Casualty rate for U.S. forces in Iraq jumps

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Casualty rate for U.S. forces in Iraq jumps

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/7584686.htm

Sun, Dec. 28, 2003

By Vernon Loeb
WASHINGTON POST

WASHINGTON - The number of U.S. service members killed and wounded in Iraq has more than doubled in the past four months compared with the four months preceding them, according to Pentagon statistics.

From Sept. 1 through Friday, 145 service members were killed in action in Iraq, compared with 65 from May 1 to Aug. 30.

The two four-month intervals cover counterinsurgency operations, far costlier than major combat operations, which President Bush declared over on May 1.

Increases in those wounded in action have been equally dramatic this fall. Since Sept. 1, 1,209 soldiers have received battlefield wounds, more than twice the 574 wounded in action from May 1 through Aug. 30.

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[greatauntoftriplets]

1. You may want to edit this to just 4 paragraphs from the article.

Otherwise it violates copyright laws. Thanks for understanding.

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2. I didn't know

Thanks for the heads up!

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4. You're welcome.

There's an edit button towards the bottom of your post. Click on that and cut.

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5. Is that the same..

...for NG posting, or any posting, also?
In other words is it legal to post just a part of an article and submit the link with it? Does that satisfy copyright law?

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6. Yes, it is legal to post 4 paragraphs and the link.

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7. Thanks

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[DemExpat]

11. Within one hour after posting you can edit......

:hi:

DemEx

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13. Oh

That's good to know. I just tried to edit but was too late.

Thanks for the tip!

[chasqui]

15. Who has stipulated that?

I thought it was fair use if you were not making money off of it. And, furthermore, the post is well linked, and also no one is taking personal credit for it.

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18. The owners of DU stipulated the four paragraph rule.

It is in the DU rules. The link on this particular issue is below.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html#copyright

[Skittles]

3. there it is again, the reference to 9/11

IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EVENTs of 9/11.

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8. That Lt. Col....

..sounds like a typical gung-ho sheep. I'd expect him to make reference to 9-11.

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[FloridaPat]

9. New York Times said 11,000 soldiers have been wounded.

The DOD is going with the lower number. They are denying Purple Hearts to keep the number of troops wounded a secret.

[louis-t]

10. holy crap!

disgusting, evil people. Number of casualties is actually going up. War is escalating. It's not getting better, it's getting worse. The worse it gets the more the bushies will try to hide the facts. There is a law of diminishing returns for them, however. Soon, Americans will ALL see throught this idiot and his henchmen.

[Barrett808]

12. That figure includes soldiers withdrawn due to illnesses and "non-combat"

injuries. It's still a staggering number -- a whole division.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. That's what we're being told, anyway...

...but, we're being told quite a few things that just aren't true. Why should this be any different?

Don't forget that casualty figures from Afghanistan are all but forgotten these days. There are at least 2000-2500 casualties from that ongoing phantom conflict, including the dead, wounded and missing.

Keep in mind that the Iraq casualty figures include only those soldiers with MAJOR trauma that have been RELEASED from the hospital in Germany to hospitals in the States, and DO NOT include those soldiers still being treated in Germany.

Additionally, minor flesh wounds are being treated in hospitals in Iraq, with the soldiers being returned to frontline duty as quickly as possible. That probably adds another 3000 casualties to the totals.

And what of the severely wounded that die from their wounds? Nothing is being reported on that particular subject, but common sense indicates that not all of the critically injured survive their wounds after being transported to Germany.

My educated guesses on this subject tell me that there are now well over 600-700 dead from the total conflict in Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm also guessing that the total number of wounded (not sick or metally incapacitated) is between a factor of ten to fifteen times the number of killed...which would fall in the range of 6000 to 10,500.

[nohopewithnodope]

14. This is ALL the fault of bush

This war can be hanged on his neck and it's time to start using it against him. It's not too late to pin it all on him and we need to raise the noise until it hurts.

[goforit]

17. Such a sad travesty!!!.................all for oil!!!

Thank you Cheney!!!(not)

[tabasco]

19. Those 25 guys we're fighting sure are DAMN TOUGH!

A Brigadier General said the other day all the attacks were by 20-25 malcontents, and that the rest of the Iraqis love us. I see they've purged all the honest officers.

[TheLastMohican]

20. You should add all non-citizens of US to the list

who fought and died wearing US Army uniform. I bet DoD is not including them in the casualties because there will be no outcries if they gone missing since technically speaking they are just a bunch of mercenaries hired by US government. There are some 40,000 non-citizen US troops fighting in Iraq and many of them have already died.
The thing is Dod has been reporting only all-american casualties but keep silence on the number of troops actually slaughtered. Remember a correspondent from Lebanon killed for uncovering a mass grave of US troops? There goes the deal, I bet those troops were all non-citizens.

[laruemtt]

21. i can find a little bit of

comfort in knowing * et al at some point - now or later - will have to experience themselves all the pain they are causing.