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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:10 PM Original message |
Climate change blamed as thousands of walruses die in stampedes |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Now the walruses? The walruses???? |
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Rene (758 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. What's the effect of the increase in ocean cruise liners and cargo ships....? |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. That is funny |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. 5-7 years until polar ice disappears in summer = extinction in the wildnerness |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Yes, these kinds of stories make me glad I don't have any children |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Me, too. It's sad enough and difficult enough discussing it with my |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Are they aware of Global Warming --- ?? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Very much so. Very socially and environmentally aware, and |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Here's the thing . . .. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
81. You and me both. I would have loved to have had kids, but I couldn't |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. About the only way to avoid this is if we 100% stopped carbon emissions today |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. The only way to do it is to nationalize oil and put all ELECTRIC CARS on the roads in 5 yrs.... |
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losthills (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Your thinking is right on target. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
49. And . . . |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. the EV-1 would have been the life saver...nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. That's . . . "Who Killed The Electric Car?" .. . right? GREAT MOVIE --- |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Nope... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. You know, FDR was going to nationalize our oil --- but he asked LBJ what he thought --- !!! |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
63. An electric F-150 or SUV...? Yeah, that ought to work. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
84. Yes, it would. |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. That link is for a Ranger, not an F-150. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. The difference is only a matter of size. Making a bigger motor is no problem... |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
64. I agree and will make one addendum on the time frame. Three years |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Wow!! Someone ahead of me --- and I agree on the time .... |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. We have to suck the carbon out of the atmosphere... |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. One estimate says we have to remove 350 gigatons of carbon... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
74. There was a lot of talk in Britian about petro and airplanes . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #27 |
76. Gigaton = 1 BILLION TONS --- |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Yup. That's a lot of carbon |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
73. Obviously, even up to just 1957, we had already created an immense problem . . . |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Yeah . . . but look at all we've gotten for that trade off of nature --- !!! |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Driving our cars whenever we want, going wherever we want, |
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wundermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Global Warming "Tipping Points" Reached, Scientist Says |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sigh. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. ahhh poor things. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R. (nt) |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. This is just heartbreaking... |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Yup, looks like Soylent Green was the most prescient dystopian prediction in cinema |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Get used to it -- this is just the beginning |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Here's a mantra we should chant from someone who cared: |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. We're all walruses... |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. K&R :-(.nt |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
12. What can I say... |
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Platypus' went extinct? |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Platypus extinct? Er, not so much... |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
33. Platypus, Platypi... It doesn't matter... I total understand your |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 05:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
59. I stand corrected... |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. very sad |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
18. My girlfriend's family lives North of the Circle (Norway) |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Tom - Can you write the stories down & post them? |
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TomInTib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I will try to get Torrild to write some of them. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. She could talk and you could type - or - videotape her telling her stories |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. We lost seven years on the future of the walruses and us because |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. We need photos - that's the only way to communicate with the non-reading |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I agree. |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
26. Very disheartening |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. I just rented and watched "Arctic Tale" from Blockbuster tonight... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:52 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. Was that recently in movie theaters --- ? |
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Mr_Jefferson_24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. It probably was... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
77. Thanks -- I probably go to two movies a year --- sometimes one if there's no MM movie!!! |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. The Fucking Horror of it |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. NONE... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. Yes, it is us -- however, people knew about this when JF K was president . . . |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. We're hooked on oil man...We're hooked on oil man... |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
35. We have to constuct giant floats for them to rest. It's the only thing to do, right? |
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NYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Sounds like an excellent idea. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:57 AM Response to Reply #35 |
53. It's so obvious what you're saying . . . yet, is anyone even trying to help them? |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
43. Farewell, Goo-Goo-Gajoob.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:57 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. There's a sociopath if I ever saw one --- |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-14-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. I was debating a conservative today |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. On the plus side... |
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Kool Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Isn't it bad enough that |
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danhan (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The problem |
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ihavenobias (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 02:18 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. We're all gonna die crap? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:02 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. What Gore needs to do is suggest we nationalize oil and put all ELECTRIC CARS on our roads --- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 04:03 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. What Gore needs to do is suggest we nationalize oil and put all ELECTRIC CARS on our roads --- !! |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. electric cars run on nationalized oil ? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #68 |
78. How about nationalizing ALL our natural resources and taking them back from the few who profit? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. No, volcanic carbon dioxide is dwarfed by human emissions |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. Not only that, but volcanic dust and soot usuually COOLS the atmosphere |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
86. I can see why you "choose not to engage so much" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 03:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. What it takes to get the news to them that their not-man-made issue is dead is hard to figure!!! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
82. That's the kind of B.S. you get from anyone who doesn't want to |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
67. (meanwhile) Passenger jet lands on ice runway in Antarctica |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-15-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Santa's relocating before his workshop melts into the sea. n/t |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 04:18 AM Response to Original message |
79. So WHO is going to push for net NEGATIVE CO2 emissions???? |
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humus (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-16-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
83. Bring It All Back Home |
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Rosie1223 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
88. 'Walrus' and 'Stampede' -- 2 words I never thought I'd hear in the same sentence. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
89. Kicked, too late to recommend. |
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