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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:45 PM
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October Home Prices Post Record Decline
Source: Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. home prices fell in October for the 10th consecutive month, posting their largest monthly drop since early 1991, a widely watched index showed on Wednesday.

The record 6.7 percent drop in the Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller home price index also marked the 23rd consecutive month prices either grew more slowly or declined.

"No matter how you look at these data, it is obvious that the current state of the single-family housing market remains grim," said Robert Shiller, who helped create the index, in a statement.

The previous record decline was 6.3 percent, recorded in April 1991. The S&P/Case-Shiller home price index tracks prices of existing single-family homes in 10 metropolitan areas compared to a year earlier.

A broader index of 20 metropolitan areas fell 6.1 percent. Among the 20 metropolitan areas used in the broader index, 11 posted record monthly declines and all 20 declined in October compared to September.



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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:49 PM
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1. a friend of mine has a house
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 12:50 PM by CountAllVotes
It was valued at $750,000.00 about 6 months ago. Today it is valued at just over $600,000.00. This adds up to a loss of $150,000.00 or ~20%.

That is quite the drop I'd say.

Too bad my friend decided to refinance with an ARM before they lost their job.

:kick:

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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:51 PM
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3. NOT BAD FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE
INFLATED BY GREED
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:53 PM
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5. I won't disagree with you
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 01:40 PM by CountAllVotes
said house was worth about $120,000.00 before it suddenly became worth $750,000.00. The house has been improved some, but certainly not over $600,000.00 worth of "upgrades". I have :nopity: for this idiot.

:kick:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:07 PM
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8. Haven't seen an overblown, greed-driven bubble like this since
the late-Clinton years tech "dot-con" fiasco.

It's the same thing, but with different assets.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:26 PM
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12. Iknow several people who lost their pants in the dot com thing-ee
And then went bonkers with joy over the possibility of making their lost money back in the housing market.

You'd think they would have recognized certain slogans: "A new economy" "No way this market will ever go down" "The sky's the limit" "Get in today at these high prices or you will NEVER be able to get in"

etc.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:39 PM
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13. Tangible Assets, At That
And as long as a buyer can make those payments, eventually they'll be okay - unless they were planning on selling a home quickly and pocketing the difference.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:49 PM
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2. "The republicon economic surge is, um, working. Smirk." - Commander AW
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 12:52 PM by SpiralHawk
"Properity is just around the - smirk - corner. A rising tide lifts all yachts. I mean, ask yourself, would a republicon lie to you? Smirk."

- Commander AWOL

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:52 PM
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4. "The previous record decline was 6.3 percent, recorded in April 1991."
How appropriate. Bush I was president.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:02 PM
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6. Meh...cry me a freaking river
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 01:03 PM by YOY
They'll continue to go down until people can afford the damn things.

Some clown tried pushing his two bed/two bath on my wife after she stopped for a pamphlet on the "For Sale" sign. The price was $630,000 for South Arlington, VA. My wife politely told him that no matter how renovated the place was at that cost it better have hot and cold gold bullion coming out of the spigots.

Love that woman...

Until the prices go down to where the median income can afford it, I have no damn pity save the little I can squeeze out for those folks who got hoodwinked into an ARM and are in foreclosure...and even they should have read the fine print as well so it's not that much pity at all.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:04 PM
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7. Grim? Or positive depending on which side of the ownership fence you are on.
I'm rather pleased prices are dropping and are rooting for more decline!
Housing prices are still overinflated.
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 03:28 PM
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10. Ya nailed it...
After 14 years in a trailer living below our means and paying off debt, the wife and I bought our first house this summer - we got quite a steal.

The slump is great if you've been laying low waiting for the best time to buy. On the other hand, fools they may be, I still feel sorry for all those suckered into bad situations. Families on the street benefit no one.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:57 PM
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11. Be careful what you wish for...
Regardless of who you blame (and I personally have no sympathy for people who got into mortgages they couldn't really afford, whether through greed or carelessness or both), the decline will hit everybody, buyers and sellers alike, as lower home prices start to translate into reduced tax assessments and a smaller overall tax base for schools and other local government functions. Teacher's salaries frozen? Potholes not being repaired? City park poorly maintained? Library hours cut? Look to your shrinking tax base. And even if you say that these things are already bad where you are, they will only get worse. The effects will spread through the entire economy, so be ready for rougher times ahead.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:46 PM
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14. Deflation Will Make It Better
Every dollar will increase in purchasing value :sarcasm:
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:22 PM
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15. So true
when Ron Paul gets elected president and puts us back on the gold standard, it'll be just like the good old days...
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:33 PM
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16. F*** Ron Paul and any other Pub...their s*** doesn't and has never worked.
n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:52 PM
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9. Conservative Economics (nt)
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