(Hillary) Clinton says she would tear up blank check for war

[sabra]

Source: desmoines register

Lawton, Ia. — Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton would let Iraqi leaders know she’s torn up the “blank check” and that the war-torn country must guide its own future, she said this morning.

“The Iraqis have not done what they had to do. So when I am president, the Iraqis will know they don’t any longer have a blank check from George Bush. I’ve torn that up. They’ve got to take responsibility to solve their own problems,” Clinton told an audience of about 300 at a school in Lawton.

She added: “We will help them. We will push them. We will try to give them the support they need to do it, but they are the only ones who can determine their future.”

Clinton, a Democrat who represents New York in the U.S. Senate, repeated her vow that she would ask her security advisers “on day one” for a plan for the safe and orderly withdrawal of the troops in Iraq.

“I’m committed to starting within 60 days,” Clinton said. “I think we can get out one to two brigades a month.”

Read more: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071227/NEWS/71227011/1001/NEWS

[Demeter]

1. Check Returned for Insufficient Funds

No big deal.

[bullimiami]

2. blame it on the iraqis? bullshit. its noones fault but ours.

the us has directly created the situation as it stands. there is no other power that can stand against it or be blamed.

[Pastiche423]

26. Hey!

that's her "out". She has to blame someone for her vote! Din't you know the Iraqis wanted her to vote the way she did. Now that she helped get *'s war on, the Iraqis are ungrateful.

It's the Iraqis fault that our government invaded their country, annihilated their infrastructure, killed hundreds of thousands of their fellow citizens and destroyed their economy.

And now they won't standup and run their government?

:sarcasm:

[wuushew]

3. If she tore up the check why was hasn't she repealed the IWR?

She is on the record saying that would be repealed October 2007?

[Robbien]

4. Only if elected, otherwise look elsewhere if one wants troops home

Don't dare lift a finger to do anything now. Keep the guys in harm's way, it is good for campaign slogans.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

5. I'm always cautious when I hear the "no more blank check" rhetoric. Maybe she needs new buzz words.

Pelosi vows no 'blank check' on Iraq funds
Wants Bush to justify use of additional troops

By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | January 8, 2007



http://boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/01/08/pelosi_vows_no_blank_check_on_iraq_funds/

WASHINGTON -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said yesterday that Democrats would not give President Bush a "blank check" to continue the war in Iraq, and suggested that Democratic leaders may seek to deny the administration funding to send more troops to Iraq.

Pelosi, a California Democrat, repeatedly rejected suggestions that Democrats would cut off funding for the war, a step being urged by many liberal activists. But if the president wants a surge in US troops in Iraq -- a step he is expected to outline this week -- Democrats might move to stop him from using any new funds for that purpose, she said.

"If the president chooses to escalate the war, in his budget request we want to see a distinction between what is there to support the troops who are there now," Pelosi said on CBS's "Face the Nation."

"The American people and the Congress support those troops," she added. "But if the president wants to add to this mission, he is going to have to justify it. And this is new for him, because up until now the Republican Congress has given him a blank check with no oversight, no standards, no conditions."

[Kashka-Kat]

6. "Not done what they're supposed to do?" What exactly are they "supposed to do"?

Agree to oil laws as desired by multinational corps? Agree to US occupation for the next 50 yrs (until said oil wells are depleted)? Agree to 14 permanent US military bases on their soil?

What exactly are they "supposed to do"? Woman speak with forked tongue.

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. they were supposed to work on a political end to his war.

I cannot get over the memory loss here on DU!

Time and again, everyone said they only need a few more months to get their political house in order and than the troops can leave. But they did nothing politically but take two months off cause it was hot outside (of course our troops did not get two months off).

[Gidney N Cloyd]

7. Somehow I suspect the Iraqi's haven't been getting the lion's share of that blank check.

Call it a hunch.

[sentelle]

8. Why'd she vote for the blank check

if all she's gonna do is tear it up when/if she becomes president?

[laconicsax]

13. If she hadn't voted to give * the

blank check in the first place, she couldn't promise to tear it up. It's pretty simple really--vote to continue the war to avoid being attacked as a 'soft on defense' and pledge to end the war to avoid being attacked as pro-war.

[saskatoon]

27. Hillary

Hillary is full of shit, she talks as the wind blows. She is a phony!

[defendandprotect]

9. Shouldn't Hillary be saying that to Halliburton, Blackwater -- ?

How about addressing a return of women's rights in Iraq -- ?
Separation of Church & Sate --- ?
Ending corruption of the war machine --- ?
Actually rebuilding the infastructure that we bombed out from under Iraqis years ago--?

This is meaningless chatter ---


AND, it is HRC votes which took us to this horrid place we're at now ---
and her votes to refund --- !!!

Shallow, dishonest remarks ---

[Brrrp]

10. Every once in a while, she has to "make nice" to the left. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

19. Note to Hillrary Camp:

We're on to you, hon. Been on to you for quite sometime. Good luck in winning that election without us (progressives).

[maxsolomon]

24. which election?

primary or general?

cuz this progressive will vote for her in the general - the alternative is what? huckabee?

and so goes the course of our great democracy - the choice between 5 & 6 on a scale of 1 to 10.

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[cali]

28. bwahaha.

I love the absolutist mindset. It's richly amusing- no matter who engages in it; you or your kindred spirit, bushie.

:rofl:

[Le Taz Hot]

30. Ok, that last line didn't even make any sense.

Are you saying Bush likes progressives? :crazy: And how can you possibly know my mindset? I don't recall us ever spending time together. How absurd.

[LostinVA]

34. I am a Progressive, and I've not a Democrat

Never have been.

[maxsolomon]

36. i said IN THE GENERAL

in the absence of a progressive choice (kucinich will not be the democratic nominee, sorry to break it to you), does a progressive prefer to be ruled by hillary or huckabee?

in Washington State, you have to choose a party to vote in the primary. so i did. that's the depth of my party membership. would you prefer to have no say whatsoever in the primaries because you don't want to be a "democrat"?

yet you post on DemocraticUnderground...

[HughBeaumont]

38. "Ruled"?

You know, because who WOULDN'T be overjoyed with those terms??

Has she won anything yet?

[HughBeaumont]

33. .

[maxsolomon]

35. well, yes.

that's the dilemma, isn't it?

i've held my nose & voted for the democrat in every presidential election since i could vote.

someone please point out how NOT voting for hillary in the general would stop the war.

[HughBeaumont]

37. Well, by all means, if our party is so freak-spankity confident that any one of our candidates

. . . can defeat the Republican candidate, then there shouldn't be any problem, should there?

You know, unless there's some lingering ambivelance and DOUBT about a certain one.

In which case, we'd better choose WISELY in our primaries. You think?

[JackORoses]

11. oh she'll tear it up, just not til 2013, maybe

[Malva Zebrina]

12. The fact is that she handed over a blank check to Bush

and gave him permission to cash it, co signed by her. Now she is trying to say she renegs on it? This is typical Hillary Clinton. Typical. I have had enough of this bait and switch politics from Bush and from the
Clintons. We have reached 3,900 American troops dead and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi innocent human beings that she voted to give a death penalty to on lies,and now she says she would withdraw the check? Keep it up Hillary. You will be as hated as George Bush is and it is your fault for voting for it and refusing to recognize your vote was wrong.
This is just disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Almost as disgusting as Bill Clinton's lie, saying he was against the war.

[nebula]

14. You have done exactly the opposite, Hillary

you handed him the blank check in the first place and you continue to do so.

your words and empty promises are utterly worthless.

[saigon68]

16. You bet

A lot of them did that

Russ (My Senator) didn't

[Jacobin]

39. You are right

More empty words

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[fascisthunter]

18. Iraqis Have no Legitimate Power in Their Own Country

WTF is wrong with her?!?!?!?! Are folks in DC living in a bubble of BS or what?

PS - WTF is wrong with Hartmann? What does he possibly see in her. I don't get it.

[Roland99]

20. And replace it with an American Depressed card

But at least she'll get Frequent Liar points.

[pinniped]

21. Ya, but is she gonna tell this to the war hawks over here?

Lawton, Ia. — Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton would let Iraqi leaders know she’s torn up the “blank check” and that the war-torn

I think this blank check goes directly into offshore accounts of Merkan companies.

[DemKR]

22. revoke IWR!

[MadHound]

23. Then why has she continued to issue blank checks concerning the war?

Hell, I think that there is only one war funding bill that she hasn't voted for, so why the hell aren't her actions matching her words?

Oh, yeah, she's trying to pander to the anti-war left while remaining a committed war monger:puke:

[Doctor_J]

29. The blank check she signed?

or a different one :shrug:

[sarcasmo]

31. Bookmarked, because she is talking so much SHIT.

[JVS]

32. Ah, so she admits that a blank check has been given!

[Countdown_3_2_1]

40. Talk is cheap. DO SOMETHING NOW!!!

This chick is a senator. I have seen her cave in too many times.

--> Am I really expected to trust her enough to believe that "if elected," she will end the war? She has the power to do that now.

[humbled_opinion]

41. Sure she'll steal the oil....

no doubt... No more Clintons in the WH... Its time for real change.