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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:37 PM
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9/11 director gave evidence to own inquiry (Whitewash)
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040115-024012-7011r

WASHINGTON, Jan. 15 (UPI) -- The panel set up to investigate why the United States failed to prevent the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, faced angry questions Thursday after revelations that two of its own senior officials were so closely involved in the events under investigation that they have been interviewed as part of the inquiry.

Philip Zelikow, the commission's executive director, worked on the Bush-Cheney transition team as the new administration took power, advising his longtime associate and former boss, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, on the incoming National Security Council.

"He came forward (to answer questions) in case he might have useful information," said Al Felzenberg, the commission spokesman.

The news was greeted with dismay by many of the relatives of the victims who campaigned for the commission to be set up.

"This is beginning to look like a whitewash," Kristen Breitweizer, who lost her husband Ron in tower two of the World Trade Center, told United Press International.

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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:52 PM
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1. With apologies to the victims
Well, duh.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 11:52 PM
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2. Yessiree!!!........A "whitewash" indeed!!!
Let's just ask Charles Mason to hold his own investigation
on his California murders in the 60s.
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:05 AM
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4. fucken shameless.
When is a democratic candidate going to have the balls to ask what these bozos are hiding? Put them on the spot, point blank.
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:04 AM
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3. What a country! I don't see how in the world these families are
stomaching this whole thing. To watch your loved ones die in such a horrific manner. To watch your government drag its feet in an investigation. To see the investigation compromised. How in the world do these people stand it?

This ought to be the top story on every news show in America. But the media...

Sickening.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:19 AM
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5. So there should be more to this story tomorrow?
'A delegation of relatives traveled to Washington Thursday for an evening meeting with commission staff, which was expected to be
stormy. "

reports anyone?
dp
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:20 AM
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6. Unblievable! I've read this article twice slowly
It pisses me off that this is what we're stuck with. Thomas Kean is a joke along with the rest of the Investigative Committee. This is a sham.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO212A.html

Why isn't the media all over this?
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ScholarSeeker Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:22 AM
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7. Disgraceful
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:52 AM
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8. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
"Relatives say the news about Gorelick and Zelikow is a particularly sharp blow to the commission's credibility because they are the two officials to whom the White House has granted the greatest access to the most secret and sensitive national security documents, the presidential daily briefings"

Goddam! Goddam!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 12:56 AM
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9. Investigate the Investigation!
WHY does the Bush Admin. do nothing but impede this investigation?

As a Manhattanite: J'Accuse!
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:05 AM
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10. Outrageous,
Welcome to Chimpy Chimps AmeriKa. This is a shame. Now the Media needs to know why people like myself and Dr Dean may seem a little angry at times.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:15 AM
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11. This is so F**KING Outrageous...... Read this
<Zelikow -- an historian based at the Miller Center for Public Affairs at the University of Virginia -- has also come under fire from some critics for his close ties to senior administration officials. He has had a longstanding relationship with Rice, who hired him to work for her when she was a White House official in the first Bush administration. The two have written a book together.

More recently, some relatives have accused him of being in touch with White House political supreme Karl Rove -- the man widely believed to be the most powerful figure in the administration.>

And This....

<Relatives say the news about Gorelick and Zelikow is a particularly sharp blow to the commission's credibility because they are the two officials to whom the White House has granted the greatest access to the most secret and sensitive national security documents, the presidential daily briefings.

Last year, officials acknowledged that one such briefing in August 2001, more than a month prior to the attacks, warned that al-Qaida was determined to strike in the United States. Some reports suggested that hijacking -- and even the use of airplanes as missiles -- was mentioned as the mode of assault.

"We want the whole issue of who has access to the briefings revisited," said Breitweizer, "the entire commission has to have access to them.">

....This should be all over the place!! Has anyone seen this news anywhere else? ANYONE!?? :grr:


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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:18 AM
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12. the liberal media has on it "usual blinders" for the teflon dictator
two set of rules....
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 07:15 AM
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14. read this commentary. just out
Edited on Sun Jan-18-04 08:47 AM by Skinner
snip
Unless I'm paranoid, it doesn't make any sense at all that George W. Bush, commander-in-chief, sat in a second-grade classroom for 20 minutes after he was informed that a second plane had hit the World Trade Center, listening to children read a story about a goat. Nor does it make sense that the Number 2 man, Dick Cheney—even knowing that "the commander" was on a mission in Florida—nevertheless sat at his desk in the White House, watching TV, until the Secret Service dragged him out by the armpits.

Unless I'm paranoid, it makes no sense that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld sat at his desk until Flight 77 hit the Pentagon—well over an hour after the military had learned about the multiple hijacking in progress. It also makes no sense that the brand-new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff sat in a Senate office for two hours while the 9/11 attacks took place, after leaving explicit instructions that he not be disturbed—which he wasn't.

In other words, while the 9/11 attacks were occurring, the entire top of the chain of command of the most powerful military in the world sat at various desks, inert. Why weren't they in the "Situation Room?" Don't any of them ever watch "West Wing?"

In a sane world, this would be an object of major scandal. But here on this side of the paranoid shift, it's business as usual.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

more
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/011004Hasty/011004hasty.html

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:16 AM
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15. thank you for this joeunderdog....
Edited on Fri Jan-16-04 09:26 AM by leftchick
fascinating article! Though not very comforting. Especially this part...

<Oh, sure, there may be millions of us, lurking at websites like Online Journal, From the Wilderness, Center for Cooperative Research, and the Center for Research on Globalization, checking out right-wing conspiracists and the galaxy of 9/11 sites, and reading columnists like Chris Floyd at the Moscow Times, and Maureen Farrell at Buzzflash. But we know we are only a furtive minority, the human remnant among the pod people in the live-action, 21st-century version of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers.">

and the last paragragh...

<Nor, finally, is it in any way a "theory" that the one, single name that can be directly linked to the Third Reich, the US military industrial complex, Skull and Bones, Eastern Establishment good ol' boys, the Illuminati, Big Texas Oil, the Bay of Pigs, the Miami Cubans, the Mafia, the FBI, the JFK assassination, the New World Order, Watergate, the Republican National Committee, Eastern European fascists, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the United Nations, CIA headquarters, the October Surprise, the Iran/Contra scandal, Inslaw, the Christic Institute, Manuel Noriega, drug-running "freedom fighters" and death squads, Iraqgate, Saddam Hussein, weapons of mass destruction, the blood of innocents, the savings and loan crash, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the "Octopus," the "Enterprise," the Afghan mujaheddin, the War on Drugs, Mena (Arkansas), Whitewater, Sun Myung Moon, the Carlyle Group, Osama bin Laden and the Saudi royal family, David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, and the presidency and vice-presidency of the United States, is: George Herbert Walker Bush.

"Theory?" To the contrary.

It is a well-documented, tragic and—especially if you're paranoid—terrifying fact.

.... This should be required reading for all Americans!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 01:27 PM
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20. great commentary
THANKS FOR POSTING IT!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:47 PM
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27. joeunderdog
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
news source.


Thank you

DU Moderator
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:22 AM
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16. This, especially, blows my mind
(or rather, what's of it. It's been blown so often these three years):

"Relatives say the news about Gorelick and Zelikow is a particularly sharp blow to the commission's credibility because they are the two officials to whom the White House has granted the greatest access to the most secret and sensitive national security documents, the presidential daily briefings."

Imagine how the 9/11 story would have been covered by the US press during the Cold War, if the "terrorists" had struck Moscow and Leningrad with impunity, and the Kremlin conducted this kind of "investigation."

How does America wake up from this nightmare?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 06:22 AM
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13. How do you spell conflict of interest?
In the old days reputable people wouldn't have even accepted a position on this commission and/or would have stepped down at the first hint of a conflict. It seems Toto, that we're not in Kansas anymore.

This is beyond disgusting. Just one more item to add to the list of high crimes and misdemeanors that maybe someday this misadministration will be held to account for.

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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:24 AM
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17. This is beyond belief
and ought to be plastered across frontpages all over America. Of course I see not an ink blot in my local rag, anybody?
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 09:28 AM
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18. none here in West Texas!
Dammit!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:25 AM
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19. All ya see here is Vote for Don Sparks
:hi:
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 02:06 PM
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21. Little bit at CBS, Lots on NYTimes, little in WATimes
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 08:52 AM
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22. Kick!
:kick:
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:17 AM
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23. Zelikow is a spook...
<Zelikow, who the commission says has withdrawn himself from those parts of its investigation directly connected with the transition -- a process known as recusal -- was also appointed to the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board in October 2001.>

Kind of like having Allen Dulles on the Warren Commission.

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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 12:23 PM
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24. When the traitors are investigating themselves...
What do you expect?

Hey, by the way, it's up to all of you to wake up the media. Organize. Hold rallies. March on news stations. Demand that they cover the obvious cover up the 9-11 commission has embarked on. I find it SICKENING that Max Cleland has yet to be interviewed regarding his sudden removal from the 9-11 panel, and then replaced by an intel insider in the personage of admitted war criminal Bob Kerrey.

Karma's gonna getcha!
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:26 PM
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25. Who would have thought that 3 1/2 years later
This tragic event remains completely covered up.
Whenever I see an American flag decal emblazoned with "we will never forget" , I'm both amazed and infuriated.
WHAT won't we forget?
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Mackay Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 01:36 PM
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26. Anyone here catch my ten seconds of fame on Faux news yesterday?
I guess this is a stupid question since no one here is stupid enough to watch the damn thing... but around here you're just preaching to the converted anyway... which is why I rarely post.

Anyway, I was interviewed about Starbuck's coffee being opened up here in Paris and as far as my opinion was concerned and I decided to let them have it, starting with something more important... I knew I'd get cut off after ten seconds but this is what I managed to get across:

"I have mixed feelings about this... As an American and Entrepreneur, I am Pro-American and Pro-Business, but at the same time, it raises some very serious questions that need to be answered: for example, just yesterday the 9/11 commission was called a "whitewash" by the victim's widows... I want to know what George Bush is Hiding? The poor women deserve answers... why is the president stonewalling?"

I was hoping someone around here saw it... because I don't get Faux news here in France. Poor me!
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Mackay Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 08:11 PM
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28. posted by a friend here...
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:31 PM
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29. WOOhooooo Go Mackay!
:kick:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 11:00 PM
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30. Bravo Mackay!
I can't tolerate faux, so I am sad I missed you. Congrats to you on even getting air time let alone your great comments....:)
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:31 AM
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31. Kick!
This HUGE story is being completely ignored by Pravda, isn't that surprising.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:36 AM
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32. Fox whore: "Our apologies, he was clearly not who he said he was"
:toast:

But damn it, that this is the only way to get REAL news across on an American broadcaster!
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