Kerry wins NH primary.

[maveric]

With 40%. Dean 2nd.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040127_2374.html

[djg21]

1. Looks like its going to be Kerry/Edwards 2004 . . .

[joshcryer]

6. Probably Kerry/Dean.

Unless Edwards and Clark stay in as spoiler candidates.

[rocktivity]

14. Kerry/Dean? Two New Englanders?

I think Kerry HAS to take Edwards--a young Southerner is what's needed to balance the ticket.

rocknation

[alittlelark]

15. In NM with its well educated masses

Clark appears to be king - at least among my family members and friends, and friends of friends - who are educated and thinking about our future.

[alittlelark]

22. Met Kerry - 2 houses from my dad's

Last summer in Albuquerque. Had just came back from Pagosa Springs w/ the sulfuric stink surrounding me. Had my 6 year old with me. Saw the signs and followed. Had to leave because I reeked (fortunately I had my luggage 2 houses away). And returned 3 min later w./dress!!



Anyway, Came, Saw, Took Pic's w/son



He has an aversion to eye contact which I (my own perception) found disturbing.

If you support him, Remember that he was re-born within the 'tomb'. I believe that all that sh*t can be sh*t, unless there is that sickening grain of truth.

I will support him if it comes to* vs kerry......but DAMN THAT STINKS!!

[diamond14]

2. Go Kerry...this is GREAT for America...the time is now...Vietnam

has come full circle...a DECORATED Vietnam War Veteran will defeat a Vietnam War Deserter......

it's time to bring it all to the front...those who deserted, those who took medical deferments, those who FOUGHT and came back to PROTEST....

it's beautiful, and it's time....


Kerry can STAND UP to bush* and the bush* war LIES http://www.JohnKerry.com

[maveric]

5. A Kerry / Clark ticket would be a great one.

Two war heroes, one a Rhodes Scholar from the south, the other with 20 + years of Washington experience. You would think that the patriotic fervor along with the bu$h dissapointments and atrocities, they'd be a shoo-in.
I just hope that Diebold or martial law doesnt prevent that from happening.

Edited the order of the names.

[JoFerret]

7. Not with Clark at the top

of the ticket. Nice guy and all but we need the domestic experience as well as all the war stuff. Wrong way round.

[maveric]

9. I meant Kerry/ Clark. I just edited. n/t

[JoFerret]

20. Can't see Clark accepting

a number two position. he is the general after all. A president needs a compliant VP not a general. Better put Clark in charge of his own little fiefdom.

[djg21]

31. Sec. of Defense? Head of the CIA?

He definitely won't settle for the No. 2 spot. If he does, I can see the fireworks between Kerry and Clark during a first term.

[wildwww2]

37. If Clark turns down a VP offer from whoever wins. Then I will be glad

that I never really took him serious as a canidate. If he is called in that capacity to help take back our country from these fascist then he damn well better do it and leave vanity for Bu$h and his gang of usurpers.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[JoFerret]

43. Agreed

...but keep up the Bush attacks. And start getting up to speed with basic democratic ideasa and policy.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

44. He is a soldier, he will do what is needed when the time comes

mark my words.

[leesa]

46. Yeah. war, war, war...same old, same old...I think this puts us back to

the same satus quo we have now. Kerry will never in a million years investigate 9-11 or the other misdeeds of the Bush Crime Family or any of the other criminals. He'll say, "Forget about it".

But, in the end, he's better than Bush, even though the Cabal will not be dismantled.

[Abigail147]

57. Yeah, that is what I am saying too.

Same old. Same old. Yawn.

[calimary]

53. I hope to heaven he DOES stand up to bush.

Because I sure haven't seen much of that before now.

My guy DID, from the get-go (Dean), and that's why he still has my heart. I hope Kerry starts showing some of that fire. He said last night "I have just begun to fight." I hope so. But the track record I've seen so far leaves me in doubt.

I will support him if I have to. It's far more important to beat bush. I will vote for a trash dumpster before I ever throw my vote away on THAT schmuck. I wouldn't vote for bush if he had the pope or the resurrected Mother Theresa as his running mate. And I'm a Catholic.

[pinto]

3. dems and indies made news tonight, record turnout for NH primary...n/t

[JoFerret]

12. That record turnout

is REALLY encouraging. Frigid weather and these people really care to get out and vote the anti-Bush.

[styersc]

17. I think there was also a record turn out in Iowa as well.

This bodes well for the general election.

[JoFerret]

25. Dare we hope... WE WILL

...that there is a wellspring of deep anti Bush out there. No complacency. Those who oppose Bush do so with energy and conviction. Dean doing an excellent job on this in the speech right now. WE WILL

[Zhade]

4. Yay! A fellow Bonesman wins.

So why am I not comfortable with that?

Oh, right. The Bush-enabling.

Sigh. Looks like we're getting a glimpse of who the elite's favorite in this race is.

[Just Me]

21. I understand your discomfort,...

,...I really do. The skulls thing I could throw away,...but, his failure to exercise logic, curiosity and intellectual wherewithall about the Iraq affair,...sticks to my ribcage, big time. He is certainly not my preference because, although I am akin to anyone who is open enough to take in all perspectives,...he is a bit too on the wishy/washy for my taste.

I believe I have finally reached my decision about who I consider the strongest candidate,....Howard Dean. He is stimulating and he has earned my respect (which is given quite frugally) as a solid explorer of pragmatic possibilities for the broad public interest instead of the same ole', same ole' politico "playing" a game that should be expunged. I sincerely believe that the "retaliation" blatantly displayed across multiple frames is the result of his capacity to challenge the "status quo" which is due to change.

Nevertheless, I will support ABB!!!

Congratulations to Kerry supporters.

I do hope the "best" candidate for our country is the next leader who can put a fragmented nation and world back together again.

[JoFerret]

30. Great post Just me

...agreed. ABB all the way. Bring it on.

[shanti]

38. i hear ya!

that's what i'm seeing here too. i'm not comfortable with the skull and bones bs at all!

[calimary]

54. So do I.

I'm just REALLY hesitant. As I said in an earlier post, I HOPE TO GOD AND HIGH HEAVEN that Kerry starts fighting hard. I sure hope he doesn't plan to pull any punches on a fellow Bones brother.

I will support him if I have to. But "have to" is not the same as "want to."

[hang a left]

42. Have to agree with you

I think we are getting a glimpse of the "chosen one" Bush is going down, someone else will finish us off.

[JoFerret]

8. Doing great with the crowd

at the victory speech. he is learning to campaign better. Shorter declarative statements. Honor to Max Cleland. band of brothers. "Bring it on" yells the crowd. Lots of good red meat.

[Whoa_Nelly]

10. What I find unfortunate

is that ROVEr spin has been trying to to its best to decimate Dean, and it seems to be working. Dean has had more bad media whore press than any other candidate, and most just prior to the Iowa caucuses. The WH has shown it has all along considered Dean as the greatest contender. Get ready for for extremely heavy-handed tactics to steal home again...things are in the works, i.e., gerrymandering, holding the sheeple hostage to fear, faith-based initiatives and promises...and there will be more behind the plans played outin scenarios all over this nation in the coming months, The BFEE is counting on conservative white males for the "vote", and to do the dirty work whenever and wherever needed.

[ACPS65]

11. JFK

2004.

[NNN0LHI]

13. It appears that the voters have spoken n/t

[shanti]

39. yeah

IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. the game is FAR from over.

[LostInTheMaise]

16. Is America ready for another JFK in name only

How will the MA hopeful play in the rest of the country? Is ABB strong enough to rule the day?

[styersc]

18. The GOP has only one campaign strategy-

and that is "______________________________ is a liberal socialist who is soft on defense and wants to raise your taxes".

Doesn't matter who we run they will run the same campaign. The country has gotten tired of the one note melody.

[mitchum]

26. They are more than ready!

One critical difference though. Kerry is a liberal who appeals to centrists, while JFK was actually a centrist who appealed to liberals. I'll take the former any day.

[JoFerret]

23. Liked his clear appeal

to veterans. That was not surprising. But I started to hear his pewerful appeal to serving military. If he can absorb and take on what has to be incredible potential and actual discontent in the military then he is the winner. If he can galvanize that...and turn the natural Bush constituency around by honoring their service and talking of the need to focus on their families at home and on education and their economic future. Very powerful

[blm]

27. BINGO.

That IS the winning formula.

[Just Me]

28. DON'T DOUBT THAT ABB ALL THE WAY!!!!

We can accept small steps towards long term benefits,...unlike those "immediate gratification" seekers in office who are willing to sacrifice anyone and the future for their immediate gluttonous endeavors. What they don't accept is something that we, DUers do: not a single one of us get out of this life,...alive; our only value is what we leave behind, and the legacy of "money" has never been the trademark of a remarkable impactful human spirit.

[JoFerret]

19. One nation under g-d

Lieberman bombs. Time to leave Joe. Thanks and all etc

[JoFerret]

24. Dean getting amazing crowd support

.

[JoFerret]

29. Dean - fabulous speech

Fantastic stuff. He is doing extremely well. What a terrific speech. All Americans should hear it. He is battle hardened and at the top of his game.

[JoFerret]

32. Dean gave the most terrific speech

Thanks Dr Dean. Great speech. Set out a new plateau of excellence for the democratic agenda.

[Dhalgren]

47. Congradulations to Dr. Dean

for his showing.
Kerry has worked himself into a very powerful campaign presence. His speeches are getting better and more direct. He seems more "in charge" than I have seen him before, it looks good. Kerry has a very "Presidential" bearing and he has found his voice. Congrdulations to him and his supporters.

[54anickel]

33. I have to admit, I don't know much about Kerry. He was not my first

choice, he was more like 5th. I've looked over his site, still many questions.
Anyone know where he stands on the un-Patriot Act?

[JoFerret]

34. Equivacator

...but ...lol...don't hold that against him.

[54anickel]

35. Huh? Which definition fits that best? Had to look it up just to be sure

Equivocator:
1)To use equivocal language intentionally.
2)To avoid making an explicit statement. See Synonyms at lie2.

Perhaps that's why his site isn't very clear on it.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

41. Kerry believes Patriot Act was a good idea abused by Ashcroft

And John's a lawyer and ex-prosecutor so I think he knows what he's talking about.

"I voted for the Patriot Act right after September 11th – convinced that – with a sunset clause – it was the right decision to make. It clearly wasn’t a perfect bill – and it had a number of flaws – but this wasn’t the time to haggle. It was the time to act.

But George Bush and John Ashcroft abused the spirit of national action after the terrorist attacks. They have used the Patriot Act in ways that were never intended and for reasons that have nothing to do with terrorism. That’s why, as President, I will propose new anti-terrorism laws that advance the War on Terror while ending the assault on our basic rights...."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2003_1201.html

[54anickel]

52. Thanks. I've got some catching up to do.

[yellowcanine]

36. Lieberman may be toast

Where can he win? I don't see it.

[mrdmk]

40. Congrats to Mr. John Kerry

But...

Here is my problem:

If Mr. John Kerry did not vote for the Iraq war I would feel much more comfortable with his nomination. His reasons for voting this seem to be one of political sanctuary than of reason. I feel he fits into the good ole boy of the current Democratic Party.

From the sited news article:

<snip>
"Tonight is another step in the winnowing process," said Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe. He has said no candidate can survive without a victory in Iowa, New Hampshire or one of seven states holding contests Feb. 3.
<snip>

I just hope if Mr. Kerry does win the White House he does not pull a Mr. Bill Clinton and knuckle under to the Republican Party. The Mr. Clinton had lost the House in 1994 with the ineptist of the Democratic Party. One needs to remember that during the Mr. Bush Sr. administration that nothing could be done because of Washington’s “Gridlock”, and so the vote went to the Democrats. The first thing Mr. Clinton did was to stop all investigations of the Mr. Bush Sr. Whitehouse in a gesture to get things moving on. The first thing the Republican House did for Mr. Clinton was to bring up the Gay and Lesbian admission into the Military and made that news for the next three months. The Democrats seemed like they could not do a thing with their majority in Congress and the winning of the Whitehouse. Thus the country started moving to the political right.

If Mr. Howard Dean does win the Whitehouse will he have the control of the Democratic Party? That is a question of organization of power. I have a feeling that the record numbers of voters (which is a good thing) is because these people are not happy with the Mr. Bush Jr. administration and want him gone. If Mr. Howard Dean is elected to the Presidency it does not seem in his nature to let go of the crimes of the Mr. Bush Jr. administration. The reason for the snip of the article above is because Mr. Terry McAuliffe wants Mr. Kerry to win the nomination of the Democrats. Mr. McAuliffe statement is not true because Mr. Bush Jr. and Mr. Clinton both won the election after losing in Iowa and in New Hampshire. This is a control issue.

I just really wonder with Mr. Kerry we will have the same destructive crap coming out of Whitehouse we have had over the past decades or will we have some constructive reformation which we have not seen in a long time!

[llmart]

45. Does anyone here know

how many Repugs might have voted for Kerry? I'm wondering if Kerry isn't who the Repugs want * to run against, instead of Dean, who doesn't represent the Democratic establishment. If that's the case, then it's Dean they're really afraid of.

[Dhalgren]

48. Oh My God! LOL!

You cannot be serious! Kerry winning is a republican conspiracy? Man, that rebuplican Mind-Control thing is powerful!

[NNN0LHI]

50. I am sure the Repugs want their AWOL drunk/dug addict going up against...

...a decorated Vietnam war hero. That is funny. Got any more?

Don

[NewYorkerfromMass]

51. Read thru this FreeRepublic thread for an idea

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1066285/posts

From what I can see they were rooting for Dean.

[GinaMaria]

56. The GOP's best bet would be Lieberman

If poll results can be trusted. He's least likely to beat *. Therefore I would think that the current admin would want Lieberman. Just a thought.

I think Kerry could do some damage to *. Dean is not out of this by far. He has quite a bit of money and loyal supporters in every state. Dean could be in this to the end. Clark may have a strong hold in the south. We will soon see. As with Edwards. We have an abundance of viable candidates. It's still anybody's game. It's amazing to watch.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

49. What State's next?

I feel like I'm watching a F1 season or something.

[truthspeaker]

55. congrats to Senator Kerry and his supporters

He is sounding better these days. He still hasn't figured out that Iraq was a fiasco from the get-go, or else he thinks such a stance is so "contraversial" that it will alienate voters; either view is bad in my book. Most of what I like about Kerry was what he was doing 30+ years ago.

BUT IMHO his military credentials will be convincing for swing voters.

Dean's still my man, but I could certainly live with Kerry.

And most importantly, ANYONE BUT BUSH!