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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:26 PM
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Edwards backer reports gift of $495K
Source: LA Times

An independent group supporting his Iowa campaign received the donation from philanthropist Rachel Mellon, who is in her mid-90s.

By Dan Morain

DES MOINES -- The investment account of philanthropist Rachel L. Mellon has given $495,000 to an independent group that is backing Democrat John Edwards' presidential bid.

The donation, which was disclosed in a Federal Election Commission filing Friday, comes as Edwards and rival Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois have been sniping at each other over just such outside spending.

An aide to Obama called the $495,000 gift from Mellon, who is in her mid-90s, "questionable," and Edwards repeated his view that independent advocacy groups should be banned.

The donation came from Oak Spring Farms LLC, the New York entity that holds Mellon's pharmaceutical and banking fortune.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-mellon29dec29,1,1616686.story?coll=la-politics-campaign
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:30 PM
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1. oprah-bama aide: rich women should not provide $$ to help democratic candidates? ha ha
calling Oprah - say how much in-trade is oprah's endorsement worth in financial terms?
Let's see obama give us that financial information.

Msongs
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:37 PM
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2. Edwards is a phoney. ..n/t
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:41 PM
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4. Prove it.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:45 PM
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5. and that is just plain Baloney...
Edwards has an awesome message if you would take the time and listen but then most Clinton Robots already have made up their mind and can find no wrong with her and problems with all the other candidates... Let me just say if you support Clinton you are a fool, she is Bush light and the Repukes hate her more then we hate Bush.. If she happens to get the nomination the Jesus Freaks will be out in force to stir the base to defeat her and believe me once the Holier then Thou's get riled up you can say goodbye to any chance at a Democrat in the WH in 08...

Now Edwards nor Obama stir that kind of hatred in the GOP most kind of just shrug and aren't compelled to do something about them...
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 06:48 PM
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26. I hate Hillary, Edwards and I'm not crazy about Obama....
...Our corporate owned media isn't talking much about the candidates who aren't corporate puppets.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 10:37 PM
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7. I told you that Hillary supporters
would start their attacks on Edwards-they are scumbags
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:07 AM
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10. Scumbags? It's a primary. We're all on the same team. Act like it.
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 12:08 AM by Political Heretic
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:20 AM
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16. scumbags is a bit harsh
Try, mindless bootlicking corporate whores willing to sell their neighbors and their party down the river for AIPAC and the DLC. :)
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:15 PM
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32. Aren't you the one who wants Clinton supporters kicked off of DU?
I notice you don't have a star by your name.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 11:01 PM
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9. Oooo. Good one. nt
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:22 AM
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14. you're entitled to your opinion - but that is not true
when did you meet him and what did he say?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 03:09 PM
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31. You are exactly right
The proof is there for anyone that will open their eyes to see. His voting record is almost night and day compared to the rhetoric he's spewing now.

When I post some of his votes, I hear, but he's changed! Sure the DLCer has changed his rhetoric, because he's running for president............. again.

Not one single person can tell me what he has done, they only listen to what he says.

Hypocrisy much?
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 09:38 PM
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3. HMMMMM...and Oprah is
worth how much? I wonder how much 'intangible' donations she has given to Obama? Again, just tryin' to slam Edwards....good luck.

Again, he is so clean, the repukes are going to do whatever they can to slam him in any way they can and if it means attempting to pit Obama and Edwards against each other, then they will using whatever means they can.

Let's not forget how quick they were to jump on the Hussein crap about Obama.

Notice they haven't said a damn word about HRC - they know they can beat her, even with Hucklebee.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 10:04 PM
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6. all I can say is get over it
as long as its legal, why not use it

crap like this alleged outrage just might make me vote for Edwards after all


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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 10:40 PM
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8. I hope these guys can be friends sometime soon.
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:54 AM
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11. Umm... It is an INDEPENDENT group...
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 03:58 AM by Morereason
Edwards has no control over who gives or what they do. To criticize this as a fault of Edwards is disingenious.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 06:19 AM
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13. Well I hope we won't be hypocritical when the Repubs do this to us.
I can complain because I don't support it. You can't.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 06:17 AM
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12. Whats the point of campaign finance laws if you can give
huge was of $ to entities supporting a candidate anyways?

I'm okay with issue oriented groups, but if a groups only purpose is to support a particular candidate?

This doesn't seem right to me.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 12:25 PM
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25. She is in her 90's
I'd look close to see if she is in her right mind just to be sure. That is an awful lot of money. If so then cool.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 05:37 PM
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33. Her lawyer
Her lawyer, the guy with power of attorney over her assets, is a major Edwards fundraiser.

Something doesn't pass the smell test.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:15 AM
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15. Trial Lawyer Lobby, Big Pharma, Big Banking buys Edwards.
He's not worth the money they're spending to buy him.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:17 AM
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19. evidence of Big Pharma and Big Banking contributing to Edwards?
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 11:21 AM by spooky3
Other than Mellon, who is supporting the 527 as a retired individual who probably likes what Edwards is trying to do for the country, what links do you have that show the pharm. companies in particular support him, when his health care proposals will reduce their profits?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:20 AM
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20. The $495,000 in the OP "doesn't count"?
Only to an Edwards apologist.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:23 AM
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21. She is an individual who is retired, not an executive who controls
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 11:26 AM by spooky3
any large corporation, let alone an industry. She is a philanthropist, an heir who married another heir, lucky for her, and a friend of the Kennedy's. What evidence do you have that she was ever involved in managing any corporation?

Put together a list of Pfizer, Lilly, Schering, etc. contributions that show consistent support for Edwards over other candidates, and you have a case.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:24 AM
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22. Can you post that Edwards Inc. email you're cut&pasting the talking points from?
Link?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:27 AM
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23. I am not cutting and pasting from anything. Google Rachel L. Mellon
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 11:36 AM by spooky3
or Yahoo! search it, and you'll find the same information.

And not too many women in their 90s in this country ever ran any corporation, by the way, thanks to years of discrimination. So she no more represents the corporate stances and interests of Big Pharma or Big Banking than our grandmothers did.

Here's a start for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Lambert_Lloyd
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 11:32 AM
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:14 PM
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27. Got to love that 'philanthropy'
Edited on Sun Dec-30-07 10:32 PM by stillcool47
From the "Rich and the Super-rich"....by Ferdinand Lundberg copyright 1968...available for free down-load due to it's copyright expiration from The Soil and Health Library
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/0303socialcriticism.html
INHERITED WEALTH-HOLDERS, 1957

Stated Net
Worth in Financial Age in Living
millions Activity 1957 Schooling Children

1. J. Paul Getty $700-$1,000 Executive 65 Oxford (B.A.) 5
London Getty Oil Co.
2. Mrs. Mellon Bruce $400-$700 Rentier
(Ailsa Mellon)
New York
3. Paul Mellon $400-$700 Director 50 Yale (A.B.) 2
Upperville, Virginia Mellon National Bank, Cambridge (A.B.)
etc.
4. Richard K. Mellon $400-$700 Executive 58 Attended 4
Pittsburgh Alcoa, Princeton
Gulf Oil, etc.
5. Mrs. Alan M. Scaife* $400-$700 Rentier 54 2
(Sarah Mellon)
(Died, 1965)

The Mellons

Four leading Mellons on the Fortune list are given a minimal combined worth of $1.6 billion and a maximum of $2.8 billion. As market values up to this writing have risen sharply, these figures now embody considerable understatement.

The Mellons are another close family group, with holdings concentrated as shown in the TNEC study in a broad group of leading companies: Aluminum Corporation of America, Gulf Oil Company, the Allis-Chalmers Manufacturing Company, the Bethlehem Steel Corporation, the General American Transportation Corporation, Jones and Laughlin Steel Corporation, Koppers United Company, Lone Star Gas Corporation, Niagara Hudson Power Corporation, Pittsburgh Coal Company, Pittsburgh Plate Glass Company, The Virginian Railway Company, Westinghouse Electric and Manufacturing Company and various others. Of this group the Mellons controlled Aluminum Corporation, Koppers United and Gulf Oil. Five Mellons held these interests directly and through two family holding companies, three closely held insurance and securities companies, six trust funds, one estate and one foundation. 34

In Aluminum Corporation common stock the Mellons held 33.85 per cent; in the contingent voting preferred stock the family and its foundation held 24.98 per cent. In Gulf Oil Company the Mellon family and its personal companies owned 70.24 per cent of the common stock, an unusually large single family stake in so large an enterprise. The Mellons held 52.42 per cent of the common stock of Koppers United and 1.52 per cent of the contingent voting preferred. 35

Applying the TNEC percentages of ownership at closing 1964 market prices the value of the Mellon holdings in the three leading companies alone would be:

7,127,725 shares of Aluminum Company common
(33 per cent of outstanding 21,413,177 shares)
at 61-1/2 $438,970,087

164,477 shares Aluminum Company
preferred (25 per cent of outstanding
659,909 shares) at median price
of 85-1/2 (1964 price range 83-88) $9,128,468

72,579,487 shares Gulf Oil Corporation
(70 per cent of outstanding 103,684,981
shares) at 58-5/8 $4,254,972,426

1,166,567 common shares Koppers (52-1/2 per cent
of 2,222,032 outstanding shares) at 55-3/8 $64,599,968

Other companies ?
_______________
Total $4,767,669,949

This computation is made without considering the Mellon holding in the Mellon National Bank of Pittsburgh, not included in the TNEC study, and in various other banks and in many companies with Mellon participation as reported in the TNEC study. But although the preceding table shows the pattern of the family holdings in general, there have been shifts in Mellon holdings since the TNEC study, notably through the establishment of a series of foundations in the 1940's.

These foundations, whose holdings should not be necessarily considered as additions to those already indicated, are as follows:

Date Founded 1962 Assets

The A. W. Mellon Educational and 1930 $24,197,042
Charitable Trust
(included in TNEC study)
Avalon Foundation, N.Y. 1940 $99,182,784
(Mrs. Ailsa Mellon Bruce)
Sarah Mellon Scaife Foundation 1941 $20,098,157
Old Dominion Foundation, N.Y. 1941 $65,082,139
(Paul Mellon)
Bollingen Foundation, N.Y. 1945 $6,013,881
(Paul Mellon)
The (Richard K.) Mellon Foundation 1947 $82,028,250
The (Matthew T.) Mellon Foundation 1946 $160,775
(as of 1960)
____________
Foundation Total $296,763,028

Although the income and any capital distribution from these foundations must be used for legally prescribed public purposes, the capital investments, as long as they remain undistributed, represent Mellon voting power in industry. But the foundations established since 1940 do not, as comparison with the first tabulation shows, diminish by much the personal Mellon holdings of today when computed according to the TNEC pattern. The family, all lovers of the old-time capitalism will be cheered to note, does not appear to be dissipating its fortune in riotous charity.


Andrew Mellon (1855-1937) was himself an inheritor, the son of Thomas Mellon, a rich Pittsburgh private banker and the pre-Civil War Horatio Alger source of the family fortune. From his father's bank Andrew and his brother, Richard B., began branching out and initially acquired a commercial bank and an insurance company. It was a small beginning, with far greater deeds of financial derring-do to come.

The first really big Mellon opportunity came, however, when two metallurgists told Andrew in 1989 of a successful new process for smelting aluminum discovered by Charles M. Hall. In return for $250,000 credit with T. Mellon & Sons, the Pittsburgh Reduction Company, owner of the process, gave Mellon control of the company. it was common at the time for banks to demand a "piece of the action" in any promising enterprise that applied for loans, which is how Mellon and other bankers turned up with toothsome participations in so many burgeoning enterprises. 36 For these participations in many if not most cases, they paid nothing whatever but sat in their money-nets like intent spiders and let the flies walk in one by one.

The Mellon participation in Gulf Oil came about similarly. Anthony F. Luchich, a Yugoslav prospector, brought in the great Spindletop gusher in Texas in 1901, which quickly led to more oil than all the Pennsylvania fields had since 1859. Money was now needed to handle the flow and build pipelines, and Pittsburgh interests were appealed to. Among these were William Larimer Mellon, nephew of Andrew and himself an heir of Thomas Mellon. In the upshot there was formed the J. M. Gulley Petroleum Company, capitalized at $15 million. Andrew W. Mellon bought the prospector's interest for $400,000 and altogether put $4.5 million into the new company, of which Colonel J. M. Guffey, who had an interest in the Spindletop lease, was given the presidency, $1 million and a promise of $500,000 from future dividends. Andrew W. Mellon and his brother, Richard B., took 40 per cent of the stock and sold 60 per cent to six Pittsburgh capitalists. 37 Guffey Petroleum soon was renamed Gulf Oil. Guffey himself was dropped.

Mellon utilized the same technique again and again with other entrepreneurs who came to him for the means necessary to launch or tide over their enterprises.

The Aluminum Company was eventually judicially designated a monopoly but not until it had enjoyed a long charmed life. It repulsed a number of private suits under the Sherman Act early in the century and on a few occasions outmaneuvered the Federal Trade Commission, which could not prove its bone-deep belief that the company was engaging in unfair competition. In 1912, however, the Aluminum Company consented to a practically meaningless decree in an action brought by an unenthusiastic Department of Justice charging unfair trade practices.

Again in 1937 the Department of justice brought suit, holding that the company held a 90 per cent monopoly. In 1945 the United States Court of Appeals, Second Circuit, concluded that the company indeed held prewar monopoly control of ingot production. But the court did not force the company to dispose of any plants pending disposition of government aluminummaking facilities built in wartime 1942-45.

During the war, with aluminum in short supply, Reynolds Metals Company with government encouragement began primary production, the first competitor in the field since 1893. After the war the government, bypassing Aluminum Company, offered its plants to 224 different companies--some of them large--and strangely found no buyers. Surplus Property Administrator W. Stuart Symington then accused Aluminum Company of blocking the surplus plant sale by its patent control. After denying this, Alcoa relinquished to the government its many patents, gobbled up during the years, thus throwing them open to free licensing.

Reynolds Metals now bought or leased various of the government plants created around these patents. Kaiser Aluminum, formed for the purpose, took over other government-built plants. Since then the Anaconda Copper Company and Revere Copper and Brass, Inc., have entered the lucrative field, with still others likely to come. The long Mellon monopoly in aluminum was finally broken, but not before the Mellons made millions from it. And the country is now for the first time well supplied with aluminum.

Who are the Mellons today? There are Paul Mellon, son of Andrew Mellon, director of the Mellon National Bank and various Mellon funds; his children, Timothy and Catherine Conover (Mrs. John W. Warner); Richard King Mellon, Jr., son of Richard Beatty Mellon, nephew of Andrew, director and officer of various leading Mellon enterprises; his children, Richard, Cassandra, Constance and Seward; Ailsa Mellon (Mrs. Mellon Bruce), daughter of Andrew and mother of Audrey Mellon Bruce; Sarah Mellon (Mrs. Alan M. Scaife, died 1965), daughter of Richard Beatty Mellon and mother of Richard Mellon Scaife, who is a director of the Mellon National Bank and of various Mellon funds and trusts; William Larimer Mellon, M.D., and others. By no means as numerous as the Du Ponts, the Mellons nevertheless constitute more than the glittering quartet named by Fortune.



Richard Mellon Scaife has been a key figure in conservative politics since the 1960s. Called by liberal pundit James Carville in 1999 “the archconservative godfather in heavily funded war against ,” Scaife has helped bankroll the modern conservative movement. The Scaife Foundations include the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Carthage Foundation, and the Allegheny Foundation. Financing for these foundations is largely drawn from the oil and banking holdings of the Mellon family. Scaife’s personal fortune is estimated by Forbes to be around $800 million. (13)

According to a 1999 Washington Post report, Scaife’s funding work has been central to the success of the conservative agenda in recent years:

Scaife and his family’s charitable entities have given at least $340 million to conservative causes and institutions—about $620 million in current dollars, adjusted for inflation. The total of Scaife’s giving—to conservatives as well as many other beneficiaries—exceeds $600 million, or $1.4 billion in current dollars, much more than any previous estimate.

In the world of big-time philanthropy, there are many bigger givers. The Ford Foundation gave away $491 million in 1998 alone. But by concentrating his giving on a specific ideological objective for nearly 40 years, and making most of his grants with no strings attached, Scaife’s philanthropy has had a disproportionate impact on the rise of the right, perhaps the biggest story in American politics in the last quarter of the 20th century.

Whenever the conservative right attacks programs that help working people like Truddy Lowe, listen for the sound of a cash register.

According to a recent report from People for the American Way called "Buying A Movement: Right-Wing Foundations and American Politics," there's a well-organized conservative money machine financing far-right ideas that hurt working families in general and public employees in particular.


The money comes from five big foundations:

The Bradley Foundation,
The Coors Foundation
The Koch Family Foundation
The Olin Foundation
The Scaife Family Foundations have given over $200 million in recent years to right-wing causes. The foundations were created by Richard Mellon Scaife, a member of the Mellon banking and oil family. University of Massachusetts professor Thomas Ferguson credits Scaife as having "as much to do with the Gingrich revolution as Gingrich himself."
http://www.afscme.org/publications/8667.cfm?print=1

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:16 PM
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28. They're buying WHO? Let's look:



Looks like they're buying Hillary and Obama, mostly.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 04:57 AM
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29. Yeah, those 97-year-old women who are running the show on Wall Street and in the Beltway
Glad we have you to point out that it's Great-Grandma who's the real culprit in today's Corporate America.

:eyes: :eyes:


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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:06 PM
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34. and you have links to back up this bloviation?
Wasn't it Michael Moore who stated that HILLARY had received the 2nd highest amount from the Medical Community?

Back up the wind with some PROOF that Edwards is aligned with any of them.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:25 AM
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17. See! His taking matching funds isn't going to be a problem.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 10:31 AM
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18. yes it will. 527s cannot coordinate with the campaign and they
can't run candidate ads- in other words they can't openly advocate for a candidate Beyond that, candidates who accept matching funds are limited to spending $50,000,000 until after the convention. Edwards has spent over $25,000,000 to date. That leaves him with only $25,000,000 to spend between now and the end of August. The repuke candidate, will likely be someone who can spend hundreds of millions of dollars framing Edwards. He'll have a tough time fighting back.
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whatdoyouthink Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 01:11 PM
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30. He will have enough
To run...There are Unions behind him, there are those (sic) 527 groups out there (that know one can control) , and what to stop? Me / You or anyone else from going door to door / making phone calls / or posting on forms like this.

I think we would be a sale out - at who has the most money? if that what it come to - then I will quit now and move out of this country!

BTW - the re pug's are not doing that great - on raising money (except Ron P, and maybe Rommeee - loaning himself money)

And don't forget - allot of events (Such as) can be linked with other (s) running for congress / Senate.
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