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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:56 PM
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Vick Tests Positive for Marijuana
Source: Yahoo News

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A federal judge placed tighter restrictions on Michael Vick on Wednesday after the Atlanta Falcons quarterback tested positive for marijuana.

Because of the result, U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson placed special conditions on Vick's release, including restricting him to his home between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m. with electronic monitoring and ordering him to submit to random drug testing......

Vick has admitted helping kill six to eight dogs, among other things. His three co-defendants also have pleaded guilty. One of them, Quanis Phillips, failed a drug test and was ordered jailed after his plea.

Read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vick-marijuana&prov=ap&type=lgns



He and Tyson should just team up and get it overwith...
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democratsin08 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:00 PM
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1. hopefully he will reform
and be a spca volunteer.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:02 PM
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2. One could only hope
There is something seriously wrong with folks who torture and kill animals....totally off the beam for me to comprehend
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:26 AM
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58. Maybe he should run for President
His qualifications are stellar..Maybe even as good as Bush* the Great "Decider" :shrug:
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mreed Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:08 PM
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6. How?
How do you "reform" from years of enjoying torturing and killing animals?
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:17 PM
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12. I can't answer that
Probably because you really can't. Anyone capable of doing that is beyond sick....and the pot? Marijuana is mellowing to most...I don't get it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:03 PM
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3. Did they test him for Alcohol too?
I thought not.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:19 PM
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13. Is alcohol illegal?
:shrug:
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allisonthegreat Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. no but it is a drug.
:toast: Vick is inhumane.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:00 PM
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49. Apperently using legal drugs is not illegal
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #49
69. actually, it might be when under conditions of release pending
sentencing. Usually alcohol and illegal drugs are prohibited.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:02 PM
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37. No, but pot shouldn't be either
Marijuana certainly shouldn't be considered a facet in this case.

If he was drunk while killing the dogs, that certainly matters because alcohol tends to bring out violent tendencies.

Pot brings out laughter and Cheetos.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:03 PM
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50. Until the law is changed judges have to enforce what the law is, not what it should be
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:11 PM
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65. No, they have the ability to render the punishment nil, as it should be.
NT!

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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #3
62. You betcha, right after testing for caffeine
:silly:
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Klaxon Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:04 PM
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4. ...
Well at least there is one thing to respect him on.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:07 PM
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5. Talk about the Jenna 6...any black quarterback is subject to horrible
consequences...rush-McNabb...if you aint an angel as a black quarterback bet you get caught doing something. I hate that Vick did the dog fights..,but I think it is all over the top...HELL OUR SPCA PROBABLY KILLS MORE DOGS IN AN HOUR THAN VICK DID IN A YEAR!!!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:11 PM
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8. Jaw on floor.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:11 PM
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9. ditto....n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. I hope you're kidding.
Holy shit.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:24 PM
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16. No, I am not kidding...I loved my dog as much as I loved anyperson
but Vick has been raked over the coals on this. I understand the 'gambling' so he can not be in football again..I understand that dog fighting is illegal..and I am glad..BUT FUCK ONE TRIAL AND ONE SENTENCE IS ENOUGH...FOR GOD'S SAKE IF HE KILLED HIS WIFE HE WOULD NOT GET AS MUCH TIME
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Years and years of criminal conspiracy is where the multiple charges come from.
Years and years of deliberate torture of animals should result in serious charges.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #17
18. Like I said, If he killed his wife he would serve less time..what does that
say to the value we give women in America vs dogs???
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. He's almost certainly not going to wind up serving a lot of time.
Anyhow, he killed a lot more than one dog, so it's a stupid comparison.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:48 PM
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21. So how many dogs is a woman equal to, according to your assertion? n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #21
22.  Oh please.
Get a life. Animal abuse is serious. Abuse of a hypothetical spouse is serious. The severity of one does not in any way diminish the severity of the other.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:01 PM
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36. Geez - I can't believe you have to spell this one out!!
It's abuse and you're point is very very valid. Sorry that the person you are making that point for doesn't have a clue.

I'm still irk the poster claimed it was similiar to the racist remark that Limbaugh made against Donovan McNabb.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #21
54. Oh, and btw, they're investigating a possible murder connection with his kennel
He should be in jail for life.
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
51. This is Virginia. If he'd killed his wife, he'd be executed swiftly.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:35 PM
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63. One is not predicated on the other...
One crime (animal abuse) is in no way predicated on another crime (homicide).

Having said that, how do we know that he would serve less time if he killed his wife? Wouldn't that be up to the jury and the judge, as are each and every crime committed and brought to trial?

You seem to be making some rather imaginative assumptions.
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Guitarman Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:05 AM
Response to Reply #16
59. Probably Right
OJ killed his wife and is out playing golf somewhere.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:21 PM
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15. But at least the SPCA kills them humanely, not by electrocuting
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 02:21 PM by RebelOne
or drowning or hanging or slamming their bodies to the ground repeatedly.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #5
23. Please don't equate Vick with the Jena 6....
or any other pro quarterback for that matter.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:56 PM
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32. or to what Rush Limbaugh did to Donovan McNabb
Rush was the asshole in that situation and pretty much the whole country protested against what Rush said (who lost his job at ESPN because of the comment)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
26. Last time I checked the SPCA tried to do this as humanely as possible
whereas from what I read Vick was the exact opposite. Plus the SCPA was not engaged in a dog-fighting ring with the dogs in their care.

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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:54 PM
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28. I am not saying SPCA does not 'humanly' murder animals..I said they did more
than Vick could ever do.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. again - the difference here is humanely
and also the fact that this is a known feature of the ASPCA vs a hidden dog-fighting ring which included abuses to animals.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:54 PM
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27. Secondly - don't even think that McNabb/Rush have anything closely remote to the Vick story
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 02:58 PM by LynneSin
McNabb was wrongly judged by an asshole Rush Limbaugh who ultimately lost his job as an ESPN commentator after pretty much the WHOLE COUNTRY slammed Rush for his racist comment. A few weeks later it turned out that Rush had a major jones for Oxycontin.

McNabb was a victim. In the Michael Vicks situation it was the DOGS that were the victims.

Two very VERY different scenarios
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #27
34. ummmmm
you mean victims? (sp)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #34
35. Damnit - spell check. And I even criticized on the Jena spelling
:grr:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:54 PM
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29. And third it's JENA not Jenna
:grr:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #5
38. "OUR SPCA" doesn't electrocute animals, nor hang them, nor torture them.
Pick another message board for this nonsense.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:53 PM
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42. Wow
I seriously hope you didn't just compare this rich, pampered asshole with those kids down in LA. Or Donovan McNabb for that matter, whose only crime was being a black quarterback in the NFL.

Michael Vick is a typical entitlement whore pro athlete who thought he could do whatever the hell he wanted because he played football. I have to question the severity of the reaction toward it and the racial aspect of it (at the end of the day, as terrible as what he did was, there are far worse animal abuse cases that never make the news). But don't sit there and pretend that Michael Vick is some poor, put-upon brother who doesn't deserve every bit of scorn he's getting.

Planet angstlessk must be really fucked up.
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:29 PM
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45. wow. you are truly ignorant.
are you seriously calling this a racially motivated conviction? i think you need to go back and check the facts. this isn't just about vick killing animals (which in and of itself is disgusting). he was convicted for gambling and several other counts as well.

what he did is reprehensible. he repeatedly lied about his involvement and then when the truth came out, he pleaded ignorance of the fact that killing dogs was bad.

and, as for the assertion that he would have been convicted to less time for killing his wife, that's insane. the guy is going to federal prison for a year. A YEAR! you think that's unfair? if anything, it's too light a sentence. if it were you or me, we'd be going away for a long time. his celebrity saved him from being treated like the criminal he is.

cry me a river.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:18 PM
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47. I am new to this forum, but at the risk of being flamed I cannot
BELIEVE you are trying to make a racial issue out of Vick!!! Any "black quarterback?" Give me a break.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:40 PM
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48. Euthanasia = torture for fun?
Uh-uh. Try again.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
53. Hopefully, you forgot the sarcasm tag
Sadly, I think you didn't.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #5
55. So to follow your logic,
Michael Vick, or the "Jena 6", or any minority shouldn't be prosecuted for crimes, because of social injustice? *cough* crazy *cough*
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #5
60. True
But the SPCA doesnt beat them to death, or hang them, or drownd them.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #5
61. Vick was the QB on your fantasy football team?
I can only imagine you're upset because he was the QB on your fantasy football team-- otherwise, you really should have a large glass of PERSPECTIVE-- it's not just for breakfast, anymore...
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:09 PM
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7. So the fuck what?
He's a football player.

Has anyone given a breathalyser to the guy with his finger on the button?

Our priorities are whacked.

.
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Klaxon Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:12 PM
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10. yup
My feelings exactly...

Besides... we Need some mass pot smoking going on right now...

Has anyone checked the Doomsday clock?
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:17 PM
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11. They should lock him UNDER the jail!
:eyes: - puhleeze. So the fuck what?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:50 PM
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24. What a moron...n/t
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:51 PM
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25. look, I can't stand Vick or what he did . . . but busting him for pot . . .
is just as bullshit as busting anyone else for pot . . . it's a law that's kept on the books so they'll have an excuse to bust people when they really don't have anything else . . .

in this case, of course, they have plenty else -- but pot should not be illegal, for Michael Vick or anyone else . . .
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #25
31. I agree it should be legal
However, showing up at Miami International with a "bong" after being in trouble like he is proves he's about as smart as a box of rocks....talk about bad Karma...whew
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BadgerLaw2010 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #25
52. This was his pre-sentencing supervision. Vick apparently can't follow directions.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:57 PM
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33. WAIT - I thought Vicks found Jesus
Perhaps he was sharing a bong hit with the guy

:hide:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:29 PM
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39. I was going to ask if Gee-zus brought him some weed.
This is so over-the-top. Totally unnecessary. So he smokes pot. Big freaking deal.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:39 PM
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40. Personally I don't care about the pot stuff but....
...I do like to point out the hypocrisy of a man who claims he "Found Jesus"
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:05 AM
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56. If Jesus brought me weed I'd be a Christian
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:41 PM
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41. Maybe I'm just not with the times, but...
what the hell is the point in smoking pot if you're not going to be nice to people?
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #41
44. I second that.
But I think we are not with the times. Peace Love and all that.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #41
66. Totally agreed!
It's against the very idea of the plant!

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:10 PM
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43. If I was in THAT much trouble, I'd want to get stoned, too.
They should prescribe medical marijuana for people under house arrest pending trial.

For one thing, it will help keep them at home.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:12 PM
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46. Wow "Ookie" smokes weed?
Now THAT'S shocking

:sarcasm:
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:21 AM
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57. "He might be the dumbest person ever to play quarterback in the National Football League."
This is a clown caught in the glare and scrutiny of a pre-sentencing investigation and he blows weed. Dumb as a doorknob is an understatement.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20999985/
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #57
64. You, Sir, have not met Bob Avellini
Pretty stupid guy.



(I agree with you, but needed to point out that Bob Avellini, in addition to sucking, was pretty damn stupid.)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #57
67. Just to clarify: the pot isn't what made him stupid.
NT!

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riverdale Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:00 PM
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68. Common knowledge he was a pot smoker before all this.
Yes it certainly is shocking that Vick got busted for marijuana, less than one year after airport security found a fake Aquafina bottle on him with marijuana hidden in a secret compartment. Wow, who could have known. NOT
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