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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 03:56 PM Original message |
California county clerk to refuse all marriage ceremonies days before gays may wed |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ann needs some ruby slippers |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. there's no place like Bakersfield |
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olddad56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
72. a little piece of Texas, right here in California. |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. question |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. She finally said she will issue licenses, but will shut-down the performing of ceremonies |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. Yup. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Identical in principle to Sheriff John Green refusing to hold a court-ordered foreclosure auction. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Oh sure, identical |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Sorry but both people refused to do their jobs as public employees. It's just that simple. n/t |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Not to defend the lady but Barnett is not required by law to perform w. ceremonies |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Newspapers said Barnett tried to avoid licensing and that 's her job. n/t |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 04:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. OK you win |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. From a simple-minded point of view, perhaps (nm) |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. Truth is usually simple or as you say simple-minded. n/t |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. On the contrary, the truth is usually a complex thing. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 06:09 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I agree Barnett should resign but the simple truth is you and I disagree. Have a nice day. n/t |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
40. It's too bad for you that Auschwitz is shut down |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. ICE is operating plenty of containment centers - good job opportunities there. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. Intent is a valid criterion when evaluating actions. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Bullshit. One does it out of compassion, the other from hate. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 05:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
50. You know where you're making your mistake? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. The Sheriff of Mendocino County |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Are you glad he does it, or do you think he shouldn't, or what? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. We have enough alcohol outlets in Mendocino County, |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Out of curiosity, what makes that number "enough" for you? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. It is way more than enough. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Okay :-) can you tell me what makes it "way more than enough"? |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Identical??? I think not. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. If you don't want to do your job, then quit sweety. Funny how the public servants |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. She will now discover what the word "pressure" means. |
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jamesinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I looked on the voter registration for Kern Co. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Ann is her first name |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
53. Let's just call "social conservatives" what they are - HATEFUL BIGOTS. |
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Spangle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #10 |
60. Public persons will not be listed |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. She needs to be canned -- she's there to serve the people -- ALL the people |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. It's up to you to can her, if I'm not mistaken |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. It's elected but there are special circumstances for removal |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. It looks like she's got that covered |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Not in Kern County though my son lived there |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. If you want to read the hilarity of it all |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I am glad someone clicked through to the articles at Bakerfield |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. why does this woman still have a job? hey, lackbrain, you are an EMPLOYEE of WE THE PEOPLE-- |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Because like a majority of people who live in Kern County |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I know what you mean. I live in one of the reddest counties in the country |
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Believing Is Art (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. Not surprised. |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It's more because of the agriculture |
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Believing Is Art (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. True |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. It won't be fertile for long |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
17. This sounds to me to be a justification.... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. k & r |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. There's so damned much of this -- refusing to do their job because of their xtianity |
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4_Legs_Good (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Agreed! JFK said when running in 1960 that if he ever got to a point where his religion and his job |
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Rob H. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
21. I wish *I* had a job where I could refuse to carry out |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. Family Code Section 400-402 |
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cstanleytech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
26. Can she be terminated/impeached or is she pretty much secure until |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. She's secure |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
31. Let's hear it for Rev. Byrd Tetzlaff of Unitarian Universalist Fellowship |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
32. My goodness, they really hate us don't they. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. Oh I love CA all over again. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. as if i needed another reason to *not* stop in Bakersfield |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. I think the sun |
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santamargarita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
41. Who in the Hell goes to BAKERSFIELD? |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. Goodgreef |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
43. In contrast, the clerk in my CA county plans to issue the first license to himself and his partner. |
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RexDart (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. About the same in Santa Cruz. |
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Smokey72 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. Email her county board of Supervisors |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
46. I knew there was reason Bakersfield was called.... |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
58. She should not serve those forclosure papers. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. ICE is looking for employees like you. No compassion, no morality, willing to do what you're told. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. The mistake you're making is the one of believing that all laws are equal |
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Carnea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I see the difference and that is my judgment as well. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Those who take the side of the profiteers should get the sack. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. What is it with all these people who've just joined comparing these two totally different situations |
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