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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:13 PM
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Kerry takes lead in NH, new Herald poll shows
http://news.bostonherald.com/national/national.bg?articleid=596

Sen. John F. Kerry has catapulted into a 10-point New Hampshire lead six days before the nation's first primary, bouncing out of Iowa and over longtime frontrunner Howard Dean, according to a new Boston Herald poll.

The Massachusetts senator leads Dean 31 percent to 21 percent, with a slipping Wesley K. Clark at 16 percent after skipping the Iowa caucuses.

Sen. John Edwards is in fourth place with 11 percent, followed by Sen. Joseph Lieberman with 4 percent. Rev. Al Sharpton and Rep. Dennis Kucinich continue to barely register.

Herald pollster R. Kelly Myers called it a ``dramatic turn-around for John Kerry.''
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:18 PM
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1. Granted Clark has slipped in this poll
but the fact that Clark and Dean are now so close means Clark has a good shot at overtaking Dean if his slide continues.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:23 PM
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3. It could play out like that
Clark could now overtake Dean.
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Rooktoven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 08:39 PM
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11. Or Edwards could overtake Clark... nt
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kcr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 08:01 PM
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10. Notice that Edrawds is not far behind Clark
Clark could convievably finish behind Edwards.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:48 PM
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16. Fourth place for Clark puts him out of the race.
At least it will be down to Democrats, if you can call DLCers that.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 01:42 AM
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23. A Clark-Edwards ticket makes me slaver
and it makes the neo-con thieves shiver in their jackboots
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:42 PM
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13. Why on earth would any Democrat...
...support Clark over Kerry? Time (perhaps)to think of rallying round the Kerry/ Edwards ticket. Or at least thinking of it. Clark may be a very nice fellow and great credentials to be an excelllent Secretary of State or Defense Secretary, but President? No way. With no experience or committent to non military international and domestic issues? I don't think so. I do not seek to tear Clark down but he does not have the experience and depth of experience in policy and issues to be Preseident. I fear where that inexperience and lack of committment might lead. there is no record on which to judge his candidacy.
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freetempe Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:56 PM
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18. Actually
Kerry has taken equally from both Dean and Clark. Moreso from Clark maybe. The recent polls I've seen had Dean around 30 and Clark around 25, that means both have lost about 10% each. Edwards has taken some away from Dean and Clark as well.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:18 PM
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2. 10-point lead over Dean!
Wow. That's quite a jump. Dean and Clark are both sinking.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:26 PM
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4. ugh
character assasination works

time for this antiwar voter to dig out nader's number, methinks
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:48 PM
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15. And if you think are taking out Nader's number
...then please....take it with the cyanide pill. What I mean is this: This cannot be a one issue campaign. No candidate is perfect. All of the Democrats are better than Bush. Defeating Bush is Priority #1.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:29 PM
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5. Can't judge how accurate this is,
but it seems to me it's in Rove's interest to tout Kerry as the frontrunner and paint Clark as
losing steam -- all before a single vote has been cast. Clark has the repukes scared shitless -
the one Dem who can kick the chimp's sorry ass back to Crawford.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:34 PM
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6. Why would that be in Rove's interest?
They don't want to run against a decorated war hero, what with Chimpy trying to tout his supposed war creds...I think running against Kerry is bad for them.
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SlainteMhath Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:37 PM
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7. Is Clark still a Democrat?
I can't keep up with his flipping. Perhaps he is a more of an ABB party member.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:42 PM
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8. YES...
Clark is STILL a Democrat! :argh:
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 07:50 PM
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9. DON'T trust the Herald--R/W media arm.
They are grooming Kerry because the bosses are probably afraid of another candidate more (Dean?)

If the Herald really had it their way, they would say that all the Dem's are losing. I suspect they are just following orders with the Kerry story.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:54 PM
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17. Here is what me thinks
Kerry does not have the money to carry on into November. Bush will financially break his back unless the Ketchup money comes into play. Dean has the money and is getting his butt kicked daily in the media. Kerry and Edwards are both likeable, so are Dean and Clark. Dean has the money raising and Clark would kick their butts. Kerry and Edwards are both liked by Dems but they don't have the fundraising, Deans fire or Clarks national security abilities. Rove made the comment that Dean was their hope for the Dem candidate. That was when he had no money. I have not heard that come out of his mouth lately. Kerry is broke and he has not been getting the bad press. This is the thing that Dean went thru when he was deciding to take the matching funds or not. It is all about the money people, don't fool yourself, the politics in this nation are all about money and they have been for awhile.
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delete_bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:23 PM
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20. I'm not concerned about the money
Whoever the nominee, the disgust at this maladministration will create contributors who have never given in the past.

If only 4% of those who voted for Gore give $100, that's $200 million. Or if 8% give $50. The point is that this is going to be by far the most heavily funded election in our history, and we will get our share. The ease of making contributions over the internet helps immensely.
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LiberalTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 11:55 PM
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22. I want ABB, BUT
I don't honestly see myself giving $100 to a candidate that I don't even like... Assuming that everyone will not only reach down deep in their pockets, but also make it out to the polls in November is a HUGE assumption that I think we would be wrong to make at this juncture. We've got to be seriously concerned about who our candidate will be-- and how soon will we know???
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ACPS65 Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:58 PM
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25. Give me a break.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:44 PM
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14. Dean losing steam...?
That is not Rove's doing. Rove is a highly skilled and evil manipulator up to anything but...but....it was Dean who lost steam by blowing so much of it off on Tuesday.
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RichV Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:52 PM
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21. Agreed.
That speech is getting sooooo much coverage, and none of it positive. And nobody I've talked to out in there real world here (ATL) thinks it was anything but bizarre behavior. Sadly, Dr. Dean has given the media a big pile of cud, and they're happily chewing on it.
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 10:11 PM
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19. Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner: It IS in the interest of Rove and the Republicans to smear Dean and Clark --BOTH ANTI-WAR candidates.

Can't talk about the war, the missing weapons of mass destruction, or anything else that remotely connects this lying bunch of thieves to an illegal and unjust war.

Ain't no way in hell the Chimpster could answer stiff, direct questioning on the war. So, the Rove-Corporate Media game-plan is to smear or marginalize (Kucinich, Sharpton, Braun) all anti-war candidates and push the non-threatening leftovers.

Sorry folks, but it's looking more and more "pre-determined."
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 07:53 PM
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24. Silly conspiracy theory
...stuff. No-one is more anti war than I am. No-one more anti Bushmisdmin. But there are many factors to consider when choosing a president and when choosing the electable candidate. Let's not always assume that every shift of the political winds is due to the evil machinations of Karl Rove et al. Powerful and malignant they may be but THEY ARE NOT OMNIPOTENT. To start thinking they are is to give away the power to beat them. The people who will beat them are all of us collectively. And the all of us includes some with less defined views on all kinds of topics. Rove is not God. And there are many who are qualified to be president. Opposing the war is important. the political litmus test that matters in the end is being the not-Bush. That said however, in this selection primary season - let's look at ALL the important issues - in addition to the war. Trade, health Care,the environment, reproductive rights education, Civil rights and freedoms, equity, foreign aid and all the important Bush-threatened values and opportunities. When taken that whole mix into consideration the best candidate is less easily discernible.
Anybody But Bush
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-21-04 09:32 PM
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12. Iowa Bounce
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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