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rodbarnett Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:25 PM
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Drudge: LIEBERMAN STATEMENT ON CLARK IRAQ TESTIMONY
MANCHESTER, NH -- Joe Lieberman issued the following statement in response to the Drudge Report's discovery of congressional testimony from September 2002 in which Wes Clark made the case for war in Iraq. The report provides evidence directly contradicting Clark's repeated claims that he has been "very consistent" on the war "from the very beginning."

Statement by Joe Lieberman

"Yesterday, Wesley Clark attacked me for pointing out his multiple positions on the war in Iraq. It is no longer credible for Wesley Clark to assert that he has always had only one position on the war - being against it. His own testimony before Congress shows otherwise.

"He may think it is 'old-style politics' to point this out, but the only thing old here is a candidate not leveling with the American people. If we want to begin anew and replace George Bush, we need to level with the American people, which is what I have done in this campaign and throughout my career. You may not always agree with me but you will always know where I stand."

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashjl.htm

Comment: And the mud slinging continues
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:29 PM
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1. Wow, Joe's Becoming A Regular RW Lapdog.
He on Faux and Insanity's radio show just about every day. Now he being used by Sludge. Hey Joe, why don't you complete your self-immolation and make the switch already. After all things have changed since 9/11.

Jay
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:55 PM
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24. He's on CNBC right now
blasting Clark
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:30 PM
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2. Good news for the Clark campaign
When Lieberman attacks, the other campaign gets a boost.

Thanks Joe!
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:30 PM
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3. The nomination is now Clark's to lose.
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 03:30 PM by stickdog
Better get used to it.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:31 PM
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4. Annoying!
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 03:31 PM by theHandpuppet
What is it with the posting of all these Drudge reports to LBN, and with screaming headlines in all caps, to boot. (This is not ebay -- release the caps key already!)
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:43 PM
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7. Quit complaining about the caps - Drudge posts in caps
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 03:44 PM by rmpalmer
And when you cut n' paste that's how it appears in a post. Geesh you want people here to have to take the time to retype the headline just so you don't have to look at caps?

And for people posting from Drudge - hey, we need to know the enemy propaganda so we can be prepared to defend it. Randi just had a caller saying Oxy Rush played this - so it's the truth.

I'm at work so I haven't had time to read everything, but I take it DU'ers have already posted the truth countering Drudge's selective editing.
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Foswia Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:13 PM
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12. Please be considerate.
its called drop case in MS word, it takes 3 seconds and it is easier to read. Please be considerate.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:14 PM
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14. Too bad...
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 04:15 PM by theHandpuppet
I will keep complaining about the use of "I'M SCREAMING CAPS!!!" and the sudden proliferation of Drudge reports on LBN.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:02 PM
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16. Just don't read the posts or Drudge
That's my opinion. If I post from Drudge I'm not taking the extra time to go play in MS Word first or retyping cause idiot Drudge posts in screaming CAPS!

I know some people here who post big ass images in their sigs I have to scroll past. Or post in hard to read font colors - but I don't complain to them.

This is a piddling issue IMHO. I'm tired of all the people here bitching when someone posts from Drudge - he's a news source. A poor one for sure, but we damn well better read him if we're going to defend our Dem candidates.

We all know how often something Drudge posts becomes gospel the next day from the lazy RW lying media.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 06:03 PM
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22. Don't like DU's rules?
Complain to the moderator, because one of the rules pertains to posting in all caps. It's a rule I (and others here) fully appreciate, because I find the use of all caps to be akin to screaming in someone's ear. Want to post endless Drudge reports, fine by me. But cut out the caps. It only takes a moment to tone down the volume.

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rodbarnett Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:20 PM
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15. Thank You rmpalmer
Edited on Thu Jan-15-04 04:24 PM by rodbarnett
I was going to defend my post but you beat me to it. When these topics are opened to comment very good rebuttal is formed. I think it helps to galvanize our position.

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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:31 PM
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5. well we all know lieberman
has been consistent from the very beginning: kill! kill! kill! and he's sticking with it! consistency is key!
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:37 PM
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6. Yeah, right, Joe...
If Drudge says it, we've gotta BELIEVE it--of course!:crazy:

Guess he's going to have a new link to Drudge's "report" on his campaign's site. What a great Democrat "Brutus" is!:eyes:

Why doesn't he just quote Little Oral Annie's "Slander" job on the General today, and get it over with?x(

B-)
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:46 PM
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8. Drudge's quotes are taken way out of context
See talkingpointsmemo.com
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:10 PM
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11. Josh seriously debunks this entire issue.
Thanks for the link and heads-up, syrinx!
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:57 PM
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9. For once, Lieberman is right
Although I'm no fan of Lieberman, he's got Clark's number here. Clark's pro-invasion celebration in the London Times -- it's easily Googled -- should be brought up every time he discusses Iraq or flaunts his presumed expertise.

The risible piece gets virtually every prediction wrong, from demonstrating Candide-like optimism about the "success" of the invasion and misreading the attitude of the Iraqis to declaring that Germany, France and Russia would swiftly fall in line, quickly followed by Arabs. (Loopiest line: "Many Gulf states will hustle to praise their liberation...") The writing is cloying in its Tom Brokaw-like admiration for this deceitful, immoral, unnecessary, and ultimately tragic invasion.

Last April, Clark quickly swallowed his famous qualms about the war in order to praise it. He hedged his bets, of course, careful to appear concerned about post-Saddam Iraq while toeing the establishment line on WMDs and "democracy." It wasn't the worst piece that could be written -- not the sort of vile crap that, say, Michael Kelly used to write before a bad case of war tourism silenced him. But it spoke volumes about Clark the Empire man, and it stares down the war critic that he pretends to be now.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:07 PM
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10. The only thing that this proves...
...is that, beyond being a lousy campaigner, Leiberman can't even read.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 04:14 PM
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13. Looks like Clark will soon follow Dean into the meat grinder
I am so angry and disgusted at Establishment Democrats such as the four pro-IWR candidates that I am quite prepared to vote for Clark just to deny them the nomination.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:11 PM
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17. Joltin Joe should have read the whole thing
Instead of relying on Drudge cut and paste smear

TPM debunking

So, all that having been said, the option to use force must remain on the table. It should be used as the last resort after all diplomatic means have been exhausted unless there's information that indicates that a further delay would represent an immediate risk to the assembled forces and organizations. And, I want to underscore that I think the United States should not categorize this action as preemptive. Preemptive and that doctrine has nothing whatsoever to do with this problem. As Richard Perle so eloquently pointed out, this is a problem that's longstanding. It's been a decade in the making. It needs to be dealt with and the clock is ticking on this.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:13 PM
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18. I just hope other campaigns don't
follow suit and give Drudge more credibility he doesn't deserve. Lieberman must be getting desperate if he's responding to words taken out of context from a story that has already been debunked. Clark's team, I hope, will give this the response it warrents.
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:28 PM
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20. Jon Stewart nailed Holy Joe the other night
he said lieberman's campaign was built entirely on scolding.

then showed a mock-up poster that said
Lieberman
2004
tsk tsk tsk
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elcondor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:32 PM
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21. Haha--I saw that!
I heart Jon Stewart! :loveya:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 05:27 PM
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19. And Who Said That's There's No Longer Any Debate Within the GOP?
OK, OK...It's just a joke. :freak:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 06:56 PM
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23. Great quote on Joe...
...he's like Bruce Willis in "Sixth Sense": he's dead and doesn't know it.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:59 PM
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25. Thast's a great quote!
Clark supporters, or those just tired of this stuff from Joe:

Email his campaign

This stuff isn't helping him; I don't know why he's doing it.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:00 PM
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26. ROFL - that's a good one... n/t
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 10:32 PM
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27. Lieberman quoting Drudge? What more could you ask? eom
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