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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:43 PM
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Poll: Hispanics Shift Toward Democrats
Source: Associated Press

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"Hispanics are returning to the Democratic Party after several years of drifting toward the Republicans, with many saying Bush administration policies have been harmful to their community, a poll showed Thursday.

By 57 percent to 23 percent, more Hispanic registered voters say they favor Democrats than Republicans, according to a survey by the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center.

That 34 percentage point Democratic edge _ which includes people who said they lean toward either party _ has grown since July 2006, when a Pew poll measured a 21 point difference. Then, 49 percent of registered Hispanic voters said they favored Democrats and 28 percent chose Republicans.

In 1999 before President Bush's election, more Hispanics favored Democrats than Republicans by 58 percent to 25 percent _ about the same margin as in the current poll."



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/06/AR2007120601181.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:45 PM
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1. Gosh, I wonder what caused that to happen?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:22 PM
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6. I think the Republicans' plan to woo them with accusations of a rape society and leprosy need to be
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 02:23 PM by underpants
let's say "revisited"
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:47 PM
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2. Why ANY immigrant group would ever favor Republicans is beyond me.
They have ALWAYS and ever been the anti-immigrant party.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:57 PM
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14. This group never did. This is BS. The same BS that said
Kerry lost to the "values voters" that no one could ever locate.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:47 PM
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19. I'm not saying Hispanics did, but there was a small shift.
That has reversed and will continue to do so. I am not making some blanket statement like that for no reason. I am saying it because I refuse to believe that any group targetted by a political party for discrimination would vote for that party.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:55 PM
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20. There is no evidence that any shift happened.
It's one of the fictions the Thuggery brought out that first weekend to try to account for their "win".

It didn't happen. But, if it puts a doubt in people's minds, they win.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:57 PM
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21. All I know is Republicans barely got 20% of the Hispanic vote at one time.
There is evidence to suggest they have gotten as much as 32-34% recently.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 11:00 PM
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22. They claimed that Bush did better in 2004 than in 2000.
It didn't happen. It was just like the false claim that "values voters" went out for Bush. Nobody could find any of them.

They claimed all kinds of things, over and over and over, to distract us. They said the college kids didn't come out for Kerry when 2004 was the very biggest year for the kids turning out.

:shrug:
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:48 PM
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3. welcome back, fellow Latino brothers and sisters
I hope you've seen the error of your ways. Now let this be the last time you fall for Republican "yo hablo espanol" appeals.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:56 PM
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4. so they've figured out what many of us knew from the beginning
bush and i think his criminal gang say one thing, then do the oppositte which generally hurts the majority.

call a bill the clean air bill which incidently increases pollution in the air.
call for immigration reform which puts a fense around communities


and most people really fell for it and believed bush's lies.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 01:56 PM
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5. I guess that they've started to realize that they're going to have to get
green cards (despite the fact that they are natural-born citizens) or face jailtime for not producing one (under Repuke regimes) ...
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:45 PM
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7. Probably the "anti-immigrant" crap that is doing it
As what they push is really cold and heartless. The Republicans were making gains when Hispanics were pushing a more social conservative platform (abortion, gay marriage) as most are Catholics who lean conservative in religion. But the Catholic Church is also supportive of the human costs of economic migration which is spun as anti-illegal immigrant and this issue sides with the Democratic Party.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 03:51 PM
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8. The Viva Bush-ers can crawl back under their rocks and die n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:03 PM
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15. Is that a comparison of Hispanics and insects or what?
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 06:08 PM by sfexpat2000
Before you make such a disgusting statement, you might try to find out if it's true. Let alone realize that there are a number of Latino DUers like me who will read what you type.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:13 PM
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17. No.
Race baiting prick.



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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 04:10 PM
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9. Big thing
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 04:11 PM by Rambis
I live in a community that is 50% Hispanic and the prevailing attitude in the past few years has been...
If you pull yourself up by your own bootstraps and are a self made man or woman then you vote republican. It is a strange badge of courage type of situation is the best way I can describe it. I am pleased to hear that the Hispanic community is realizing bush does nothing but harm to them. Republicans have one interest and that is corporate interest and paying hispanic workers slave wages is all a part of it.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:27 PM
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10. Surprise!
They don't like people who think Puerto Rico is a foreign country and Los Angeles is an English phrase.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:44 PM
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11. Could it be this?
Illegal immigrant arrests in South QUADRUPLE

Immigration agents in the southeast who specialize in tracking fugitives arrested four times the number of illegal immigrants in the 2007 reporting year as they did last year.

That puts their Georgia/North Carolina territory third out of 24 teams in the nation that focus on fugitives, behind only Los Angeles and Miami, according to federal agents.

Our teams have become increasingly better at identifying people who not only broke our immigration laws, but who may be a threat to our communities," Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Richard Rocha said.

Four teams of ICE officers two in Atlanta and one each in Raleigh and Charlotte arrested 2,295 people in the 12 months leading up to Oct. 2007, up from 525 in the previous 12 months.

Of that number, 1,031 illegal immigrants had ignored a judge's order to leave the country and were fugitives; an additional 123 were both fugitives and criminals; 574 were criminals without deportation orders; and 567 were simply illegal immigrants caught when agents arrested the others.


Also, rethugs attend immigration ceremonies to recruit new citizens to their party. I have read in several hispanic magazines, after a five year period, most often, hispanics will change their party affiliation to dems.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:53 PM
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12. This is so weird. Hispanics have never "shifted" towards the Republics.
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 05:54 PM by sfexpat2000
I wonder what this piece of disinfo is about.

Don't know if you all remember, but the weekend after 2004, there were all these reports about Hispanics going in bigger numbers for Junior. They were all debunked. :shrug:
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 08:33 PM
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18. I don't know either.
But I can already hear the GOP screeching "Illegal alien voter fraud!" about Latino votes if the Prez election swings to the Dems.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 05:56 PM
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13. This stat befuddles me
all the Hispanics I have EVER known and grown up with are about 98% Democrat. The only Hispanics I know of that are staunch repukes are Cuban Americans.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 06:07 PM
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16. I think it's based on the fake notion that Latinos supported Junior
more in 2004 than in 2000. I'm sorry, I don't have that link any more. But the idea was put out there that first weekend - just like students didn't show and Bush won Ohio, and was taken apart later.

BushCo claimed that Latinos went more for Bush, but sober academics concluded that no such thing happened -- which makes this report sort of weird.
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