Bush State of the Union Address.

[Silversocal]

What did you think?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-01-20-bush-state-of-the-union_x.htm

[Old and In the Way]

1. His Fascism is showing. nt

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

2. two things so far...

Ted Kennedy's laughing at the Prescription medicine claim and the Dems applauding at the end of the Homeland Security bill shich caused a real dirty look from Smirky.

[54anickel]

13. I loved that part ;-) n/t

[Zhade]

32. I was thrilled that they applauded the expiration of the 'Patriot' Act

That showed more courage than the lukewarm response afterward.

I wonder if any Republicans also applauded? I know some are against it.

[fearnobush]

48. My favorate part of the show.

He really looked like an ass when the opposition clapped at the patRiot Act expiration. As far as repubs, at work, I can sometimes hear them speak negatively about it.

[October]

73. Yes -- he was caught

giving dirty, smarmy looks quite a few times! He looked so ugly, so cocky. I was appalled by his arrogance.

[Malva Zebrina]

19. what he said

war, war, terror, terror, the occupied countries we freed, and a few other lies thrown in. A complete farce with acting skills that are below par. A phoney with half the speech dedicated to war, killing, terror, threats, doom, and fear. Fascist is and was my first impression, and my husband agree.

[snippy]

64. You forgot - tax cut, tax cut ,tax cut.

Maybe we should just give the terrorists a tax cut.

[fearnobush]

47. He was quite Orwellian tonight.

He even said "Big Brother(s) and Big Sister(s)" I'm starting to think that this administration is attempting to control the public thought process as Hitler did. He is perverting the word "freedom" as a means to justify global dominance, Yet he attempts to manipulate the people, and the world by saying, "We have no ambitions of empire." Yet he forgets we, fully 5% of the Earth's population, dominate 70% of the planets wealth and resources. And yet, we, the people of the United States, share only 5% of our county's wealth. The vast majority goes to the 5% on top. and out of that, the top 1% control around 70% of the top. Bush should begin his addresses with "We the few."

[Tommy_Douglas]

70. Does Cheney even talk to Bush anymore?

I mean how can Bush say there are no plans for Empire or world domination when Cheney sends out Christmas cards that imply it must be God's will that American be an empire? Wtf?

[Just Me]

3. Normally, I force myself to watch this man,...

,...but,...I favored, for once, my own need to retain,...me. I chose NOT to subject myself to Rover Rhetoric.

BUT,...I am looking forward to reactions from everyone!!!!

[0007]

14. Me too!

[BuckeFushe]

4. I refuse to watch it.

All ready have the transcript, I want to keep from losing supper. I will not turn off Comedy Central till tomorrow night. Screw the Rethugs.

[fearnobush]

52. I watched it and took notes. But...

about 2/3erds of the way in, my wife started to freak out, she couldn't take it anymore, she shouted, "I hate him, I hate him, I can't stand to hear is puny lying voice and watch his bee-die eyes anymore!" She had to leave the room. Yes it was quite sickening, especially the part about health insurance bank accounts and bogus little tax breaks on workers who pay for their health care. This got me real sick to my stomach. Imagine, Your company tells everyone that each employee must pay $300, $400, 500$ a month for health care, because now, you can use it as a tax write off. Wow, what a cool deal, so if I'm out of college and make 24K a year, I can pay $4,000 dollars for health care and save, what $350, $500 a year on Fed taxes that I barely pay for at 24k anyway. The said part is, people will and do fall for this Bushit.

[MikeG]

5. I'm watching it with the sound off and the closed-captioning on.

I don't have to hear the stupid applause for this idiot.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

6. I can't stand to see his stupid face or hear his voice

I can't stand to see his stupid face or hear his voice.

Counting the days til the clown is outta there!

[SammyWinstonJack]

65. I'm with you on that one!

The sight of him angers me!

[Thor_MN]

7. Couldn't hear most of the start where I was, but

was very happy to hear the analyst talking before the start refer to this several times as his final SOTU address!!!

[truthisfreedom]

8. pure facist politicking. no SOTU being delivered this evening... SOTPNAC

[Turbineguy]

18. HaHa, Freudian slip?

for SOTPNAC I read SNOTPAC

[shoopnyc123]

9. I don't care who it is...

we've got to get him out of there! I'll even go for Lieberman!

[DoNotRefill]

10. Are we living in a dictatorship or a theocracy?

The constant reference to religion and God pisses me off.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

11. The world's coming to an end....

I'm in complete agreement with you! LOL

:toast:

[DoNotRefill]

12. So if the world's coming to an end...

which of us has to repent?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!

:evilgrin:

[Deb]

15. shhh, he just ticked off his base, Big Time

The freeps in this area are going to be FURIOUS with the new Federal programs... bwahahahaha

[Raster]

16. i did not watch the idiot...can't do it...no f'ing way...

...The freeps don't have to be furious with the federal programs, because THEY WON'T HAPPEN!!! Remember infamouns "VaporWare", software that didn't exist and would never exist. The rumor thereof was the show and product. This administration has about as much carry-through on all things positive as a kid with ADD.

[leftofthedial]

17. extremely weakk and defensive on Iraq and terror

repeated lies from 2003 speech that have already been refuted.

"...dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities"????

WTF????

Then the solid three minutes of lying about no child left behind.

then the idiotic trumpeting of phony economic disinformation,. Like the temporary war bubble really means recovery.

Asshole. At least he provided the Dems lots of campaign fodder.

[Zech Marquis]

22. I watched the Barbabrians special

on the History Chanel--much more entertaining than the space cadet chimp :evilgrin:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

46. Except they neglected to talk about the barbarian

occupying the WH.

[formernaderite]

25. It sucked...but what was up with the Nancy and Tom show?

Bush was boring and inept...same as always.
My real question is what posesses the democrats to put up the likes of the ever grinning Nancy and Tom? Nancy looked like she was on something to keep that over animated expression on her face....Tom played that sugar sweet sappiness to the hilt...it didn't reflect the tenor of "what" they were saying. The whole show, from Bush to Daschle seemed like a hysterically funny SNL skit.

[pfitz59]

71. Nancy...facelift gone bad!

Tom..Nancy boy!
'Nuff said.....

[catzies]

78. Nah, but too much Botox that's for sure.

And I think it affected her facial muscles. Her forehead didn't move at all, and her eyes didn't match. One of them drooped, I think.

[masshole]

28. best (worst) line in the speech

"...dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities"

I wonder how many times he rehearsed that line.

[wabeewoman]

30. Gotta argue with that

I thought the best line of the speech was " We have to be good stewarts of the people's money" and something else about wisely spending the people's money. PLEEEZZZE!!

[snippy]

66. I thought he was about to laugh out loud after saying that.

[tinrobot]

50. What does that mean?

..dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities

What does that mean? It's a garbage sentence that means absolutely nothing.

Sigh...

[louis-t]

84. it's like saying...

pasteurized processed cheese food spread product.

[Retrograde]

86. i think maybe

"..dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities

What does that mean? It's a garbage sentence that means absolutely nothing."



it has something to do with teaching physics and chemistry in schools :)

Or it's what one of my math profs called Proof by Blatant Assertion: if you say something often enough and loud enough it becomes true. IIRC Orwell called this The Big Lie

What's next: dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities plans? dozens of weapons of mass destruction-related program activities plan outlines?....I can go on ad nauseam

Frankly, I think it's * not wanting to admit he was wrong (note attempt to be polite here) and back-peddling just a leeeetttle bit on the wording. Sorta like that aircraft carrier banner....


linda

[Zhade]

36. Dossiers of Mass Destruction - fear them. FEAR THEM...!

What was Hussein going to do, give us papercuts from six fucking thousand miles away?

[icymist]

20. Did you notice that when he announced that the Patriot Act

would expire next year that the Dems applauded expectantly? Did you see the look on his face?

[JohnOneillsMemory]

60. This is the only moment that gives me hope. I called my 90 yr old granma.

I had to find out the name of my relative who helped prosecute Nazis at Nuremburg. Sidney Schreiber. From New Jersey.

I felt the pain of millions of holocaust victims watching this fucking Nazi being applauded for his murderous rhetoric and lies right there in our American congress.

My voice is still hoarse from screaming in outrage. Don't know if I can sleep tonight.

I'm grateful for the thousands of like minded people here at du.com.
Viva la resistance.

[Whoa_Nelly]

21. Chimpy

Oo-Oo, Ah-Ah, Tooki-Tooki!

If 100 Chimps randomly typed on 100 typewriters for 100 years, it is believed they still would not be able to write a SOTU...regardless of the fact that each Chimp would have an electronic microphone in its ear receiving all the words in the English language from a remote ROVEr verbal communication device.

The man is an idiot. He kept slurring his words...even pronounced abstinence as abschtinunch.

[peterh]

23. Didn’t watch it….waiting for the commentary…

But…judging from the USA article, no real change…

He’s not for equality, i.e., marriage, which runs counter to our Constitution.

Still into a so-called religious sexual abstinence, which we all know doesn’t work…being aware of your body and freely talking about it….I think can work…
But then, there’s that damnation thingie that seems to be more important than knowledge <rolling eyes>

Commander-in-chief??? Did he show up in a flight suit with a sock??? He’s nothing more than a disengaged AWOL POS who slipped in thought a subtle (well, nevermind) coup-de-tat.

"We are dealing with these thugs in Iraq just as surely as we dealt with Saddam Hussein's evil regime,"………out with the old…in with the new….

“weapons of mass destruction programs”……ahhhh yes…that intellectual capacity thingie again and that 10 year relic buried in a flower garden….damn that was a close call…

“America has always been willing to do what it takes for what is right."….except when there is money involved…..party indifference….

Bush urged Congress to address the rising costs of health care with tax-free savings accounts for medical expenses, tax credits to pay for insurance and ceilings on medical malpractice damage awards. ……money market account = say 1%....premium inflation=say 26%.....yeah, that’s the ticket you fucking moron….it may work for the dittofuckingheads…….

Nevermind…I’ve had my say…

[JoeNormal]

24. My quick take...

Bush playing the terrorism power card for 3/4 of the speech, and Bush telling Congress what they should do to perk up the economy the other quarter with a lotta tax cut gloating in between with a 'horrors of steroids' in sports storie. WTF was THAT about, other than a time killer?

[Nancy Waterman]

26. So many lies. It was unbelievable

The rerun of all the lies about how dangerous Saddam was and how he had all these dangerous weapons programs was just amazing. How he can stand there and make these obvious lies is unbelievable The best part was the closeups of Ted Kennedy's face. He was shaking his head with his eyes rolled, looking absolutely disgusted at tthe level of bull shit being prepetrated on the American people.

Bush twisted the truth in so many ways it just leaves me speechless.
But I was really looking forward to the Democratic rebuttal, and I was grossly disappointed. Nancy Pelosi looked like more of a puppet than Dimwit himself, a rare feat. Tom was a little more expressive but not much. Don't these folks know you have to look alive out there, with some passion, not like a wooden marionette. What a huge disappointment.

[JoeNormal]

49. Ted Kennedy...

heck yeah, he most definatly expressed his opinion when the camera came his way. Good for him, I like to see that and you don't see much of that in these formal, official things.

Gotta agree, the follow-up needed a little more "BANG". But it's pre-recorded. There was plenty to pick apart on Bush's speech that had very little to do with "The State of the Union" and he should get ripped to shreds in the next few days. I doubt he'll see the usual election year SOFTU "bounce". People are pissed about the economy, jobs, health care --- their very lives, and DingDong barely touched the things that matter to middle class Americans. He'll get burned at the polls in a bad economy for his obvious eliteism.

[icymist]

76. Maybe someone could write an essay about how the

State of the Union address went from becoming a simple report to Congress into a tool for political purpose. It might show how Bush is manipulating the public through the media.

[Zorro]

27. Here's the take on the SOTU from the Onion

http://www.theonion.com/4003/infograph.html

[daleo]

55. The Onion site was full of pop-ups of Dennis Miller

Yikes! I know there's pornography on the internet but I wasn't prepared for that.

[catzies]

77. LOL....their background photo wasn't even from last night's SOTU!

Chimpy wore a Republican Red tie last night, and in the photo his tie is blue. Must have been last year.

[trackfan]

29. It was a pile of

CRAAAAAAPPPP! Wife and I were only able to get through it by drinking and yelling the whole way through. What a prick he is.

[Oreegone]

31. GW Bush

All I can say is.......Delusions of Grandeur

[Zhade]

33. What did I think? What I always think - he's a lying, murderous traitor.

He and his puppeteers must be removed from power as soon as possible.

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[peterh]

35. Thanks for the knee slapper…

Oh…goodbye….

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[Zorro]

Boy you sure are noisy

Learn how to unlock your caps, Jethro.

And four more years of Bush ain't going to happen. He's going down in November, and hopefully going to prison in 2005.

[Zhade]

38. How brave of you.

You know, we can hear your ignorant braying even without the all-caps gesture.

You support a traitor. Deal with it.

[hyepwrd]

40. he'll do it again

the Democratic party rebuttal pretty much sealed that fate.

[Zorro]

41. Yes he'll do it again

Lose the election, that is.

I look forward to the Democratic candidate kicking the living shit out of this incompetent fraud this year.

I'm ready for a leader, not a slacker, a poseur who goes through the motions of acting like a president when he's not taking another vacation or a fundraising excursion.

[koopie57]

45. You were so close....

You can spell and punctuate, but you have only learned the capital letters. Just once I would like to see spelling, grammar, and a thought process all at once. Oh, and no fortune telling. Do they hand out crystal balls when you register as a Republican?

[fearnobush]

56. Thank God it can only be four more years.

Even if Chimpy and Diebold steal the Election. So long as 65% of the vote is against him. The Chimp is out, Diebold or not.

[falcon]

39. NPR

I was listening to the warm up to the speech by Whora Liasen of NPR. Her mouth must be hard wired directly to the little satans dick. She kept busting in and defending the asshole on evey little thing said by Daniel Schorr that might be remotley negative. After that shit why bother pretending everything is normal.

[BadGimp]

42. could this be a coincidence?

[icymist]

43. He still seems to think that he can tie Iraq and Al Queada

together....yeah, we're fighting Al Queada in Iraq....now since creating this hotbed of a quagmire. Bush and the neo-cons are reckless and they'll destroy the world before they'll admit that they're wrong!

[DarkSim]

44. I am Saddam, Saddam I am.

I wonder how good old hussen would have run that speech. Probably much the same Bush did.

Utter waste of time, bastard has the balls to lie infront of the whole country.

[Entente]

51. Here is part of peech:

"Some critics have said our duties in Iraq must be internationalized. This particular criticism is hard to explain to our partners in Britain, Australia, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Thailand, Italy, Spain, Poland, Denmark, Hungary, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Romania, the Netherlands, Norway, El Salvador and the 17 other countries that have committed troops to Iraq. As we debate at home, we must never ignore the vital contributions of our international partners or dismiss their sacrifices. From the beginning, America has sought international support for operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have gained much support. There is a difference, however, between leading a coalition of many nations and submitting to the objections of a few. America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people."


All of those country believed in internationalizing the Iraq debacle before we went to war. Just ask the british, australians, japanese, south koreans, philipinos, thailanese, italians, spanish, polish, hungarians, bulgarians, ukranians, romanaians, people from the netherlands, norwegians, salvadorians, turkish and the whole world over.


I guess we can dismiss all of their opinions. The majority of the world and not the few as Bush belives.

America does not need a permission slip to bully the world, that was proved in this administration.


Their days are numbered....

[Entente]

53. Was Cheney dead?

The state of the union was bearable only b/c I was w the young dems of my state and we all made our opinions known the whole time.

Let's just say we were not buying any bull from this man who has proven everyday why we did not vote for him.

[Entente]

54. More Compassionate Conservatism Crap? The CCC?

from speech:


"It is also important to strengthen our communities by unleashing the compassion of America's religious institutions."

[moondust]

57. Yesterday's news.

On to New Hampshire!!!!

[calimary]

58. I'm wondering if he had a couple of belts before he went out there.

Quite a few slurs and fumfering of lines:

"...security partment"
"...businesses are oping."
"...drug trafferkers"
SEVERAL "nuculer"s
"...weapons of mass destru-destruction"
"...a higher standard from our friend" - we have only one left by now.
"...third cort-quarter"
"...highly skilled fillds" (could that be fields?"
"...series of measure-measures"
"...needless fedrual-federal regulation"
"...unseen pillars of civilization" - slurred that one.
"...lawn forcement" - new priority for the Interior Department?
"...an additional 23 millions"
"...so skeel-schools can teach..."
"...shildin" (translation: children)
"...America, the land of second chance"
"...Ashley Pearson, aged 2, aged 10" (which is it, george?)

Can't read my writing but there was at least one more.

TWO unauthorized rounds of applause:
1) when he said the Patriot Act was going to expire next year - piss-ant facial expression in reaction,
2) when he mentioned that tax cuts are going to expire next year."

Also, FOUR mentions of the word "compassion" - the first one coming at 6:12, just a few minutes into the speech, and the last at 7:01 (pacific time, that is).

Also, three cuts over to Ted Kennedy, who was shaking his head in disbelief - GO TED!!!

Hilarious "Simon Sez" effect when camera showed reactions - with Dennis Hastert dutifully rose to give his lordship a standing ovation, and everybody on the republi-CON side mindlessly obeyed. Everyone on the Democratic side stayed seated. MULTIPLE TIMES. YAY!!!

I don't recall too many cases in which people actively refused to respond, and so many people resolutely stayed seated in the face of presumably compulsory standing ovations. It was GREAT to see the contrary side of Democrats coming out so visibly. Also the lukewarm applause some of them gave. Lots of frenzied hand-clapping on the republi-CON side, while many of the Dems just sat there. GREAT!!!!

And so now we're gonna start getting serious about friggin' steroid use, 'eh? And rehabilitating prisoners, 'eh? Bigtime priorities and bigtime spending opportunities, 'eh?

He also seemed to be going out of his way to overcompensate on the pronunciation of the word "lists." It really made my eyebrows go up. It sounded so much like somebody who'd had a little too much to drink and was trying WAY too hard not to slur his words.

Oh yes, and I DO love this MOST memorable quote - one for the ages:

"We live in a time set apart." Uh... okaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy...
Man, george, you really took your profundity pills today. Wow. I'm whelmed.

And when he mentioned how important it was for third graders to be able to handle math and reading at a third grade level, I found myself wondering if he's mastered that, himself, yet.

I was proud of the Dems for not rubber-stamping everything. And Ted Kennedy's expressions were WUNNNNNNderful. When they cut to Tom DeLay early-on in the speech, you could see his shifty eyes darting from side to side. Looked like he was taking a head-count of everybody who was dutifully applauding as they should, and who wasn't - so he'd know who to start punishing tomorrow. What a Nazi.

on edit - just a couple of points I forgot before.

[louis-t]

85. I was thinking last night

how much this reminded me of Hitler's Neuremburg speeches. The standing-O's looked rehearsed and phony. I wonder if Newt passed the torch to someone who's job now is to give repubs a list of what words to applaud and when to do the Wave, etc.

[lebkuchen]

59. Did he discuss his achievement of over 500 US dead, untold # of Iraqis?

Surely he would have remembered our war dead-for-no-damn-good-reason.

[Norquist Nemesis]

61. The SOTU timing will backfire

We all know the timing of the speech was to take the stage away from the Dems. I predict his timing will only re-energize us! Thanks, GW...we only hate you more and more of us hate you now.

[catmandu57]

62. We couldn't watch that dog and pony act

I did see the response, and I kept thinking wtf is up with these people. Pelosi stumbled as bad as the moron* and neither of them had any fire.

[Tracer]

63. Watch?!!? I'm no masochist.

However, I did enjoy Divine Design and Animal Precinct.

[Gingersnapsback]

67. Applause

I seem to remember that no repugnican ever applauded or stood for Clinton. I was appalled at their lack of respect for our Commander in Chief. To our credit, Democrats still have some common decency and sense of grace that the Barbarians lack. I believe this is the kind of actions that Dean referred to when he said, we want our country back. Kerry's actions speak louder than Dean's words. I think he will appeal to the few republicans that truly are gentlemen, ladies, and scholars and are embarrassed by their Commander and thief.

[lumpy]

68. I noticed the obligatory military

personel weren't clapping very heartedly.

[sallydallas124]

69. my favorite part of the speech

"So tonight I call on team owners, union representatives, coaches, and players to take the lead, to send the right signal, to get tough, and to get rid of steroids now."

It was hilarious when he looked at the camera and boomed in his little big-man voice "get rid of steroids now." The same old tired rhetoric and then he's talking about steroids? WTF?

Cheney really doesn't look well. He seemed barely able to sit up straight. Maybe that's why he's locking himself away in the bunker. He doesn't look capable of handling great amounts of stress.

Fox's filming of the speech was humorous and irritating. When he talked about kids, they would show some senator's preteen kid who must have been invited for that very purpose, and did the same thing with seniors, military, etc. At the end they slowly zoomed in on a sleeping toddler in her dad's arms.

Overall, though, same old bs. Mr bought and paid for trying to front like he's concerned about the people.

[pfitz59]

72. Proposed Constitutional Convention......

To ban gay marriages! I kid you not!

[October]

74. Constitutional Amendment?

Is that what you meant?

It was unreal, wasn't it?

Oh, and let's begin America's fight against steroids! Steroids? In the SOTU speech?

[Danieljay]

75. Did you see him knock over the glass..

of water when turning around to shake Cheneys hand, there is a picture of it on yahoo slide show...if I knew how to post pics here..I would. Classic Bushism.

[Enraged_Ape]

82. Here's the picture of him knocking over Cheney's water

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[MO_Dem]

79. Another example of his dishonesty

I think, was his demand that the Patriot Act be renewed, compared with his criticism of past administations for arresting terrorists, charging them in court, and convicting them. If he thinks that's the wrong way to deal with terrorists, why does he think we need the Patriot Act?

[Cush]

80. What balanced poll

.... The poll of 381 people reflected a viewing audience sympathetic to Bush, with 46% Republican, 28% independent and 26% Democrat. ....

[many a good man]

81. Biggest Lie of the Speech

"And no one can now doubt the word of America. "

#2:

"And we should limit the burden of government on this economy by acting as good stewards of taxpayers' dollars. "

[PatGund]

83. What do I think?

I think it's a major miracle I didn't rip my radio out of my dashboard and hurl it out the window while listening to his "State of my Re-Selection" address.

Disgusting mixture of defensiveness, arrogance, and smugness is what it was.

[Ksec]

87. Have you ever seen a cow poop?

Have you ever watch a cow shit. I mean the actual act of expelling shit from his bunghole. Thats what the sotu looked like to me.

[Whoa_Nelly]

88. Drunk

He really did appear and speak as if he were drunk. He made many mistakes in speaking and slurred his words. However, perhaps it was the remote ROVEr speech feed in his ear that kept disrupting his spew of lies and garbage. Perhaps the speaking errors were due to being nervous of stating outright blatant lies and half-truths, and knowing he would be torn apart afterward.

Nawwww....No excuses for the little twerp.
He was drunk.

on edit: typos and the art of writing O8)

[Ksec]

89. Maybe he was Oxyed

like his hero Rush. hehe Wouldnt surprise me.