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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:34 PM
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Two U.S. F/A-18s crash in (Arabian) Gulf, no fatalities
Source: Reuters

MANAMA, Jan 7 (Reuters) - The U.S. Navy's Fifth Fleet said two F/A-18 fighter aircraft crashed during operations in the Gulf on Monday but there were no fatalities. "Teams from USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) rescued all three aviators after two F/A-18 Super Hornets crashed during operations in the Arabian Gulf Jan. 7," it said in a statement. "The cause of the accident is under investigation."

The Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet said the aircraft crews were back aboard the aircraft carrier and are reported to be in good condition following an ejection. The aircraft were providing close air support from Iraq when they crashed, it said. (Gulf newsroom)

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L07331089.htm
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:36 PM
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1. rescued all three aviators
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 02:53 PM by endarkenment
I'm sure there is a simple explanation but, did each f-18 have 1.5 aviators?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:49 PM
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5. your right
each plane can seat two

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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:24 PM
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10. Super Hornet is a 2-seater. Legacy Hornet is a 1-seater
That's probably what happened. One single seat Hornet and one 2-seat Hornet.

Would explain the 3 aviators.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:27 PM
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14. Super Hornets
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:41 PM
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2. The US Navy (Bahrain-based Fifth Fleet???) seems to be having a bad couple of days in the Gulf.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:43 PM
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3. seems like there's also a sailor missing?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:02 PM
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7. Well, then, I think they should just come home and take a nap.
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 02:48 PM
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4. wierd....two crashed at the same time?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:04 PM
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8. I assumed this meant they clipped wings or something
But you are right, the story doesn't give any indication of whether this was one incident or two.
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nbcouch Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:01 PM
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6. Is this about to be blamed on the Iranians? n/t
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:22 PM
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11. my question too!
:scared:
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RuleOfNah Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:15 PM
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13. Tonkin airshow?
Maybe the planes were scheduled for the floating boxes in the news show? Perhaps "how could Iran shoot them down" came up too frequently in the test audience debriefings so the spin was scrapped?
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:12 PM
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9. We are here to help
said the Iranian boat capt.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:02 PM
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12. this one says, midair collision
WASHINGTON - Two U.S. Navy fighter jets plunged into the Persian Gulf Monday after a mid-air collision, but all three pilots were rescued safely, a top Navy commander said Monday.

Navy Vice Adm. Kevin J. Cosgriff told reporters that the three pilots have been brought back to the USS Harry Truman, the aircraft carrier they were operating from, and are in good condition. Cosgriff, who is commander of the Navy's 5th Fleet, which is based in Bahrain, said the pilots were undergoing medical checks.

According to the Navy, teams from the Truman rescued the three aviators who ejected after their F/A-18 Super Hornets crashed during operations in the northern Gulf. The aircraft are from Carrier Air Wing Three, which is deployed to the Persian Gulf with the Truman Carrier Strike Group.

~snip~

One of the jets that crashed held two pilots, the other held just one.

more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080107/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/navy_crash;_ylt=AsxWx8X63xuij5qtfuEiL1.s0NUE
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:38 PM
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15. I'm really glad they made it
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AwareOne Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:06 PM
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16. How many millions does an F-18 cost
nice flying boys. "Hey, watch how close I can get to..Oh shit, eject, eject! Probably hot dogging with multi-million dollar aircraft. Oh WTF, just borrow more money from the Chinese and build two more.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:31 PM
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17. $59,000,000 per copy
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guruant Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:38 PM
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18. What?
"Yeah I'm gonna sit here and make this edgy response, hahaha, yeah they can't fly, they probably worship bush, hahaha, who cares that they almost died, im so edgy hahah yeah"
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:32 AM
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23. Do you have anything to contribute besides being obnoxious?
After all, it's not like three people narrowly escaped death, and it's not like you need to know anything about the situation or what actually happened in order to stick your two cents in.
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:26 PM
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19. I don't vouch for the F-18 specs in this link...
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 07:28 PM by Deny and Shred
...I just found it on the web. It claims an estimated cost of $57 mil, $59 mil and $66 mil apiece for three different models - in 2003 dollars. It appears to be a less-expensive-than-stealth spy plane.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/f18ef/

I gotta figure they were flying a more-improvised-than-usual mission given the boat incident, which would entail greater risk. When politicans react militarily, the servicemen usually are in a tough spot.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:28 AM
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22. It's not a spy plane, it's a multi-role fighter/bomber. NT
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:50 PM
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20. Isn't the F17's on stand down for mechanical failure
now our F18's are having trouble maybe???
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 12:27 AM
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21. There's no such thing as an F-17. NT
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:17 PM
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24. The F-15's were called out of service
for being involved in crashes.

The ones which crashed today are

The two Super Hornets which crashed had similar features to the original F/A-18 but had been extensively redesigned with 25 percent larger airframe, a powerful GE F414 engine and upgraded avionics suite. It was designed to serve as fighter escort, fleet air defense, enemy air defense suppressor, interdiction, close air support and reconnaissance.



All manufactured by Boeing. Boeing had a great Wall Street year last year while its planes keep crashing.

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:52 PM
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25. wow if the F15's are down and now the F18's are malfuntioning
our air defenses are being stretched I heard Alaska's air guard is watching California because their air guard is down from the F15's
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