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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 09:37 AM
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Nicaragua leader in Iran,calls for new world order
Source: Reuters

TEHRAN, June 10 (Reuters) - Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega, who wants more aid from the United States, called on Sunday for a new world order to replace "capitalism and imperialism", at the start of a trip to arch U.S. foe Iran.

His comments echoed some remarks by his Iranian counterpart who often attacks "imperialist" and "arrogant powers", although Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a more vehement critic of Washington.

Ortega has raised eyebrows in Washington, which broke diplomatic relations with Iran in 1980, for forging ties with the Islamic Republic. But the Nicaraguan president said he did not need permission about who to befriend.

"We have chosen our friends by our own will and we haven't got permission from anyone," Ortega said shortly after arriving in Tehran, the official IRNA news agency reported.

"In negotiation with America we have explained our personal and political positions towards imperialism ... Imperialism and capitalism should be removed and we should create a peaceful and friendly world," Ortega added.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/BLA047826.htm
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:36 AM
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1. Did he not learn his lesson the last time he was President?
Imperialism and capitalism will be imposed at gunpoint if necessary.

- Make7
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:56 AM
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2. "we should create a peaceful and friendly world"
Oh no, not that. We need to invade them now!
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 11:07 AM
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3. "Ortega who wants more aid from the United States
called on Sunday for a new world order to replace "capitalism."


So,


before he wants US capitalism done away with...he wants aid first...from the capitalist system that created the pool of aid to begin with ?


-just sayin
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:06 PM
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4. Well, US should pay reparations to Nicaragua.
They deserve it. From the invasion which killed Sandino in the early 20th century, to the criminal proxy war during the 80's, that country has sufferred terribly from US imperialism, so, yes, the US should give more aid.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:11 PM
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6. Not to mention, herding the Miskitu people into camps in Guatemala
and conscripting their young men at gunpoint to fight with the Contra mercs -- using their families as hostages to coerce their service.

I don't think we have enough money to pay for that.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:08 PM
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7. Aaah, but at whose expense did the US amass its wealth? Could it have
included the countries of South America?

-just sayin
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:07 PM
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5. That's the Ortega I like.
Not the "born-again" and "moderate" one. It's this Ortega the Nicaraguan people will support.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:56 PM
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8. I wonder if his cave-in to the Catholic Church on the abortion bill
was a temporary tactical retreat. In any case, Ortega needs to restore abortion rights.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:01 PM
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9. We never cease to be amazed anew whenever Latin American countries are mentioned.
Someone shows up on cue to start excoriating their leaders, if those leaders are not pro-US right-wing. Happens EVERY TIME.
The United States, said Ronald Reagan, "is engaged in a war on terrorism, a war for freedom"
How familiar it all sounds.
Merely replace Soviet Union and communism with al-Qaeda, and you are up to date.
And it was all a fantasy.
The Soviet Union had no bases in or designs on Central America; on the contrary, the Soviets were adamant in turning down appeals for their aid.
The comic strips of "missile storage depots" that American officials presented to the United Nations were precursors to the lies told by Colin Powell in his infamous promotion of Iraq’s non-existent weapons of mass destruction at the Security Council in 2003.
Whereas Powell’s lies paved the way for the invasion of Iraq and the violent death of at least 100,000 people, Reagan’s lies disguised his onslaught on Nicaragua, El Salvador and Guatemala.
By the end of his two terms, 300,000 people were dead.
In Guatemala, his proxies – armed and tutored in torture by the CIA – were described by the UN as perpetrators of genocide.
(snip)

ALLAN NAIRN:
Well, Negroponte was one of the people who ran the Contra operation, the central — the invasion against Nicaragua, which the world court later ruled to be an act of aggression by the Contras, which were created and funded by the U.S. government.
He also oversaw the back — the military backing for Battalion 316, which was a Honduran military death squad that specialized in torture and assassination.
(snip)

In Washington, the forces carrying out the violence were called "freedom fighters."
This is how Ronald Reagan described the Contras in Nicaragua: "They are our brothers, these freedom fighters and we owe them our help.
They are the moral equal of our founding fathers."
(snip)

The United States was brought to the world court by Nicaragua and received the condemnation that the United States failed to heed the sentence.

...At the time when we left government that the damages caused by that Reagan war was over $17 billion.
http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/americas/us/ronald_reagan.html
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