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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:21 PM
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US getting desperate for UN help in Iraq
The US administration has alternately fought with, derided and sidelined the UN for more than a year as it pursued the war in Iraq, then reserved postwar authority mostly for itself.

But now American officials are asking the UN for assistance in getting out of a dangerous political stalemate in the still embattled country.

The plea for help may be a sign "of genuine concern on the part of the United States that things aren't going well," said Christopher Preble, a foreign affairs analyst at the libertarian CATO Institute in Washington. "Before ... I think that UN involvement was seen by ... the Bush administration as being more trouble that it was worth."

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2004/01/24/2003092412
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:26 PM
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1. I hope B*sh wishes he hadn't been so snotty
and called the UN irrelevant. Watch for backpedaling on those statements soon. "Oh, no, we never said the UN was irrelevant".
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:26 PM
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2. For re-selection, they will lie, cheat and bribe everyone they can...
to get a "resolution" of the Iraq shithole mess. And then say, see what a great mission accomplished! They will be desperate to dump that freaking disaster before the elections.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 05:33 PM
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3. I remember Bush/media telling us : "The U.N. is irrelevant"
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 05:34 PM by Dr Fate
Remember that?

I wish DEMS would call them on that one too...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:18 PM
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4. I'm sure the UN will take it under advisement and give the
neo-cons a response by,say, 11/15/04.

Sure, let Bush off the hook for starting a needless war, so he can free up the troops for the next US intervention. Not like everyone in the world doesn't know about the Project for a New American Century.

Bush cannot win...he must give up the oil/airbases or retain and stand by as Iraq devolves into anarchy.
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monobrau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:29 PM
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5. They should make it a requirement
I hope somebody in the UN (France?) will pledge assistance upon our completing a regime change. The current administration is the number one threat to the security and environmental health of the world, and if the UN wants to be considered more than a "debating club", it should work towards liberating the citizens of these United States from the stupidity of approximatly 20% of the population.
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 07:51 PM
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7. Don't Raise Your Hopes
The US approach, as probably everyone else in the UN, seems to be if it is to our benefit then we will push it.
I would expect that the members have decided that if the US wants to rule they will let them spend to their hearts content. They will probably take a back seat until the US realizes that they need help in keeping China from becoming the dominant world power.
Then the question will be ?
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 06:35 PM
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6. this one issue is turning some who voted for Bush against him
for most sane and sober people, this is admission of wrongdoing to ever attack Iraq in the first place, unilaterally and against the wisdome of the UN inspectors who held their ground. Bush lied, via Powell to the UN in order to satisfy his need to kill and get what he coveted. Yes, I do think he has a "need" to kill and I think he justifies that with his religion--after all, all the biblical characters just killed and killed and killed in order to prevail. He sees himself as the saviouor who will return. Unfortuneately, this means he has to kill tens of thousands of innocent, running, scared,trembling people and their children who had nothing to do with anything concerning a threat to our safety.


Many will see it as a wimpy,wishy washy attempt to have to be bailed out because of the failures of the llittle boy Dauphine, George Bush, the stupid.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-24-04 10:50 PM
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8. The UN help isn't coming no matter who is in office
Edited on Sat Jan-24-04 10:56 PM by lcordero
Consider that if the US is overstretched then so would Canada, France, Germany, and every other country on this planet.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 01:53 AM
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9. these pricks have no shame
It's whatever it takes. Some suits from State have probably visited Annan with some briefcases full of cash (our money, our deficit) just like they bribed the Shias in Iraq to go along so far.

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