House GOP likely to uphold health veto

[brooklynite]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON - Shrugging off a barrage of political attacks, House Republicans are on track to hand President Bush a victory this week by upholding his veto of legislation expanding children's health coverage.

...snip...

With a vote set for Thursday, not even Democrats predict they will amass the two-thirds majority needed to override Bush's veto, even on an issue that polls exceptionally well with the public.

While a handful of Democratic lawmakers who opposed the measure are expected to vote to override the veto, not a single Republican has announced plans to switch.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071015/ap_on_go_co/children_s_health_13

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It always looks dramatic in the movies when the Captain and crew go down with the ship, heads held high...

[Justitia]

1. dammit, dammit, dammit - what is wrong with people?!?! -eom

[rubberducky]

3. They are selfish, greedy bastards.

[Fovea]

5. they desperately desire

not to be re-elected.

Watch the wide stanced elephant piss directly on the third rail of murikan politics.

[0rganism]

7. or they know that they can be re-elected regardless

Perhaps their constituents don't care about the program, or maybe "the fix is in", so to speak.

Either way, SCHIPS is something that should be passed again and again and again, make bush veto it 30 times, and tie it to DoD supplemental appropriations if necessary.

[Fovea]

11. make bush veto it 30 times

or every frikkin day until they impeach him.

[Occulus]

23. This thread is part of the answer.

Almost everyone here is assuming that the Dems will be willling to "tie this around their necks", as someone downthread said.

The Dems in Congress are far too polite to use this against the Republicans. That very trait has been the downfall time and time again. They don't want to seem impolite- for all that they have not been the recipients of politeness- to their constituents.

The problem is: these are people who do not deserve polite words. These are people who do not deserve polite consideration. However, for whatever reason, the Dems in Congress seem addicted to reaching out to the mouth that bites them, over and over again.

"battered spouse syndrome" definitely comes to mind.

MESSAGE TO CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS: Anything you say or do will be used against you by them, even if it's something good. Ignore their feelings, ignore their protestations, ignore their armtwisting, make no deals with them, and do your level best to flush them out with this morning's after-sleep poo. They will assuredly do the very same to you- even if you teat them like a titanium-plated gold brick.

[fasttense]

2. Why do republicans hate American children? n/t

[dickbearton]

18. The GOP is a party of traitors and war criminals...

Now they prove, they are just plain evil. For whatever reason:
fear, greed, hate, ignorance, stupidity, mental illness; the
GOP is evil. The Corrupt Republicans reflect all that is wrong
with humankind. That is why, they cling so desperately and
hide behind their so called religion and family values; the
majority of Republicans are just plain evil.

[jgraz]

4. Here's hoping the Dems make'em pay for it

If any of the NO voters are running unopposed in '08, Howard Dean should resign.

[pinto]

6. This boggles me. The funding is comparatively small in the fed budget, it's a clear investment

in the future, it will reap savings in health care down the road as insured kids age, it's *not* socialized health care by a long shot, it's got plenty of safeguards for the extreme (R) claims of abuse...

The House Republican's intransigence on this just boggles me, politically and fiscally.

[mvd]

12. It's all about their special interests

Most of today's Repukes have a 19th century mindset. Just like with Scrooge, it's follow where the money is. And unlike with Scrooge, they would tell all three ghosts to go away.

[Yael]

8. I don't even know what to say.

Damn them all.

[soothsayer]

9. I really didn't want that big tax on cigars, so I'm sadly happy

[scarface2004]

10. they call it a 'victory'?!?!?!?!?

republicans..you are assholes!! and you suck!!! and you are fascists pricks!! and if it wasn't for election theft you wouldn't have one seat you bastards!!!!!

[jaybeat]

13. Especially since the Dem's already conceded defeat!

At least, that's what I heard on Thom Hartmann this morning: that on the Sunday talk shows, Dem leaders had said that they "knew" they wouldn't win on Thursday's vote, so they were preparing another (presumably more-compromised) bill that they hoped to get a veto-proof majority to vote for.

Always good strategy to CONCEDE DEFEAT before you've ACTUALLY LOST. I mean, think of the horribly relentless pressure those Repukes in vulnerable districts must feel right now, knowing that a watered-down bill is coming that they will be able to vote for TO OBTAIN POLITICAL COVER when they run for reelection.

They must REALLY be sweating their decision on how to vote Thursday, KNOWING that they can SIDE WITH BUSH now, and still claim to "support kids" later.

Yep. Gotta luv those Dems. Stickin' it to the Republicans, every chance they get.

:sarcasm:
(Hopefully not needed but just in case.)

[truthisfreedom]

14. This provides enormous benefit to the Dems running against these pukes next fall.

It shows a complete lack of compassion on their part.

[Gman]

15. Wonderful news!!!

This is wonderful news. I hope every single Republic votes to sustain the veto. Each and every one of them will have advocacy ads running in their district non-stop before the election about how they hate children. I love it! More fuel for the fire to burn their asses. More ammunition to take them out.

[mvd]

16. Yes, if we stick to sending the original bill up,

just very slightly modified. I don't think we should compromise and let them take undue credit. A Democrat will hopefully be in office in Jan. 2009 anyway.

[KAZ]

17. I'd rather have the children insured, but I get your point.

I've had it with the Pukes. The current crop is beyond redemption, and I wish nothing but bad things, for them and their families.

[Gman]

21. I definitely would too

but it looks like the House won't get 2/3 and it's the Republics that could make the 2/3. That means the Republics are obstructionist and it will get wrapped around their necks next year.

[rocktivity]

19. Be my guest, Rethugs.

We'll get our revenge next November why asking you what it was more important to let sick kids get sicker on ground that they didn't have enough money.

:headbang:
rocknation

[rodeodance]

20. A copy of the poll was obtained by The Associated Press.

"This is a hard bill to explain," said Rep. Deborah Pryce of Ohio, another GOP supporter.

But House Republicans quietly distributed a survey by pollster David Winston, who is close to Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the party leader, with suggested talking points.

It said critics of the legislation can win the public debate if they say they favor "covering uninsured children without expanding government coverage to adults, illegal immigrants and those who already have insurance...." A copy of the poll was obtained by The Associated Press.

Additionally, an AP analysis suggests individual Republicans who side with Bush may have relatively little to fear politically. The 151 Republicans who voted against the bill when it passed last month averaged nearly 64 percent of the vote in their most recent election. Many had vote totals in the 70-percent range, making them all but invulnerable from attack.

Among those who supported the measure, the average vote total in 2006 was 59 percent. While several among them are in safe seats, the list includes well-known moderates as well as those Republicans who squeaked to victory in 2006 such as Rep. Vern Buchanan of Florida and Jon Porter of Nevada; or those with statewide ambitions, including Rep. Heather Wilson of New Mexico and Tom Davis of Virginia.

[Odin2005]

22. And to think these fuckers call themselves "pro-life" with a straign face. Fuck them, fuck them all.

They are no better then slime, no, wait, they ARE slime. Damn them, damn them all to the 9th circle of Hell.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[KamaAina]

25. "Life begins at conception and ends at birth"

our sardonic slogan from the old clinic defense days.

[classysassy]

24. Just reward

those heartless lawmakers,(lawbreakers) wiil recieve their just reward.