Cow Parts Used in Candles, Soaps Recalled

[Snazzy]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=530&e=2&u=/ap/20031227/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow_bones

(sorry, tiny url is crashed at the moment)

Cow Parts Used in Candles, Soaps Recalled
15 minutes ago

By RUKMINI CALLIMACHI, Associated Press Writer

PORTLAND, Ore. - Cow parts — including hooves, bones, fat and innards — are used in everything from hand cream and antifreeze, to poultry feed and gardening soils.

In the next tangled phase of the mad cow investigation, federal inspectors are concentrating on byproducts from the tainted Holstein, which might have gone to a half-dozen distributors in the Northwest, said Dalton Hobbs, spokesman for the Oregon Department of Agriculture.

Now, it's the secondary parts, the raw material for soil, soaps, candles, that are being recalled.

Los Angeles-based Baker Commodities, Inc., announced Friday it has voluntarily withheld 800 tons of cow byproduct processed in its Seattle and Tacoma, Wash., plants, said company spokesman Ray Kelly. The company, like other "renderers," takes what is left of the cow after it is slaughtered and boils it down into tallow, used for candles, lubricants and soaps, and bone meal used in fertilizer and animal feed.

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more about the (unexpected?) reach of this crisis.

[kalian]

1. I don't get this....

they're pulling products made from cow parts... So, this means that
these products POSE A THREAT to humans if they are consumed.
This is bullshit and I still don't understand what they're trying
to accomplish with these scare stories...

[mopinko]

2. bone meal especially

is dangerous. you can easily inhale it while spreading it. mad cow IS SCARY. it is not a disease caused by an organism like a virus or bacteria. it is caused by a mis-shapen protien that CANNOT be killed.

[Snazzy]

3. Yeah, heat doesn't kill it

The researcher who discovered all this (prions) said that you would need to soak your hamburger in something like drano to destroy it.

[bicentennial_baby]

6. Yep

No bone meal in my garden!

[kalian]

7. "Prions"....yes, I know what they are....

BUT, most scientists are still not sure whether they cause MCD.
Nor do they know how this disease gets started. "Scrapies" is the
exact same disease in sheep...yet it does not infect humans. What gets
weirder is that they believe that scrapies jumped species from
sheep parts being fed to cows... Umm...I think this is bullshit.

Do an extensive search on the web about "prions" and all that jazz
and you will realize that the scientific community DOES NOT KNOW
what the hell is going on. Seriously...they are at a complete loss
as to what causes prions, whether prions actually cause MCD and
whether or not there might be "something else" that is behind all
this.

[Snazzy]

12. I gave some points on the Nobel Prize

http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1997/

The prion guy. Also got the impression, although I'm no expert, that many of prion debunkers and a lot of the confusion comes from the beef/agra lobbies. If I saw a clear way that this wasn't going to be a total disaster for Bushco, I'd probably be on your bs/ "something else" page too. Don't see that. Looks like to me that they got blindsided by greed and this will get worse. Check out the USDA appointment of an anti-prion cattle guy (woman?). Reminds me of their fox guarding the hen house approach to the voodoo of deregulating everything (Enron)--let industry regulate itself, right?

In May, when Canada was having problems, Counterpunch had a well referenced article. This was the guy who the expert in whatever happened with Oprah vs. US Beef Industry.

http://www.counterpunch.org/greger05232003.html

Edit, add:

Check out (google) the bio of Dale Moore and Chuck Lambert, USDA chief of staff and USDA deputy undersec. Both formerly National Cattleman's Beef Association, the former being their lobbyist in Washington.

[chasqui]

13. Heat kills it.

About 600 degrees Fahrenheit or so.
You would basically be incinerating your meat at this temperature.

[whatelseisnew]

15. Link? I think it is a much higher temp

?

[mouse7]

4. Funny, I don't remember cows at Williamsburg candlemaker

I saw way too much of Colonial Williamsburg on school field trips as a child. So much so that when the thought of Christmas pops in my head, I'm immediately assaulted by the memories of the reek of cloves in almost everything, thick, like a Djaram CS gas. Cloves in oranges, cloves in ham, cloves in cloves...

Anyway, what I remember of candles was... bees. Wax from bees. No hooves. Not once.

[cowpie]

5. I thought you

actually had to ingest the stuff to be infected. hmmm

[Devlzown]

8. I think I'd be more concerned about gelatin

and sugar (they use bone meal to whiten refined sugar). You know, things that people actually EAT.

[truthisfreedom]

10. no kidding.

[mouse7]

11. I've never eaten Jello.

The minute I found out what that stuff was I was so repulsed I could never look at the stuff again. The whole lime flavored horse hooves thing is just not my idea of a tasty dessert treat.

[Piperay]

27. I won't eat it either but

unfortunately I take supplements that are in gelatin capusules. :scared: :puke: :argh:

[aquart]

21. SUGAR????????????

Ye gods.

[Devlzown]

24. My post about sugar wasn't entirely accurate.

They don't use bone meal, they use charcoal made of bone to filter the sugar. This only applies to cane sugar, however, because beet sugar doesn't have to be filtered like cane sugar does. However, brown cane sugar goes through the same filtration process as the white. Kosher law forbids the use of animal products in the making of sugar, so there are even a few brands of cane sugar out there that don't use the bone charcoal filtration. Sorry about the goof! Here's a link that explains it better than I can...... http://vegsource.com/joanne/qa/qasugar.htm

[mumon]

23. MARSHMALLOW!

that's some pretty scary shit.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

29. what's in marshmallow?

sorry to sound ignorant but what's in it?

[papau]

9. loopholes - feed cow to pig then pig to cows means mad cow is in the feed

plus our refusal to take "downers" (can not walk) out of the food chain - like they are removed in every other country - means our testing 20,000 out of 41 million is a laugh (The EU tests 25% of kill, and removes downers for automatic testing).

And on our media not one word about how the Dems tried to tighten meat inspections for 2 years in a row - and how the GOP shot it down.

OUR NUMBER ONE MEDIA RULE - DO NOT MAKE GOP LOOK BAD - AND IF TRUTH MAKES THEM LOOK BAD - SAY NOTHING OR LIE.

[Unforgiven]

14. Correct!!

No matter what the cost(s)! (In human lives or suffering), We just don't realize, how expendable we are to the rich elite.

[freethought23]

16. No more antifreeze margaritas for me!

I'm going on the wagon. :)

[undergroundrailroad]

17. This scares me.

U.S. inspectors have tested fewer than 30,000 of the about 300 million animals slaughtered in the past nine years, and get results days or weeks later.

But the U.S. system was never intended to keep sick animals from reaching the public's refrigerators, said Dr. Ron DeHaven, the agriculture department's chief veterinarian.

It is "a surveillance system, not a food-safety test," he said in an interview Wednesday.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/154118_screening26.html

[flamingyouth]

26. My dad was lecturing us on this very article during Christmas dinner

Let's just say I lost my appetite :puke:

Dad also was talking about hearing a retired slaughterhouse worker on the radio here in Seattle the other day. This man mentioned that dairy cattle get so sick and worn down that eventually they just pump them full of antibiotics, then when they can't even function anymore, they are sent to the slaughterhouse.

We always have the nicest dinner conversations in our family...

[guajira]

18. Too Much Knowledge - Jello? Soap? Candles?

I've been eating Boca & Garden burgers and other products for several years. To me, the hotdogs with sauerkraut, relish, ketchup, and mustard taste just like the ones made from real meat.

Now I wonder how many other things I can do to stop needless slaughter of animals.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

28. me too-haven't eaten meat since 1984

And don't intend to start now.
Boca, Gardenburger, Morningstar.
All great substitutes...aside from their using eggs in alot of it

A message to all worried:
It's easy to quit meat if you just use the great tasting substitutes available in almost every Grocery Store!
Try it and you will not be disapointed!


note: even better ones like tofurkey, etc., in Heathfood Stores



.

[regnaD kciN]

31. Before you get too happy with Boca Burgers...

...you should know that they're made from genetically-modified grain.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

32. not rellevant because

Genetically modified Grain Trumps Geneticlally Modified Cows
lfe beats death

[Voltaire99]

19. Thanks, beef industry!

Thanks for your hostility to regulation that would have kept us safe. Thanks also to your pocketed pols who put us at risk for your profits. You m-f'ers are just tops!

[Cocoa]

20. Bush has not stopped burning candles

or using soap.

MSNBC just announced. :-)

[arikara]

22. They're leaving out the important parts though...

The chimp will be burning beeswax candles, using vegetable oil based soap and eating organically grown animals.

[Mercurius]

25. What a mess.

There's no way they'll be able to catch everything.

[T Bone]

30. ummmh hamburger

The book Fast Food Nation was way ahead of the curve on this.