New Republic endorses Lieberman (CNN) ...n/t

[pinto]

[rooboy]

1. Oh, now THAT will swing a lot of votes !!! n/t

[oasis]

2. Yeah, Peter Bienart says they like his consistency on the Iraq war.

[pinto]

5. pretty poor argument from Bienart, imho, Saddam 24/7 doesn't cut it..n/t

[leesa]

22. Consistantly wrong, that is. How about Kucinich's consistancy?

Poor argument

[annagull]

3. Big suprise (yawn)

considering they have been his cheerleading section in almost every issue.

[oasis]

4. Joe to appear after the break to discuss the endorsement.

[SadEagle]

6. Poor Joe.

And I thought his campaign couldn't do any worse.

[goodhue]

7. that wild and crazy liberal magazine (n/t)

[Name removed]

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[0007]

11. Right above the "Subject" box when replying to a message!

[oasis]

9. Joe immediately attacks Clark for taking "six different positions on the

war and then finally opposing it". Okay Joe, you're asking for it.

[Hawkeye-X]

10. In this case, Joe is right. n/t

[KissMyAsscroft]

12. Unfortunately, he is right...

I remember seeing Clark do the play by play on the Iraq war on CNN, and now he is against it? Please.

[Emillereid]

13. The only surprize is that they didn't endorse Bush

I used to like the New Republic -- when did it become such a conservative rag??

[Blitz]

14. Here is the link

Recall for a moment the political climate in the United States in January 2001. Ralph Nader and the Supreme Court had made George W. Bush president, but he had lost the popular vote, and his party had lost seats in the House and Senate. The campaign had been fought largely on Democratic terrain--with Bush promising a larger federal role in education and health care, and a multicultural Republican Party. With national security a second-tier political issue, and welfare and crime no longer political issues at all, all that remained of Ronald Reagan's winning formula was tax cuts. And even that had been challenged by John McCain in the primary. With Latinos, professionals, and other growing constituencies trending Democratic, Bush's victory appeared to many like a fluke in a country heading the other way.

If Reagan's formula looked increasingly obsolete, Bill Clinton's seemed alive and well. The nomination of Al Gore and Joe Lieberman had seemed to secure the New Democratic legacy. Foreign policy hawkishness, free trade, and fiscal discipline--once heresies in the party--were now mainstream. Indeed, the dominant Democratic response to Gore and Lieberman's loss was to chastise them for not running more explicitly on Clinton's record. When The New Republic endorsed Gore in the 2000 Democratic primary, the editors wrote that, "s the Clinton administration draws to a close, it leaves a Democratic Party cleansed of many of the habits that long alienated it from average Americans and from its own best traditions."

If only those words were still true today. The years since January 2001 have been among the worst in the contemporary history of the Democratic Party. To be sure, the party has suffered from events beyond its control. Since September 11, 2001, George W. Bush has ruthlessly turned the country's fear and rage into a wedge issue, sacrificing national unity but recreating the visceral flag-politics of the 1980s. But the Democratic Party has also buried itself. In late 2002, with the Bush administration threatening preemptive war in Iraq, Democratic strategists developed a remarkable plan for the midterm elections: Ignore national security. One year after the bloodiest foreign attack on U.S. soil, and on the eve of one of the most audacious foreign policy gambles in U.S. history, Democratic candidates campaigned on the sluggish economy and prescription drugs. And Bush and Karl Rove ripped them to shreds.

From that humiliation, the Howard Dean revolt was born. In early 2003, the former Vermont governor began captivating the Democratic base with his thunderous attacks on Washington Democrats. But, in their righteousness, Dean and his supporters have embraced an analysis potentially even more damaging than that of the party leaders they seek to depose. We are not speaking primarily about Dean's general-election prospects (though they are grim, and their potential consequences for the House and Senate even grimmer). The problem with Dean's vision of the Democratic Party is more than electoral; it is intellectual and moral. And the candidate who offers the clearest, bravest alternative is Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman.

more:

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=editorial011904

[pinto]

18. "the problem with Dean's vision...is intellectual and moral" (TNR)

I don't accept that.
The New Republic has a problem with Dean morally? What the F*&% does that mean?

I would like some clarification, as they say, from TNR.

Any of us would ask the same.

[Blitz]

19. Here's some clarification from TNR

Here are all of the TNR Primary articles on Howard Dean. Clarification galore:

Slouching Towards McGovernism

A Good Flip-Flop

It's Not Personal, It's Just Politics

Dean Finds Jesus

The Doctor Gets Some of His Own Medicine

Outspoken

Worthy Cause

Vermont - The New Bermuda

Reform School

Second-Place Pander

Watch Your Mouth

Move On

Media Savvy

Dean Opts Out of a Question

Back Talk

Lights Out

Insider Politics

High Regard

Point-Less

Dean Uses the R-Word

Anywhere but Iraq

Cutting and Running

The Old College Try

Hiding in the Grassroots

Not Racist, but Boorish

Southern Civility

Moving Target

Bad Advice

Trading Policy

Conspiracy Theory

No Respect

Lack of Intelligence

Right Words, Wrong Guy

Ego Trippi

Dean Speaks the Truth

Silent Treatment

Successful Initiative

Clinton Recycle

Who Needs Facts When You've Got Mud?

Power Struggle

Actions Speak Louder

Evolution of One

The Way It Is

Short-Term Memory

Dean-Lite?

Bad Link

License Revoked

Soft Spot

It's Called NEXIS. Use It.

Gingrich Lite?

Misquote

Peace of Mind

Weak Defense

Poor Standards

The Angry White Man

Say What?

Bio Engineering

Policy Trade-In

Swear to Tell The Truth

Dean's Not Sharing

The Art of Campaigning

Left Behind

Dumbing Down

No-Trade Clause

Department of "Mot Technically a Flip-Flop"

Campaign Finance v. Financing a Campaign

True Believer

Hillbillier Than Thou

Corn Hustle

Telling It Like It Is

Tap Dance

Quit While You're Behind

Means Testing

Deans Tenet Problem and Ours

What is Howard Dean Talking About

Dean Ties Himself in Knots on Iraq

No Empty Promises

Dean Plays Nice

Dean's Blind Eye

Fat-Cat Free

Security Blanket

Say What?

Special Funding

Good Question

Where's Iraq?

Death Wish

Dean Strikes Out

Good Recovery

Death Becomes Dean

Share The Blame

Dean Sends Graham Down to The Minors

Enough Already

Playing The Right Cards

Dean Talks Straight on Health Care

Educating the Public

One Step Forward, Two Steps Back

Domestic Abuse

Base Appeal

Let Them Eat Guns

Dean Strikes The Right Tone

The Good Doctor

French Models

Corn/Beef Hash

Dean Deserves Some Credit for Expanding Coverage

Dean Gets the Tax Cut Right

There you go. The good, the bad, the ugly, in reverse chronological order. Happy reading.

Edited to fix links.

[The Stranger]

27. Wow, I'm not about to read every one of those, but the five or six I've

looked at makes me wonder why the New Republic would launch such a smear campaign against Howard Dean.

[Blitz]

15. Here are the links for the other candidates

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=cottle011904">The Case for John Edwards

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=crowley011904">The Case for Dick Gephardt

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=scoblic011904">The Case for Wesley Clark

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040119&s=cohn011904">The Case for Howard Dean

[JNelson6563]

16. That useless rag

Their "report cards" on the candidates made me ill. When the bashed any of our candidates I admit to having a newfound appreciation for whoever they were smearing. If the New Republic doesn't like them, they can't be all bad. :-)

Julie

[Voltaire99]

24. Agreed, TNR is crap -- mischievous crap

Apologist for (hell, instructor of) the rotten ideas that have warped and drained the Democratic party, TNR is the intellectual blueprint for Republican-lite.

[NashVegas]

17. I Feel Like Mary Louise Parker in "Angels in America"

When her husband finally confessed he was gay.

[pasadenaboy]

20. that is the funniest thing ever!!

I'm going to post that on Atrios if you don't mind.

[NashVegas]

25. LOL, Fine

Just make sure you get the spelling right.

[ozymandius]

21. As goes the New Republic, so goes the nation. nt

[Arlington]

23. So who reads TNR anymore? Or listens to that Republican Mole Lieberman ?

With one moistened finger testing the political winds and the other up its own ass, TNR often gets the two confused.

[David__77]

26. Why is this a story?

I don't understand... Is that magazine even very widely-read, as compared with others like The Nation et al.? Also, of course they endorsed him--that's foregone.

[FrankBooth]

28. The irrelevant

endorses the irrelevant. How surprising. Yawn.

[Atlant]

29. They've been kind of "out of step" for quite a while now. (NT)