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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:56 PM Original message |
Germany moves to ban Scientology |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. The entire country will be branded as Suppressive |
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cbmanchester (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. And they were being so tolerant lately! |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good work, Deutschland |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't know as I agree with this |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I don't think its because of the precepts of the religion |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. In that case they'd be better off dealing with the practices |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. I dunno, if that's the reason then it is a criminal organization... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Good point. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Exactly, it's a business |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
73. Let me just say |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. Right, the stopped clock syndrome |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
110. I think its also the possible shades of Nazism |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #110 |
145. Agree, totally --- in fact, it's their moral duty to do just that === |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Because it only became a "religion" to avoid legal entanglements |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. According to people in SF (Hubbard started out as an SF author), ... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Science Fiction, that is. |
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ideagarden (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. I thought it was Aurthur C Clark |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. I heard he made that bet with Harlan Ellison |
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dancing kali (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
66. I heard the bet was with Anton LaVey |
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UnyieldingHierophant (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #18 |
132. True...and he won the bet |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
101. Wish I could remember where I read it, it wasn't on the Web so can't google it ... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. It's a pyramid scheme |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. And that differs from other religions, how? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Others have posted it here already, but... |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #65 |
82. Well... |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
87. well, in Germany, church taxes are collected by the local tax office |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. It's VOLUNTARY. |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. well, I can tell you that much: |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #94 |
147. Look, there have to be consumer protections --- ever buy a car? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
95. Je$u$ wiped out my grandmother's life savings. |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:26 AM Response to Reply #44 |
109. Depends on which religions you talk about |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #109 |
131. Hahahahah SOOOOOO true! |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Not a bad thing really |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I can completely relate |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #139 |
156. Tell me about it |
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Sin (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. heres some of the problem. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
90. It's not a faith. |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. yes, but this is not the question |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
118. All religions are rackets. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
124. IIRC a lot of the definition between cult and religion according to the Germans I spoke with... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
130. It's a con that bilks people out of large amounts of money |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:22 AM Response to Reply #130 |
146. In fact, Dems here are starting to investigate the huge churches with no church --- !!! |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
4. Gosh, it sounds like Germany |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. ! |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. "to be in conflict with the principles of the nation's constitution" |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. sounds pretty arbitrary to me too |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. Actually, they are usually |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. Is this AFTER Cruises movie has been filmed there? |
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sasquatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. They do not want him there filming it in the first place |
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salib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Time for the popcorn |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Scientology is a cult, not a religion. |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. And that is different from the religions here how? nt |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Ding! goes the bell. nt |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Most churches that I am aware of do not demand money or fees, although it's certainly encouraged. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Thank you! That "all religions are cults" BS is *so* tiresome. (nt) |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Not really, some are just more accepted than others. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It's aboslute BS. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. If you say so. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. No, not me. Experts in cults and deprogramming people. (nt) |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. One just bleeds you out quicker then the other. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Take it up with those who are experts in the field. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Not well-defined--a very thin line. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. This is true |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:31 AM Response to Reply #74 |
111. Normally I would be with you on this, but |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 03:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Of course no religion would turn down money. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
100. Religions are a little more subtle |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Your entire freaking post is bullshit. The bigotry here is disgusting. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 01:44 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Apparently at the churches you attended they did not read from the Bible. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
120. A Religion is simply a cult legitimized by society |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
122. There is a simpler argument. Germany has a legal definition of "cult" |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #122 |
136. You seem to have no idea what you are talking about |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
119. Uh, yes, those little things called "facts are so tiresome, aren't they? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
148. Organized patriarchal religions all began as "cults" -- using violene to force people to be members |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. It starts with a "C" and ends with "hristianity"... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
102. religion/ cult |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #102 |
128. Sounds like the rebubbalican party, doesn't it? |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. They put it vaguely and |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
14. Obviously they operate under a different constitution |
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western mass (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
77. The "organization" itself is the source of this behavior. |
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edbermac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. Wow, Tom Cruise is gonna go APESHIT over this! |
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Kokonoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Isn't all this about some German movie involving Tom Cruise |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well, they are dangerous nutters, much like neo-nazis. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Those Type of "Nutters" are Not Just Indigenous to Germany |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
71. Indeed. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #71 |
97. That's True |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:35 AM Response to Reply #71 |
112. With good reason |
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sss1977 (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. From the perspective of an atheist, that's a bad idea. |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
83. That's right... |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
24. Please ban Amway too. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
27. I Don't Agree with Banning Scientology However... |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
88. here is the report: |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
29. Deutschland Uber Crazyass Grifters |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. Why not ban Bilderberg? That would include Schaeuble . |
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DrDebug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 04:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
114. Because Bilderberg was founded by a German... |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. Scientology violates the rights of its "followers" and refuses to allow them to depart |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
125. Sound like Islam. Are they considered apostates? |
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unc70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
35. They were responsible for the first net "spam" |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
38. A real democracy would allow even movements that want to undermine it. |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. You have no idea how truly evil this group is. NT |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
85. And you know me... how? |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #38 |
84. Movements like National Socialism for example? |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Purely theoretically speaking: yes. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
98. You're confusing democracy with civil liberties. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
123. Tried that. Didn't work. |
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L1A1Rocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
40. I hope |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. Isn't it the same in France? It's considered a cult, so it's banned. |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. What are the goals of the Church of Scientology? |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. here are the goals of Scientology |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Actually, I just found a link, and its disturbing |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
91. hm, disturbing indeed |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Read the famous 1991 Time Magazine piece on "The Thriving Cult of Greed and Power" |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Goals of Scientology? |
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BadgerKid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. Here's why: Infringement of human rights |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. See my post #48 |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 04:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
79. the German "Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution" |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
92. Scientology SHOULD BE outlawed |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:21 AM Response to Reply #92 |
151. nonsense |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. Good riddance! |
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JMDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. I don't think we have to worry too much about the Scientologists reading this thread |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Cite? |
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flyingfysh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. most have to use a special filter provided by Scientology |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
64. I wish all cults were banned, everywhere. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Ban cults? Careful DU might fit "exclusive group sharing an esoteric, intellectual interests". |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
141. except, DUers can't agree on anything except our disapproval of G.W. Bush. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
69. wow. It didn't take long for the ethnic/racial slurs to break out here |
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western mass (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
75. "U.S. State Department regularly criticizes Germany... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
76. not really seeing a problem with this |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
80. GOOD n/t |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:17 AM Response to Original message |
81. Couldn't they say that of every "religion" and wouldn't |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
99. Banning cults is progressive |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. Banning a religion, just like in the good old days! |
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western mass (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. The Tony Soprano defense. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:16 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Then vigorously apply the laws that already exist against institutionalized thuggish behavior |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 03:41 AM Response to Reply #108 |
113. It isn't exactly banning the religion though |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #113 |
121. How can banning the religion not be banning the religion? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #121 |
133. Because it isn't a religion. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. It's recognized as a religion by the IRS |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. What is that definition, though? And just because the IRS |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #138 |
153. This is about government sanction against a religion, so the govt definition is quite relevant |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #153 |
154. no, Scientology is NOT treated as a religion under German tax codes n/t |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
105. Too bad other countries aren't following their example |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
115. Good-I hope they do the same here. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
116. A government too weak to prosecute the many abuses... |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
117. I once agreed to take the Scientology "test", but they wouldn't let me use their bathroom |
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Crayson (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
126. Got enough religions to abolish already... dont need new ones! |
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screennaame (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
127. just let people believe what they want |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
129. It is not a religion it is a well planned con game....good for Germany |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
135. Good. F*cking weirdos.... |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-11-07 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
140. Great move on Germany's part! |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
142. This discussion is so pathetic and absurd it makes me cringe |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. "Liberals, Greens, Leftists do NOT support this so-called "move" to ban Scientology." |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:06 AM Response to Reply #143 |
149. by reading the damn papers |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 04:21 AM Response to Reply #149 |
150. So, to clarify, you are saying that German liberals are against this? |
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reorg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 05:36 AM Response to Reply #150 |
152. against the useless attempt to make them illegal, yes |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-12-07 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
144. It's actually taking an entire NATION to rid itself of this cult --- !!! ???? |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-13-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
155. Sure, but... Did Operating Thetons invade Iraq? |
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