Bush to Unveil Work Force Training Program for Community Colleges

[demdave]

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Bush will announce a new initiative in his State of the Union address to give community colleges more money to train American workers - a proposal that addresses joblessness, a key issue in November's presidential race.
In his national address on Tuesday, Bush plans to unveil at least $120 million in grants, administered by the Labor Department, to enhance work force training programs at U.S. community colleges, education experts said Sunday.

The president is expected to flesh out his proposal during a speech Wednesday at Owens Community College in Toledo, Ohio - a key re-election state that Bush has already visited more than a dozen times.

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAQOS1PLPD.html

[kalian]

1. And just what criteria will be necessary to obtain some of this money?

:shrug:

And another thing: ONLY 120 MILLION dollars? :wtf: This is a slap on
the face to American workers that have been left unemployed.
The illegal Iraqi occupation costs 1 BILLION PER DAY!

Damn these people! :mad:

[aquart]

3. 1.5 billion for religious marriage counseling.

MUCH more important than jobs.

[aquart]

2. And when they graduate they will be employed....where?

Isn't the problem millions of well-trained Americans whose jobs have disappeared.....?

[slor]

4. Don't you people get it...

they will train to be Marriage Initiation Counselors. There is a complete shortage of qualified people in this field! And you thought computers were the wave of the future!

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. What kind of jobs are they training for?

The way UCF has boomed out of control to the point where it's almost impossible to get to know your professors, I'd say that the education business has become more of an end than a means.

[Mikimouse]

6. Training, dear friends, NOT education...

there is a difference. What * is trying to do amounts to converting the community colleges into vocational schools. This seems like a logical first step, if one intends to remove the legitimacy of higher learning and initiate a movement to training 'students' for the future American service industry. This is going to be tantamount to having an educational system full of deskilled students.

[madmax]

7. Why does this song remind me of *bush.

Razzle Dazzle - Chicago

Give 'em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle Dazzle 'em
Give 'em an act with lots of flash in it
And the reaction will be passionate

Give 'em the old hocus pocus
Bead and feather 'em
How can they see with sequins in their eyes?

What if your hinges all are rusting?
What if, in fact, you're just disgusting?

Razzle dazzle 'em
And they;ll never catch wise!

Throw 'em a fake and a finagle
They'll never know you're just a bagel,

Give 'em the old razzle dazzle
Razzle Dazzle 'em
Back since the days of old Methuselah
Everyone loves the big bambooz-a-ler

Give 'em the old three ring circus
Stun and stagger 'em
When you're in trouble, go into your dance...


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"Job growth is expected to be an important issue leading up to November's presidential election and Bush could be vulnerable. The economy has lost about 2.3 million jobs since he took office, giving him the worst job creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover."

[54anickel]

8. It may be just more of the same for the "displaced" worker.

I was laid off from the computer industry. Since it was a mass layoff and the employer signed up for this program, those participating got cards that had to be filled in for tracking purposes of the "grant".

The money covered seminars at the Workforce Development center, resume writing, interviewing, skills and interest assessment,etc.

The money you could get for education is $1000 for 1 year or less, $3000 for 2 or more years of tech school training. They were to accepting of my wanting $$$ to learn small engine/motocycle repair. I'm still working on it, my computer science degree and 15 years of experience sure at worth much these days.

[ScrewyRabbit]

9. Just like all the money for AIDS in Africa

or the money to rebuild Afghanistan. Always make big promises when the cameras are on, then neglect to fund it.

[Malva Zebrina]

10. and the degree will be?

a degree in the Walmart retail business?--or maybe the McDonald's "restaurant" business?. Maybe one could become a "manager" in the McDonald's if they had the Associate degree. That would give them a salary at least five thousand dollars more per year over that of their most basic employee, I bet.

It will be a degree that will encompass all the courses necessary to suceed as a Walmart, or a Home Depot or a McDonald's "associate" What else is left here? Maybe there would be a course on how to go to foreign countries, such as India, to try and break into the job market there?

And wow--that would certainly be worth spending all that time in class,over an above the time spent in working two jobs, and all that money spent on tuition for two or more years in order to be hired by WalMart as an associate with some skills that are backed up by a degree.

--so you may be, if you apply with this "degree" which cost you a fortune, assigned, on acceptance to the WalMart family, to the more hi tech positions as a "degreed" associate--such as you may get to work in the "electronics" department. But, you will not make any more money than the person working in the pet department or the garden area or the health and beauty department who have NO degree!


. Why on earth will people spend their money on this "education" to go to these schools, while probably working two jobs to support their family of one child and then be expecteed to spend more of it on night courses so they can get a job in WalMart, or any other retail shop--because thee are few other jobs available, except for the very lowest and menial of all.

] What other jobs would they be working toward? Health industry? as an aide?

Education as an aide? Salary still very low and not worth the effort and the tuition.

Hey, it will be sold by Bush as a great opportunity that all "Americans" should embrace because it affords them the opportunity to fulfill the "great American Dream" which is that you and other poor persons like you, of humble origin can, if you just "work hard" enough be up there right along with the rich folk.(just like Bush did, right?) and if yo are NOT right up there, there is something wrong with you that you cannot pull uyourself up by your bootstraps.

What kind of a job can anyone expect to get after spending so much of their money on this education?

Either go into the military or go into the police department or the fire department or the health care industry .

There are no other types of jobs that will be available that would be better than an "associate" job in the Walmart.

Has anyone ever traveled the Connecticut River Valley by car or Rv on the blue and the black roads? It is full of old, bricked , large, abandoned mills. It is truly an education in the days gone by, of old.

It is quite informative to see how they have all been virtually abandoned and to explore the history of this demise.

These towns that sprang up along this mill route depended entirely for their economic support on the "mill"--and these towns are now sad, and in sad economic condition. There is nothing there now, in each little "mill" town, but perhaps a little tourism. For instance, an old "mill race" that has been restored by the local Historic Association might be a local tourist photo attraction.

It is a good visual history of how economic factors that are popular in any one era, influence our lives and our history. How many people were forced to go elsewhere after the demise of all of these mills?They were once the hot rage and a good source of income albeit exploitative of the workers.

And why did these mills, one after the other, sink? Believe me, it is one town after another full of abandoned brick buildings that were once a thriving economic factor in the community and the lives of the people who lived and worked there in these small towns.

and quite a lesson in how progress has treated our populations.

[lovedems]

11. You can get your AA from a community college and then go on to

Hamburger U and get a McJob!

[madrchsod]

12. same shit i heard in 1980

when the steel working industry was destroyed. then in the late 80`s when the manufacturing sector went to mexico and beyond. it`s all bushshit, and no one with a brain believes it. some states don`t have community colleges so what the hell do they get-nothing?

[madmax]

13. This will not be an AA degree program.

"...to enhance work force training programs at U.S. community colleges, education experts said Sunday."

I'm betting this will be more like a 8 or 10 week computer training or similar type course. And as most of you noted there are no jobs.