Moving jobs abroad: Corporate America takes interest, notes...

[JCMach1]

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK- More than 150 corporate executives, many paying $1,400 a head, listened intently for tips on how to move jobs overseas effectively. Outside, on a frigid Manhattan sidewalk, a group of fewer than 20 spirited demonstrators protested the "offshore outsourcing" conference that opened Wednesday.

With the loss of jobs to other countries once again being thrust into the spotlight by a presidential campaign, the newer trend of moving white-collar positions overseas has grown so controversial that attendees from major corporations such as Microsoft Corp. and Cisco Systems Inc. declined to discuss the conference.

One speaker unexpectedly decided to bar the media from his presentation. His topic: Is offshore outsourcing unpatriotic?

"I'd prefer not to comment," the speaker, Jeffrey Cohen of the big consulting firm McKinsey & Co., said impatiently when asked why the session had been closed... http://gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040122/BUSINESS/201220319


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I AM TOO DISGUSTED FOR WORDS...!

[MI Cherie]

1. Offshore outsourcing IS unpatriotic ...

... Must have been a short presentation.

[Lost4words]

2. Enemies of the working class IMO.

These people dont give a shit for working Americans. They are not my countrymen, they are quickly becoming my foe. Saddam never did anything to to match this. To them its a little more profit to us its our livelihood. When someone or something threatens your life its considered acceptable to defend your self and family. I dont think a cream pie in the face is going to do the trick. Its time we took our gripes to their living rooms.

[kysrsoze]

8. Buncha fucks

All they're doing is slitting their own throats. Massive profits due to labor cuts and outsourcing to foreign countries just eats up demand all the way through the supply/demand chain.

[louis-t]

11. Let's hope 'tinkle up'

works a lot faster than'tinkle down'.:grr:

[papau]

3. At least conference price is down from $2000 pd during Reagan

Folks forget that Reagan's job growth had a heavy McJob portion as good jobs went overseas in manufacturing and pretend jobs went over in "brand maintenance"(for tax reasons) as only the top got richer under Reagan (unlike Clinton where the bottom 20%, etc got a little bit better off while the top got richer).

Indeed the Reagan meetings were at resorts, rather than NYC, for the most part! I was doing international work at the time - focus on benefits and taxes - and was amazed at how many wanted to screw their fellow citizens.

[kaitykaity]

4. These articles are really helping me convince my

very conservative friend that she shouldn't vote
for Bush this time.

(Here's another link for the story. The Gainesville
one wouldn't work for me.) :shrug:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2001841463_outsource22.html

[joeunderdog]

13. Lou Dobbs slaughtered Tom DeLay on this Wed nite.

DeLay lost his swagger and Lou delivered blow after blow. Lou is conservative, but he's all about JOBS.

Jobs used to be a bipartisan goal, but the parties always disagreed on how to get there (tax breaks vs. service delivery). Bush is clearly anti-jobs in America. Many people see this. (Immigration, OT, outsourcing, Walmarting, etc.)

less than 1% of Americans could agree with the practice of outsourcing. It's bad, and most conservatives know it. Dems should hammer this issue.

[54anickel]

5. kick

[ikojo]

6. Offshoring and outsourcing is not unpatriotic

because capital (money) has no allegiance to place. Since all these corporate execs think about is maximizing the bottom line they are pretty much thinking like money.

I do believe that all companies who offshore their jobs should not receive incentives to do so. Let them foot the bill for the technology needed. Why should American taxpayers pay to move jobs overseas?

[pinkpops]

7. amen

It is one thing to compete with foreign companies, quite another to subsidize American companies who take jobs overseas.

[kysrsoze]

9. It's funny how companies like Toyota, Nissan, Honda, etc. can...

beat the living sh*t out of the US car companies who send all their manufacturing jobs lately to Mexico. The main problem is because their products absolutely suck. Execs don't think about pleasing customers nearly as much as cutting costs. Idiots, they are.

[Malva Zebrina]

10. Why call it Corporate America?

Corporate anything does not have any committment to anything else but it's bottom line and it's profit. Corporate America? It's Corporate profit and the hell with America and it's people. We do not elect anyone or any person connected with the fabulously wealthy and the fabulously endowed CEOs and the boards of "corporate America".

We are being jerked around by "corporate America" and people like their whores, for instance, George Bush, if you can call him a "people" who thinks he is a real bright and intelligent, priviledged corporate person entitled to con us all are jerking us around. It is time to stop this exploitation. It is insane and it is evil.

We do NOT need to be striving, ever striving, ever striving to be someone or something or someplace that we think will bring us some respect amongst others that we are ever so conscious of their "report cards" on us. It is far more satisfying to be your own person.

We are only here, each one of us individually, for a short time--and we must make the best of ourselves according to ourselves and our conscience and what we think is the ultimate meaning in our lives. That is the most happiness we can know if we pursue that goal. I do not think that corporate American provides any meaningful goals at all.

We do NOT need to subscribe to any of this greed, and this consumerism--it is truly a pathetic, senseless and a shallow way to go through life, for the short time that we are here.

It is time to stop this superficial values that what we own determines our "success" or our "worth"

--our children have become little, fat , spoiled, Ritalin eating drugged brats and their parents have become parents who believe their children are indeed of genius quality and that is not be recognized by the public school system and it's beleagured teachers who, goddamm it, do not recognize their genius child has ADD, and that is why they cannot read, so therefore we must all pay for their little genius children to go to a private, most likely Catholic, school on a voucher. Because they do not want to pay "twice". Well I do not want to pay at all since I have no children attending school or grandchildren attending school. Why the hell am I paying for any educationat all, I ask myself.

Reject it. This is NOT life--buying and trying-striving and conniving to get somewhere according to someone else's determinors of what "success" means and is sold as "is"

[NeoConsSuck]

12. My mother told me long ago..

sometime during the 60's: Corporations have no allegiance to any country, regardless of where they are based. How true her words are today.

She said in every war, you'll always hear the term "Protecting Vital Interests". What corporation names are behind these vital interests? They have no problem having American youth die for their "vital interests", but they don't want to hire them.