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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:31 PM
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S. African bishop: Condoms tainted with AIDS
Source: MSNBC

MAPUTO, Mozambique - The head of the Catholic church in Mozambique said on Wednesday he believed some European-made condoms were deliberately tainted with the HIV/AIDS virus to kill African people.

“I know of two countries in Europe who are making condoms with (the) virus on purpose, they want to finish with African people as part of their program to colonize the continent,” Archbishop Francisco Chimoio told Reuters.

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“I also know some companies who are manufacturing anti-retroviral drugs already infected with the virus, also in order to finish quickly the African people,” Chimoio said.

The Catholic Church, followed by 17 percent of Mozambique’s population, opposes the use of condoms. He declined to name the European countries in question or the source of his allegations.


Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20999747/
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:32 PM
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1. Good grief! Time for a nice quiet retirement for this nut. nt
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:33 PM
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2. The Catholic Bishop of Mozambique is sean hannity?
Fine Bishop ban all condoms, then all aids will disappear. Go ahead, prove it to the universe.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:33 PM
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3. one has to believe that he, AFA, and Dobson are on the same page
as well as many people in the Bush admin.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:38 PM
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4. Pretty much
They all seem to be getting their ideas from the same manual. "Sex-ed for morons".
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:55 PM
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5. Why?
Do you allow someone who doesn't "play the game to set the rules"? Theses AH's would say anything to get you to play by their rules. The Catholic Church has lost its creditability when it comes to sex.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:59 PM
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6. The headline is incorrect. He's not South African.
MSNBC needs to be more careful.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:05 PM
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7. I'm so glad I freed myself from the...........
"religions represent God" mode of thinking.

It's a wonder that some of the things religious people say don't make other people's heads explode!
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:09 PM
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8. His whole premise is wrong
He's suggesting Europe actually cares enough about Africa to be involved in some way. The real truth is that the outside world doesn't care anything about Africa, and totally ignores it; not that there's some vast conspiracy out there. Conspiracy nuts always miss this point. A conspiracy like this would imply that non-Africans actually pay any attention or care about what's happening in Africa (albeit in a malevolent way).
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:13 PM
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9. That's a pretty good trick
AIDS is an STI because it doesn't survive long outside that body.

Apparently, these condoms are swimming in some kind of plasma-like fluid, kept at body temperature from production through shipping, shelf-time, after-sale storage ... right up till they're used!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:31 PM
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10. Gee, not made in China? Oh, and BTW, the disease does not live long outside a human body
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 07:32 PM by HypnoToad
The twit claiming the condoms were tainted should really find a rock and go hide under it. His claim doesn't hold any water, any weight, he said it from a vacuum. The one between his ears.

LINK

Now they claim some strains can survive for a while (in hours), but if the fluid becomes dry, the risks are dropped 90~99%. How long does it take for a box of condoms to get shipped from Europe to their intended users anyway? We haven't developed teleportation yet, so I'm thinking days, weeks, if not a fair month. Not one span of time would allow the virus to survive.

Indeed, it's known the virus cannot easily reproduce outside the human body. Unlike humans.

Here's a clue on how to really prevent the transmission of this disease: Use fresh condoms each time.

Here's another clue: Don't do unto other humans the way bunnies do unto other bunnies. Have some respect for your body and for others'.

And a third: Don't share needles, if you're into that sort of thing.

A fourth: Be careful where you get you transfusion blood from. Those who do the transfusions should have regulations to ensure this risk is minimized.

And a fifth: Don't poke holes with a pin into the condom.



Now maybe that LINK is meant to obfuscate and deceive people just for the sake of propagating the paranoia... but I doubt it.



(On edit: Clarified subject line)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:43 PM
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11. Condom Manufacturers: Catholic Holy Water Tainted With Salmonella.
I'm just saying...

If they're not gonna fight fair, then fuck 'em.

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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:59 PM
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12. What do you expect?
He's Catholic. . . . Need I say more?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:03 PM
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13. WTF is it with Africa and crazy conspiracy theories featuring AIDS?
:banghead:
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tchunter Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:23 PM
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14. my guess would be lack of education on the subject...
n/t
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:52 PM
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15. We've heard some dumb statements about AIDS before...
but this likely takes the cake...

WTF?!
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:55 PM
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16. I guess that whole "thou shalt not lie" thing was just a suggestion
And not, I don't know, some kind of commandment??
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:57 PM
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17. The African Catholic Church should just seperate from the Vatican
They're 100% nutty and don't even listen to the rest of the Church.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:31 AM
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18. I wonder how he feels about circumcision?
:hide:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:22 AM
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19. What? And this is supposed to be a Christian holy man?
Quick, somebody tell him about the 10 commandments. He must have slept through that part in bonehead bible study 010.

Not only are those shameful lies, they're not even good lies. The Pope has zero credibility with me if he fails to react to this outrage.
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parkia00 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:51 AM
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20. I think he's actually not a donehead.
I think he actually knows exactly what he is doing. We all know that the African Catholic Church is vehemently opposed to the use of condoms. What better way to achieve that than to spread fear about their use. Happened many time before about some excuse how condoms don't work or are bad in some way. Hazardous to health etc.... It's just another attempt by the church there putting themselves and their needs above the safety and well being of their people for the sake of doctrine and the status quo.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:02 PM
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21. Archbishop Francisco Chimoio: twisted sick fuck.
There is no hell, but Chimoio deserves the damnation he believes in.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:37 PM
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22. Thou shalt not bear false witness
must have just been a general guideline, not a commandment. And you would think a Catholic Archbishop would be educated on such things such as the serious lack of any shelf life for the AIDs virus outside of a living host.

That worthless piece of shit is just trying to scare people away from using condoms (because condoms are bad apparently). What? Does he just want people to go forth and multiply and produce lots more Catholics? Asshole.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:53 PM
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23. Chovexani: Catholic Church tainted with CRAZY
:crazy:
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