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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:34 PM
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GALLUP: What Americans Would Like to Tell Bush About Iraq
Source: Editor & Publisher

A unique survey question posed by the Gallup organization reveals just how far the president and Congress -- and most newspaper editorial pages -- appear to stand from the wishes of the American public on getting out of Iraq.

Gallup, in a report today, said it posed the question: If you had 15 minutes with President Bush in the Oval Office what would you tell him to do about Iraq?

The majority (56%) said they would urgently urge him to focus on getting out of Iraq, with the highest number (nearly 4 in 10) agreeing with the wish to simply "pull the troops out/end it" and others backing other exit ideas.

Another 6% would tell him to admit his mistakes in Iraq and apologize. About 7% would advise the president to work with study groups or the United Nations to figure out a solution. Only one in four would tell the president to stay the course or be more aggressive in Iraq.


Read more: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003592160
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:50 PM
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1. How many suggested he seek counseling? n/t
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RaRa Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 08:00 PM
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2. We're to assume he gives a rat's ass what we all think?
That would be rather democratic of him.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 08:43 PM
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3. Exactly
Bush, Cheney, and the whole lot of them consider themselves something like kings, completely unanswerable to the people.
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:36 PM
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4. What would I say to king george?
Go fuck yourself george- and your stupid administration.

STOPPING FUCKING UP THIS COUNTRY!!

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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:30 AM
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18. The same thing we said in 1776
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776.
THE UNANIMOUS
DECLARATION
OF THE
THIRTEEN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes which impel them to the Separation.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.

HE has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good.

HE has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

HE has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodation of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyranny only.

HE has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.

HE has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.

HE has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining, in the mean Time, exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within.

HE has endeavoured to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

HE has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

HE has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.

HE has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.

HE has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the Consent of our Legislatures.

HE has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

HE has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

FOR quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us:

FOR protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

FOR cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World:

FOR imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

FOR depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury:

FOR transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences:

FOR abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies:

FOR taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

FOR suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever.

HE has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection, and waging War against us.

HE has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our Towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People.

HE is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with Circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized Nation.

HE has constrained our Fellow-Citizens, taken Captive on the high Seas, to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

HE has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes, and Conditions.

IN every Stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every Act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People.

NOR have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have warned them, from Time to Time, of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our Connexions and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the Rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

WE, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in GENERAL CONGRESS Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connexion between them and the State of Great-Britain, is, and ought to be, totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which INDEPENDENT STATES may of Right do. And for the Support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of DIVINE PROVIDENCE, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honour.

John Hancock.
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.
NORTH-CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.
SOUTH-CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr. Thomas Lynch, junr. Arthur Middleton.
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of Carrollton.
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja. Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr. Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.
NEW-YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.
NEW-JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John Hart, Abra. Clark.
NEW-HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.
MASSACHUSETTS-BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry.
RHODE-ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, &c. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver Wolcott.

IN CONGRESS, JANUARY 18, 1777.

ORDERED,
THAT an authenticated Copy of the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCY, with the Names of the MEMBERS of CONGRESS, subscribing the same, be sent to each of the UNITED STATES, and that they be desired to have the same put on RECORD.
By Order of CONGRESS,
JOHN HANCOCK, President.

BALTIMORE, in MARYLAND: Printed by MARY KATHARINE GODDARD.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:47 PM
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5. He only listens to this bunch:
"Only one in four would tell the president to stay the course or be more aggressive in Iraq."
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:02 PM
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6. Yes, because according to him...
... 25% is a mandate.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:23 PM
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10. That's his "political capital"
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:03 PM
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7. They're better off telling it to someone who'll listen. n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:07 PM
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8. "...admit his mistakes in Iraq and apologize?"
Unfuckingreal
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:15 PM
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9. That 6% is obviously not paying attention to spoiled brat.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 11:34 PM
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13. yeah, that one is pretty funny. admit mistakes? apologize? who do they
think they'd be talking to? (anyone but this fuckhead, that's for sure)
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:00 AM
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15. What you said. I agree.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:30 PM
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11. WharrBunch? If All You See Compromises AND Explanations As To An
explanation of WHY they voted that way. What most Americans don't realize is that it takes a very strong movement to sway their vote.. Sure some pay the courtesy of speaking directly to their constituents and actually agree (in their gut) that the unrest being fomented in this insanity is a phase that will pass. So they hang on for the numbers of monetary gain to always to be in their favor and will level out to "normality" as it has in the. Thus they vote "party line" and IMO says Gingrich began the incubus of super "divison" which has created a Nation without Unity. But what has changed is BAD leadership and how much we have lost the policies of 6 short years!

Of course, other Presidents have made some "bad" mistakes... it seems to me that it's never been as INSANE as now!

HOW DOES ANYONE suggest we go from here? Do "We The People Have What It Takes" to stand our ground and make some noise without all the Interest groups saying they speak for us? And they do because they organized and worked hard to built a movement. Trouble is, too many movements have certain agendas!

I must go now, I could go on and on and MOST won't even read what I said... but at least I wrote what I feel along with many other issues/
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:19 AM
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17. HOW DOES ANYONE suggest we go from here?
Did you mean "Why" rather than "How"??

I mean,I for one am feeling like why the F&*( should I even bother.

And if I SHOULD bother than HOW the hell do I do that in a meaningful way??

Hisband's book being published in germany - we keep thinking how weird it is that we might flee the fascism here by going to the home of the Third Reich...
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:38 PM
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12. Resign and turn yourself in at The Hague n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 11:37 PM
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14. the lyrics to the mash theme song spring to mind n/t
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leftist. Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:05 AM
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16. Oh no you don't, E&P! That's NOT what Hannity says.
Right wing entertainment radio keeps telling me every single day that people are "waking up" to what Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, and the "liberals" in congress are doing, and that that's why they stopped messing around with a timeline!!!

(okay this is SORT OF :sarcasm: because I still hate that the dems caved, but w/e)
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 06:19 AM
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19. Is that 15 minutes with the President in the Oval Office alone?
I wonder if they'd let me bring a snack, say a bag of pretzels, in with me...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 12:43 PM
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20. How many advised him what he should stick and up where he should stick it?
How many suggested a lobotomy?
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