Biden predicts rivals will adopt his Iraq stance

[jmc247]

Source: USA Today

Delaware senator and presidential candidate Joe Biden predicted Saturday that within six months, every one of his Democratic rivals would adopt his position on the war in Iraq.

In front of more than 100 people, Biden spoke passionately about the need for a middle road between the plans proposed by his Republican and Democrat counterparts.

"It is the only rational way," said Biden, who proposes a federal system dividing Iraq up into separate states of Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds.

Biden said that his plan, coupled with his long record in the U.S. Senate make him the right candidate to step into the office and to immediately take control of the Iraq war.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-04-21-biden_N.htm?csp=34#Close

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Biden Iraq is already a strongly federal system with the Kurds and the Shia in the south basically with their own governments and the Anbar Salvation Council being the government in the Sunni West, if it gets anymore federal you basically have broken up the country. Biden how are you going to split up Baghdad that has Shia and Sunnis deeply enmeshed? Ethno-religious cleansing? How are you going to split up Mosul and Tal Afar that have the same problem?

How are you going to tell the Iraqi government and the Iraqi people, oh we are disbanding your government and splitting you up? What are you going to do with the Iraqi Army that is 10% Sunni 25% Kurd and 65% Shia, but is lead by in large by Sunni officers and NCOs of the old Iraqi Army? How are you going to stop Turkey from intervening in Northern Iraq? How are you going to stop Iran from taking over Southern Iraq and becoming the most oil rich country in the Middle East?

And, finally Biden how will spliting up Iraq make a damn bit of difference to the people coming into Iraq and blowing themselves up to kill thousands of Iraqis in order to try to cause a civil war?

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[aquart]

2. WTF is that supposed to mean?

The things that crawl out after midnight.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. Hey, you and me are the only posters on this thread after midnight. And I'm not

a thing.

Speak for yourself.:P

[still_one]

4. Biden is wrong, the Iraqii people will decide their destiny, not the U.S.

as you said in your comment to the Biden suggestion

[Rydz777]

5. Mindset

You are exactly right. We have this mindset that it is the right, even obligation, of the United States to decide what the region now known as Iraq should look like. The people who live there - Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds, and others - will ultimately make that decision. We are just creating one mess after another and should get out NOW.

[still_one]

7. I could not agree more /nt

[pinto]

6. The history of partition is a poor one - look at post WWII Germany,

India/Pakistan, Northern Ireland/Ireland, etc. But this may be the de facto net result of the deep divisions in Iraq...if that is to be the case, I would favor a regional, above board agreement, crafted by Iraq, their Arab neighbors, Iran and Turkey under UN mediation.

[lyonn]

8. Think of dividing Iraq up into 3 States

Each would have control over local government, security, schools. Dividing parts of Baghdad and other cities/towns could be a problem but nothing like what they have now. Kinda like the rift between repubs and dems, ha.

If only it could be that easy. For sure what they are doing now is destroying the entire country. And yes, this should be the Iraqis' decision but maybe us and other Arab countries could help them negotiate.