfringe....
It is quite obvious to me as well. Too bad most murkins can't see it...
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:26 AM
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22. Another Thing It Implies, Is. . .
. . .that we had intelligence chatter just before Sept. 11, 2001. Ridge said twice, more chatter than at any time since Sept. 11.

So, he's also slipping up by admitting that we knew something big was going down on Sept. 10, 2001 and screwed it up.

Incompetence, revealing itself!
The Professor
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:38 PM
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3. Clark sure can say it all in one concise comment .....
"He did a bait and switch on us and substituted Saddam Hussein and boom, $150 billion, 460 American lives and no telling how much more of our treasury before this is over, and Osama bin Laden is still out there, Al Qaeda is still out there," he said.

Can you imagine what he would do to w in the debates!
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TiredTexan Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:47 PM
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5. This is exactly the right strategy.
Although I was leaning towards Dean, Clark is gaining big points lately with zingers like this.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:56 PM
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6. Is the Clark/Dean thing off then?
Woulda made a pretty good duo
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 12:11 AM
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7. Kerry/Clark is the winning ticket ........nt
nt
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 12:15 AM
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8. The winning ticket is Clark/Bob Graham
Kerry blew it.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:03 AM
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18. Sounds good to me.
Kerry blew it in many ways and the least of it was saying he would bring James Baker on board his team. Oy.
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Nile Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 01:41 AM
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9. I do not see where Clark said how he himself would...
go about catching Osama. What are his plans? Would he invade Iran instead?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 06:17 AM
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19. Sometimes it's enough of a plan...
to just avoid doing stupid things. Like invading Iraq without wide international support. Or going on vacation for a whole friggin' month whilst 19 hijackers are running around your country. Or having private visits from a member of the Saudi Royal family.

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:05 AM
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10. Dean said capturing Saddam didn't make us any safer.
Why did other Democrats give him such shit for telling the obvious truth?
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Wink Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:04 AM
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12. Lieberman is an asshole
That's reason number one. That stupid fuck is dragging the party down with his ego.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:04 AM
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13. Because they're trying to claw him off his front-runner perch.
n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:20 AM
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11. almost certainly?? say what??
"....almost certainly planning a major attack..."

Did Ridge really say that??
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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 04:29 AM
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16. how do they get this information?
do the terrorists phone it in...sounds orwellian to me
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 04:37 AM
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17. they got the intell from the same places
that Bush said failed to warn us prior to 9-11

from the same sources that Bush said told him that WMD's existed in Iraq

with one lip Bush jumps on the intell and screams terra-terra-terra, with the other lip he criticizes intell sources when they tell him something he doesn't want to hear

he only received a 3-4 point bump in the polls after the turkey dinner and saddam's capture - doesn't seem to be high enough for him
so it's time to yell Terra-Terra-Terra again

check out the Terra-Poll
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:14 AM
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21. Local Airport has received no instructions from TSM
According to WVLT in Knoxville, at 6am, airport authorities had still not received any instructions from the Transportation Security Administration regarding actions to be taken in response to the elevated terror alert. Jees Bushies, if things are as bad as pre-9/11, don't you think it might be wise to have a plan. Of course the Bushies were clueless then and there's no reason to think they've learned a damn thing.
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