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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:14 AM
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UN satellites eye Israeli barrier
UN satellites eye Israeli barrier

The UN is keeping a close eye from space on the path of Israel's controversial West Bank barrier.

It is using satellites to take images of the 700km (435 miles) barrier which cuts across Palestinian territory.



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"It is evident by looking at this wall on the satellite imagery to see the damage done to Palestinian villages that are getting trapped," said Alain Retiere of the UN's satellite agency.

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The UN has also spoken out against the fence, describing it as illegal. In a report in September it said the wall was tantamount to "an unlawful act of annexation".


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But reality that has emerged from the data gathered by the UN agency may not please Israel.

"There is an increasing degree of consciousness that this wall is not just about security," said Mr Retiere. "When you see the maps, you see there that this is more than just about ensuring security."

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"The more people know about this, the more we will avoid the tricking of the information which has been an obstacle for conflict resolution for centuries."

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3334235.stm
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ParticipatoryDem Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:35 AM
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1. Too bad they can't use those eyes in the sky to track suicide bombers
Then there would be no need for the wall.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:40 AM
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2. Too busy tracking the bull-dozers. for a better end. n/t
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:30 PM
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4. Or snowmobiles in Yellowstone...
Or Hillary in New York. Right?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:31 PM
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5. Oh come on.
Occupation is Terrorism.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:43 PM
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6. How would tracking suicide bombers help Israel steal Palestinian land?
Oh, that's right: trying to make the theft risk free.

But suicide bombers and settlers have a lot in common: opposition to a peaceful solution that would thwart their plans.

Remember when the Iron Curtain came down? Well, now there's a new one.
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ParticipatoryDem Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:16 PM
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9. The Iron curtain was to keep people in
This wall is to keep suicide bombers and killers out.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:10 PM
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12. Good thing it allows students and ordinary working people
to pass right through, nicht?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:25 PM
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13. Can you PLEASE get your terminology right...
its HOMOCIDE bombers...remember? Or did you not get the memo?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:28 PM
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3. no longer disguising the intent of the land grab
an illegeal wall protecting illegal settlements on illegally occupied land.

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 05:53 PM
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7. So what is that called that is within the circle?
the Warsaw ghetto?
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:01 PM
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8. I thought the same thing years ago
When they partitioned enclaves for the Palistinians to live in. I found the irony disturbing.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:23 PM
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10. if I had a gazillion dollars, I'd give it to the UN for "spy" satellites..
while we worry about the growth of Big Brother, open and accessible info from the same technology can be a source for world wide assessment. I am hopelessly optimistic about global institutons...
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GRClarkesq Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 06:36 PM
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11. The UN has satellites?
What about black helicopters?
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:39 PM
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14. What part of this is the Palistine territory?
Is it the area within the circular wall?

It looks so strange. I expected a wall that would stretch across a region, not used as a fence to keep people inside. History continues to repeat itself
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 08:53 PM
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15. many call them ghettos........n/t
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 09:04 PM
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16. Here are some maps...
http://www.amin.org/eng/uncat/2003/dec/dec30.pdf (Good Updated Map)

http://www.reliefweb.int/hic-opt/wall.htm Includes large satellite photos of many areas.
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