Drudge Headline: Moveon.org Finalist is Producer of Another Bush/Hitler Ad

[seventhson]

Drudge is going bizzonkers!!!!


http://drudgereport.com/flash2mm.htm


NEW VIDEO UNCOVERED: MOVEON.ORG FINALIST IS PRODUCER OF ANOTHER BUSH/HITLER AD
Wed Jan 07 2004 17:06:59 ET

One of the finalists of the MoveOn.org ad contest is responsible for another heinous web video that compares Bush to Hitler, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

An ad by "Take Back the Media" is one of 15 Finalists in MoveOn.org's Bush in 30 Seconds Commercial Contest. Produced by Michael Stinson , The ARMY OF ONE flash animation has been chosen out of over 1000 submission by nearly 3 million votes online.

But currently streaming on the Take Back site with ARMY OF ONE is another shocking advert produced by Michael Stinson -- alleging Bush/Nazi ties!

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

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MY MESSAGE TO MICHAEL: Right ON!!!!


Drudge is going farking NUTS!!!

FRONT PAGE !

GO SYMBOLMAN!!!

Thanks Drudge too --- you fell for the ol' Tarbaby routine/

Please don't throw me into that nasty ol' media thornbush, Mr. Drudge! Them Bush-Nazi history prickers will GET me!

And THANK YOU TO SKINNER ELAD ET AL for THIS site, where DUers (our own Symbolman among us) are CHANGING THE WORLD!!!

The Bush Nazi story is spreading like wildfire! No one can say they were not told or did not know.

[truthisfreedom]

1. is drudge newsworthy?

ick.

[seventhson]

2. DURDGE is a valid source, especially when attacking a fellow Duer!

Symbolman is one of US!!!

This deserves LBN for its value in and of itself as a mark of progress and visibility.

[truthisfreedom]

4. i'm all for supporting symbolman, but why raise drudge's hits?

[goforit]

36. Symbolman is outstanding!!!.................

Drudge has crown him!!!

We salute you!!!

[mouse7]

43. Symbolman did that?!?

NO SHIT!

EXCELLENT! I've seen him post here and there while lurking.

[LeighAnn]

33. He was newsworthy to O'Reilly tonight

He was featured in the "Most Ridiculous Item" section, I think, so that drove even more people to Drudge tonight.

Oh beautiful day! One of my web pages is linked on that Bush/Nazi flash Drudge linked to, I was wondering why my hits were going through the roof. It's wonderful to know how many people are facing the facts for the first time tonight. That flash production of Symbolman's deserves an Oscar.

I hope Take Back the Media has enough bandwidth to handle the Drudge traffic!

[joeunderdog]

61. Bush/Hitler, Bush/Hitler, Bush/Hitler, Bush/Hi...try not to think about it

Any advertising is good advertising.

I LOVE THIS SHIT!!!

Keeeeeeeep it going Druge!

[Minstrel Boy]

3. This is silly. Everyone knows that Hillary is Hitler.

Freakin' feminazi. :eyes:

Tells you something about acceptable discourse in America, doesn't it?

[Snoopy2]

20. Considering that Drudge filled in for Rush during Rehab

The man that coined both phrases and uses the regularly. He can't be that offended when someone throws around Nazi/Hitler imagery.

[Beetwasher]

5. I LOVE All This Hullabaloo Over Comparing Bush to Hitler

It's great! The more times Bush and Hitler get mentioned in tandem, the better as far as I'm concerned. Get the meme out there... Bush/Hitler...From a marketing perspective, you couldn't ask for a better reaction from the morons on the right. The more noise they make about it, the more attention it gets...I don't care whether it's a valid comparison or not, it's about time their side went on the defensive on an issue like this...

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

7. Agreed...

I'll say it myself just for the satisfaction. Bush is another Hitler!

http://www.geocities.com/puhleeze_puhleeze/heilbush.html

[ElementaryPenguin]

9. You're 100% correct, BW!!

(as usual) :toast:

[aquart]

46. It's valid.

Hitler didn't have millions in mass graves at the beginning, either.

(But I still say he was a much better demogogue. IMO)

[lostnfound]

57. Yes! Our side sets debate. Reps do this stuff to the Dems all the time.

How much better is it to see rightwingers arguing over how wrong the Bush/Hitler comparison is, than it is to see rightwingers arguing over whether Clinton foreign policy was driven by desire to distract country from Monica, or how to "force balance in the liberal media".

The rightwingers know the best defense is a good offensive, and they are SO offensive.

When it comes to this administration, our spokesmen and grassroots groups need to take the gloves off.

[Cooley Hurd]

6. Hey... Symbolman's flash is nothing but truth...

The Bush family's business and banking dealings with Nazi Germany and IG Farber during the 30's & 40's is well-documented. I really hope Symbolman's flash hits the mainstream because it might get people (and possibly the press) asking questions about the BFEE's not-so-distant past.

[Sagan]

8. They can't disprove it...

So they just whine.

[CatWoman]

10. Plus --

Michael's ad ties in nicely with Kevin Phillips' book.

bwahahahahahahaha

and Phillips is a reknown right winger.

:D

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=991399

[0rganism]

38. Why disprove it?! Symbolman's animation clearly says bush isn't a nazi...

so stop saying that! :evilgrin:

[Hoppin_Mad]

11. TBTM now overloaded ! Go Symbolman ! BushoNazi is another Citizen Kane

[peekaloo]

23. Triumph of the Wimp is also excellent.

[BiggJawn]

26. "Triumph of The Wimp" gave me chills...

One of Symbolman's finest, IMO....

"Heinous Bush/Hitler Web Video" indeed..Hey, Drudgey! It's documanted in the National Archives that your boy's grandpappy was zinged for TRADING WITH THE ENEMY, and I ain't talking about Tojo here.

Prescott Bush ws also VERY interested in the "science" of Eugenics, too....You know, Matty, as in "Master Race"....

[Sterling]

12. Good press for TBTM

Reward for having the balls to to tell the truth.

[Emillereid]

13. I think it's great the Drudge is directing people

to Symbolman's flash presentation. It might open more than a few eyes.

[NashVegas]

14. Just Get Ready for the (Dem Nominee) = Osama Ads This Fall

After the (Hair) Club for Growth's new release, I'm starting to suspect what this whole brew-ha-ha is about is to point the finger at Dems (oh, those wicked wicked people) and pave the way for the upcoming ridiculousness we'll see in the campaign when Rove & company jump in all the way. This way, they don't look so bad.

Wait. Watch. Be prepared to defend the Dem nominee.

[T Bone]

22. Let them try it

A dem nominee= Osama faberication.

Will America wonder when it FINALLY comes out mainstream that the Bushes and the Bin Laden Family have business connections going back for DECADES as well ?

Bush Family did business with the NAZIS.
Bush Family, w* included, has done business with the Bin Ladens.

Draw your own conclusions, America.

[0rganism]

27. It's been done before (against Sen. Max Cleland, GA, 2002)

Not only that, but it worked.

[progressivebydesign]

35. There was already one with Dean and Osama, wasn't there?

I know there was one, the first one from the hair growth club or whatever, that had Dean involved with Osama.. or was it Saddam. I have trouble keeping bad guys who are kept under lock and key until really important political/election moments, straight. Sorry.

[0rganism]

37. James Carville pointed out a Dean-Hitler attack made by a repuke

It was either yesterday or Monday on X-fire, Carville totally wasted Ed "the head" Gillespie on the issue. Complete and total savaging.

"Where was the concern when your own pundits were making Hitler-cracks about Howard Dean, Ed?"

[GoBlue]

69. Pre-emptive action needed then.

Ads touting the Bush/BinLaden connection.

[susu369]

15. Woo Hoo

a big grin broke out when I saw that on Drudge!

"Thanks Drudge too --- you fell for the ol' Tarbaby routine." Perfect.

LOL!

[MrPrax]

16. Right On...

If a someone questions it...it is a great way to introduce Prescott Bush and the Silverado and how can a family with so many despicable character get elected unless they STOLE an election...

The comparison is dynamite and anyone that brings it up is playing dynamite...

Oh yeah there is the matter of Karl Roverer and his Monkey Tree...

Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurb¸ro AG. They built Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany.
http://www.wiolawapress.com/karl.htm

[kimchi]

17. How ya like them apples?

The ones that don't fall far from the tree, I mean. Thanks for the tidbit MrPrax.

And keep fighting the good fight, Symbolman!

[BiggJawn]

29. I wouldn't spread that "Roverer" story too thickly....

I spent almost a whole Saturday trying to find any information about ANY of the players in that story that did NOT track back to Al Martin.
In the whole wide web, only Al Martin has any info about "Roverer", S-D-I,AG, "Gauleiter of Mecklenburg"...

[NV1962]

51. Two countering sources

One, by Al Martin, laying out that assertion (but little substantiation) here:
http://www.rense.com/general42/rove.htm

Another, debunking it but *with* references, here:
http://www.freepress.org/departments.php/display/10/2003/418

Murky stuff. Bah.

[NV1962]

50. Legacy

Think he rakes up high scores with this?

Speaking of stupification...

“A fun map that has good effects and solid gameplay.”

Insane.

[lostnfound]

59. That's awful. But who's "he"?

Guess I'm being dense but what's the connection?

[MasonJar]

18. Did you see Crossfire?

They played a Moveon Bush/Nazi ad and the Max Cleland/ Osama ad. The Repugs were so shocked that anyone would compare Bush to Hitler, but saw nothing wrong with comparing Max Cleland to Osama. (They must have been asleep in Georgia to let that atrocity influence their vote.) The Pugs are getting more obnoxious; we must get rid of them. That deal where no Dems were allowed to work on the Drug bill disenfranchised half of the country. I hope they run it unless there is backlash.

[salin]

25. I missed it - but am heartened that they showed BOTH

at least a few tv viewers will see that the Rightwingers who are crying foul - do this on a regular basis and don't have any high ground to give.

[Tuttle]

54. The pukes ran for cover...

clearly stating

"It was three years ago!"

Which it wasn't - as if that is any excuse you'd expect for someone over the age of, say, 12???

Tut-tut

[leftchick]

52. I believe it was those fancy new Diebold voting machines

That "influenced" their votes....

[DoctorMyEyes]

19. Ha! The right didn't know when to leave well enough alone!

I hope EVERYONE with internet access sees Symbolmans flash!
:bounce:

[LiberalOklahoman]

21. Eh, I liked it.

I personally liked the ad. :)

Ironically the only place I have found the video since that time is on the RNC's website. Hhahaha. Fascists.

[NV1962]

24. Reminds me of a great slogan posted yesterday here

By someone else - not me...

The All New Bush 04 slogan: "Vote for me - I'm not Hitler!"

[0rganism]

28. I've always liked that particular flashimation

Symbolman & American Stranger really know how to pack a lot of truth into a tight space.

Of course, it should be kind of hard for repukes to complain about a short which specifically claims that bush is NOT a nazi, but they never cease to find a way to whine.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

30. if it pisses 'm off that's success!!--ha ha

let'm git thier panties in a bunch !
The Bushes have consistantly been able to bribe their way into hidding their family history-
Junior even screwed that up- now he's indirectly responsible for outing his own family the dork idiot that he is !!

[sonias]

31. keep spreading the meme

bu$h = hitler
bu$h = hitler
bu$h = hitler

(at least we know he wants to be a dictator according to his own words)

Hey it worked for the Reich wing when they kept lying about Gore in 2000. You repeat it often enough people will believe it. BFEE does have blood on its hands and Prescott traded with the enemy Nazis.

Sonia

[Jack Rabbit]

32. Drudge

Drudge's headlines are like the one I see standing in the check out line at the supermarket. I either don't believe them or I don't care.

[progressivebydesign]

34. Double standard much?

How is it that during Clinton's years as President, I saw a lot of horrid people with frightening bumper stickers calling for his assasination.. things like a photo of Clinton with the words, "Where is Lee Harvey Oswald when we need him?" Now.. how can things like that, and people like Buckley who wrote for a national publication calling for the murder of Chelsea Clinton.. how can things like that be acceptable and legal, and suddenly the GOP gets their big ugly panties in a bunch over some people's interpretation of Bush's fascist ways?

The GOP can dish it out.. the make a biz of dishing it out.. but they can't take it. Fuck them. Long live Symbolman!!!

[0007]

64. That's the way I feel!

Those schmucks can pitch but they can't catch -

Great video.

[Gman]

39. Such faux outrage

looks so silly.

[glitch]

40. Bush is not Hitler

He is Hitler's Revenge.

[seventhson]

41. Prescott's revenge!

LOL

[Voltaire99]

42. Great Bush/Nazi connection flash ad

Excellent work by Take Back the Media.

Thanks for the tip, Drudge!

[truthisfreedom]

44. sometimes i wonder who drudge is working for...

[serf]

70. Drudge is working for Drudge

and Drudge alone

[0rganism]

45. it's a good bet that 90% of voters didn't know about 1940s bush banking

Some of those republicans who vengefully click the flash link are going to get a mighty big surprise.

"they did what?"

Drudge has unwittingly(?) done the electorate of this country a most excellent favor. The more people exposed to such comparisons, the more it becomes "common knowledge". Did Gore say he "invented the internet"? Well, after everyone's heard the "story", the truth doesn't even matter anymore. That Symbolman is mostly dealing in verifiable fact for the video is just icing on the cake.

The notion that bush really is comparable to Hitler is going to permeate internet users like water in a wet sponge.

Methinks Symbolman has dealt a deathblow to Godwin's law.

[aquart]

48. Yah, I wish he'd given more facts on that.

Also, some of the flashes were too fast to read.

I didn't know that IG Farben withheld technology from the US with American money. The Americans who helped them do that should have hanged.

I note that those international money men who helped Germany destroy itself are now doing the same to us.

Some things never change.

[jsw_81]

47. It's amazing

Right-wing radio hosts like Limbaugh and Savage can compare Democrats with bloodthirsty murderers like Al Qaeda, Stalin and Mao over and over and over, yet when some guy on the internet makes a silly ad comparing Bush with Hitler then suddenly everyone's outraged and it's front-page news.

[aquart]

49. Silly? No. A case of Truth Hurts.

[symbolman]

53. Thanks everyone!

What a bunch of idiots! THEY are spreading the word, creating the MEME, and it's my pleasure to help them -- they just don't get it..

and if this isn't enough for them I have about 200 pages from the National Archives as my disposal to totally convince ANYONE but a complete moron that the Bush family fortune CAME from Nazi money..

They really don't like facts at all.. and they whine like babies, -- or as my wife says, "THou dost protest too much".. :)

I appreciate all the good vibes, you wouldn't believe the emails I'm getting.. a lot of them could use a tutor - don't know how many times I've been called a "sore looser" today..

Can't wait to get up into their faces, if you present the truth and don't back down they fold up like lawn chairs and I have nothing to lose at this point :)

Monday will be really interesting, even if we lose we'll still win.. call it a Rovian Moment :)

Besides, what does the ARMY OF ONE have to due with Hitler? NOTHING.. but it scares the hell out of them, they have been demonizing MoveOn for days now.. running scared..

Hey, who cares if someone calls Bush a Nazi? If he has nothing to HIDE then what's the problem? As someone here pointed out, I didn't call him a Nazi, that's the TItle of the piece (can they read?)

I called him a FASCIST and that was according to Mussolini's definition of "corporatism"..

once again, thanks, and DON'T BACK DOWN FOR ONE SECOND - TAKE THE MEDIA BACK!

[RetroLounge]

60. You rock symbolman!

Keep up the good work!

:yourock:

[lostnfound]

62. Just sent in my first ever contribution to TBTM

Keep it up..

[lostnfound]

63. PS -- the flash is really good, but a suggestion..

a couple slides about 20% of the way through that talk about Prescott Bush and the ties to the Nazis have lots of text..anyway to give them just a little extra time to read them before moving on to the next one. It's hard to read it fast enough, and I think it's really important to let it sink in.

[0007]

65. Yes! it was too fast for me.

[durutti]

55. Who cares?

Where were the headlines when wingnuts were comparing Clinton to Hitler?

[4dsc]

56. Movoon.org and antiwar movement

according to Rightie are all tied to the WWP!!! they are a sick crowd over there and this is how they tie them together: http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/march/0320_antiwar_fundingp.shtml

[imax2268]

58. Give them hell symbolman...

Some people out there know that the Bush Family was rooted deep with the Nazi Party...now(in my opinion)more people will be curious and look into it more...

anyway...I liked your presentation...keep up the great work...

Do you have a hatemail section...?
You should...I could use a good laugh every now and then...

[SideshowScott]

66. When Drudge starts reporting all the Republicans who said the dems...

where in Cahoots with Saddam and Osoma then ill care..This one way bias in the news is making me sick..It sould like more of a sore nerve hitting too close to home for Bush and Co...After all we all know Drudge is on Karl Roves Speeddial

[SideshowScott]

67. OH and one more thing..So its ok for them to call Hillary. "Hitlery"???

I have been hearing the word Hitlery from Rush, Freepers, Hannity, Savage and any other goon right winger..So thats OK..then this comes along and the feathers start flying like the sky in falling in the right wing henhouse..( Thats all they are really...They have less of a backbone than they accuse the dems of..They are just louder thats all )
Truth really hurts those who try to hide it i say....

[4dsc]

68. Rush's reference to Hitlery

http://www.iconservative.com/rush_limbaugh_whatever.htm

[symbolman]

71. still getting lots of misspelled hate mail

does not spelling well breed ignorance or is it the other way around..

How many people are going to call me a Sore LOOSER..

thanks for the support :)

[AromaticSocks]

72. You *do* know it's what the RW wants don't you?

Using Nazi Hitler ads are the best way to lose votes with middle America.

Changing the world alright...