Two Guantanamo captives face tribunals for second time

[struggle4progress]

Source: Reuters

03 Jun 2007 12:49:38 GMT
By Jane Sutton

MIAMI, June 3 (Reuters) - ~snip~
Both were arraigned in the original version of the tribunals, which were aborted by the court's ruling, and now they face additional charges. The potential penalty for the men is the same -- life imprisonment.

Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni national, is accused of driving bin Laden, delivering ammunition and acting as a bin Laden's bodyguard but has denied being a member of al Qaeda.

Canadian Omar Khadr, now 20, is accused of killing a U.S. soldier with a grenade and injuring another in a battle at a suspected al Qaeda compound in Afghanistan.

Both are charged with conspiracy and providing material support for terrorism. Khadr also is charged with murder, attempted murder and spying, for allegedly conducting surveillance of U.S. military convoys in Afghanistan. ~snip~



Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N61338811.htm

[libodem]

1. What have they released about 400 innocents without fanfare?

And now they have a chance to stick it to these two unfortunate captives. I think all the charges have been made up and that the whole CIA can't find any one to blame for the 19 SAUDI hijackers. I don't believe anything any more. They have cried wolf too, many times. They should let them go for their time, trouble, and torture. How long did they torture them to make them confess? Were they beaten? Were they starved? Were they humiliated. Were they urinated upon? Were they snapped at or bitten by dogs? Were they chained to the floor in a squatting position for a few days? Did they pull out any teeth? Did they break any bones? Did they never get to face a window to see any daylight? Were they left for months alone, bored, deprived of the least bit of news from home? Even though letters from home might have been in someones office. Did they finally break and sign a false confession? Were they even allowed to know what they were charged with? Or were the charges trumped up, not explained to them, and they just signed a guilty plea? Who wouldn't want our kind of Democracy exported to their country?

[plessy123]

14. Yea, and some of those have been killed on the battlefield fighting us AFTER release

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

15. Do you have a link for that?

[Heidi]

2. Kick.

:kick:

[CHIMO]

3. Khadr to appear for arraignment hearing in Cuba

Source: The Canadian Press

Khadr to appear for arraignment hearing in Cuba
Last Updated: Sunday, June 3, 2007 | 9:26 PM ET

A Canadian man accused of throwing a grenade that killed an elite U.S. soldier in Afghanistan in July 2002, is expected to appear before a military judge for an arraignment hearing in Cuba where he is being held at Guantanamo Bay.

But it wasn't clear who will represent Omar Khadr, 20, who fired his U.S. lawyers last week, saying he would only deal with his Canadian lawyers.

The makeup of his legal team is likely to be the first order of business in a case American authorities hope will restore faith in the justice system they've devised for what they've called the "worst of the worst" terrorists.

The military prison camp in southeast Cuba and the special tribunals created under U.S. President George W. Bush have been widely condemned by many countries, except Canada, as inhumane. Detainees languish in indefinite detention and could remain there even if they're acquitted at a trial.


Omar Khadr, shown here at 15, not long before he was captured by U.S. forces in July 2002.
(CP)

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/06/03/khadr-hearing.html

[provis99]

4. in Canada we call the Khadrs the "First Family of Terrorism":

his whole family is a bunch of murderous, lying, manipulative thugs. Good riddance if the US throws the book at him.

[IndianaGreen]

5. He was actually 14 years old at the time of the incident

but what can we expect from a country that executes children and mentally impaired?

Children soldiers are a major problem across the world.

[nick303]

7. Pretty sick

Sounds like an attempt to justify what happened

[IndianaGreen]

8. What's sick is how children are recruited as soldiers in the world's conflicts

Iraq and Afghanistan are not the only wars that are currently raging.

[provis99]

6. 15 not 14; his mother was disappointed he didn't become a suicide bomber

They moved from Canada to Afghanistan because Canada to them was the most evil country in the world (their words), because it tolerated homosexuals, set up fake charities in Canada to shuttle money to bin Laden, married prominent terrorists, assassinated Pakistani civilians and govenment officials, then came crying back to Canada claiming discrimination by foreign governments. No sympathies for any of them.

[IndianaGreen]

9. And what gives rise to such theology, which is no different from Xtian fundamentalism?

And what are we doing ourselves in supporting policies that create conditions for such theologies to flourish?

[Socal31]

10. Yes...

America is to blame for ALL the world's problems. (puke)

[IndianaGreen]

11. 9-11 didn't happen in a vacuum

Had 9-11 happened this year, after 6 years of war in Iraq, no one in the world would be surprised that it happened.

House of Bush and House of Saud.

[annabanana]

12. Had it happened this year,

there might actually have been some Iraqis involved.

[IndianaGreen]

13. Update: Judge dismisses charges against Khadr

and makes reference to child soldiers.

I am sure this story is posted in LBN, but here it is, just in case:

Charges dropped against Guantanamo detainee

Trial was to begin for Canadian, who was 15 when seized in Afghanistan

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - A military judge on Monday dismissed terrorism-related charges against a prisoner charged with killing an American soldier in Afghanistan, in a stunning reversal for the Bush administration’s attempts to try Guantanamo detainees in military court.

The chief of military defense attorneys at Guantanamo Bay, Marine Col. Dwight Sullivan, said the ruling in the case of Canadian detainee Omar Khadr could spell the end of the war-crimes trial system set up last year by Congress and President Bush after the Supreme Court threw out the previous system. The ruling immediately raised questions about whether the U.S. will have to further revise procedures for prosecuting prisoners, leading to major delays.

But Omar Khadr, who was 15 when he was captured after a deadly firefight in Afghanistan and who is now 20, will remain at the remote U.S. military base along with some 380 other men suspected of links to al-Qaida and the Taliban.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19028561/

On edit, sabra posted the updated story here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2869514&mesg_id=2869514